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November 14, 2016, 03:59:38 PM
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California leaving the Union has little to no chance of happening. The state is one of the most liberal in the entire country, and it isn't surprising that many residents want to leave the United States after Trump was elected. While many are calling for California to secede, there is a process for it to happen, with a two-thirds approval majority needed from both the House and the Senate. If you remember, Texas also called for secession during President Obama's re-election but nothing came of it.

As Trump supports and understand Federalism (ex: abortion) I don't see the point of it.

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November 14, 2016, 04:01:03 PM
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I really doubt that California will secede from the United States of America. Rather, they will seek the impeachment of trump after the first error.

I don't think that Trump can be impeached with ease. Right now, there is a Republican majority in both the Senate and the House. Impeachment is possible only if a large number of RINOs side with the Democrats. And any chance of that seems extremely remote.

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November 14, 2016, 04:03:36 PM
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California leaving the Union has little to no chance of happening. The state is one of the most liberal in the entire country, and it isn't surprising that many residents want to leave the United States after Trump was elected. While many are calling for California to secede, there is a process for it to happen, with a two-thirds approval majority needed from both the House and the Senate. If you remember, Texas also called for secession during President Obama's re-election but nothing came of it.

As Trump supports and understand Federalism (ex: abortion) I don't see the point of it.
I don't think America is threatened federalization. I am confident that with the elections is something not clear. Very suspicious looks of the victory of the clown.
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November 14, 2016, 06:30:05 PM
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California leaving the Union has little to no chance of happening. The state is one of the most liberal in the entire country, and it isn't surprising that many residents want to leave the United States after Trump was elected. While many are calling for California to secede, there is a process for it to happen, with a two-thirds approval majority needed from both the House and the Senate. If you remember, Texas also called for secession during President Obama's re-election but nothing came of it.

As Trump supports and understand Federalism (ex: abortion) I don't see the point of it.
I don't think America is threatened federalization. I am confident that with the elections is something not clear. Very suspicious looks of the victory of the clown.

federalization is not favorable to the government. no matter who is president. All possible measures will be taken Therefore, in order to avoid this threat
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November 15, 2016, 11:52:20 PM
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California leaving the Union has little to no chance of happening. The state is one of the most liberal in the entire country, and it isn't surprising that many residents want to leave the United States after Trump was elected. While many are calling for California to secede, there is a process for it to happen, with a two-thirds approval majority needed from both the House and the Senate. If you remember, Texas also called for secession during President Obama's re-election but nothing came of it.

It will have 100% chance of happening if someone pays off Cali's debts (preferably via bitcoin). The new #Calexit domain name is live at caindependence [dot] me [dot] pn Support Cali with your heart!!!
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November 15, 2016, 11:59:26 PM
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Might have a better chance if they agree to divide CA into smaller states within CA. Maybe call it the Californian States of America. After all the CSA did so well breaking off before.  Tongue


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November 16, 2016, 04:16:48 AM
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The California Republic will quit the US dollar system and switch to Bitcoins.

Isn't Potcoin a better option for them if they succeed to exit? If it really they can get out, I wouldn't be surprise if there will be a calicoin later or calexitcoin. Thier independence and switching to btc would be good for crypto economy. Smiley









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November 16, 2016, 07:17:56 AM
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I really doubt that California will secede from the United States of America. Rather, they will seek the impeachment of trump after the first error.

I don't think that Trump can be impeached with ease. Right now, there is a Republican majority in both the Senate and the House. Impeachment is possible only if a large number of RINOs side with the Democrats. And any chance of that seems extremely remote.

To me Trump is a time bomb, so that can change overnight. At the moment, he is clearly overwhelmed with what happened. But let's just wait till he fully settles in.
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November 16, 2016, 07:51:14 AM
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The California Republic will quit the US dollar system and switch to Bitcoins.

Isn't Potcoin a better option for them if they succeed to exit? If it really they can get out, I wouldn't be surprise if there will be a calicoin later or calexitcoin. Thier independence and switching to btc would be good for crypto economy. Smiley

That's absolutely on our agenda. Calcoin will be built on a bitcoin standard monetary system!
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November 16, 2016, 08:26:20 AM
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The California Republic will quit the US dollar system and switch to Bitcoins.

Isn't Potcoin a better option for them if they succeed to exit? If it really they can get out, I wouldn't be surprise if there will be a calicoin later or calexitcoin. Thier independence and switching to btc would be good for crypto economy. Smiley

That's absolutely on our agenda. Calcoin will be built on a bitcoin standard monetary system!

That what you mean?) Is never going to happen. The government does not allow it. This incurs losses to the state. After all, if it will make one part of the country, then others will follow.
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The California Republic will quit the US dollar system and switch to Bitcoins.

Isn't Potcoin a better option for them if they succeed to exit? If it really they can get out, I wouldn't be surprise if there will be a calicoin later or calexitcoin. Thier independence and switching to btc would be good for crypto economy. Smiley

That's absolutely on our agenda. Calcoin will be built on a bitcoin standard monetary system!

That what you mean?) Is never going to happen. The government does not allow it. This incurs losses to the state. After all, if it will make one part of the country, then others will follow.

If Bitcoin has the same functionality as gold does, then it would be natural to derive Bitcoin standard from gold standard. The government will not allow circulation of Bitcoins, rather, it issues Calcoin which trust is backed by the Bitcoin balance of the government. The mining cost is the counterpart of storage cost for gold.
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November 17, 2016, 12:16:10 AM
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So CA would not accept USD anymore that it accepts Yen or Pesos now. My guess is CalCoin or whatever will not have an immutable blockchain that takes too much power out of government hands

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November 17, 2016, 12:38:25 AM
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I'm all for it. Hopefully they can get the votes in Washington to get it done. Can you even imagine if that happened? All the liberals would flock from virtually every major city to their new homeland. They can finally have their own government, etc.

FINALLY, the liberals would have their imaginary Utopia.

The rest of the country would immediately turn into all red states, and hopefully not long after that, "the big one" will hit and Cali will fall off into the damn ocean and we can watch all the rats drown in one epic moment of "win."
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November 17, 2016, 01:12:28 AM
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November 17, 2016, 02:35:51 AM
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I hope this effort is successful.  The morally, ethically, financially bankrupt federal government is out of control.  If CA manages to leave then I hope it opens doors for TX to leave.  Let CA convinces WA and OR to go with them.  Then let TX take all of those red flyover states down the center of the country.  Leaving the eastern sea board to drown in DC corruption and filth.  We would all be better off.  People would get what they wanted without forcing everyone to live with one size fits everything.  The do it our way or else has to come to an end.  States should have rights, but don't.  People have a voice but it isn't heard.  The goal is one world government with total corporate/banker/elite control of everything.  It is time to put an end to the madness.

I disagree with just about everything posted in the OP first post, but CA leaving the union I am all for it.  For completely different reasons than the OP, but I whole heartedly support your effort.  It will mean greater freedom, equality, and justice for all if states take back their rights.  If that means leaving the union then so be it. 

To me this has nothing to do with Trump.  Trump is owned by the same monsters that own Obama, and owned Bush, owned Clinton yada yada yada... They have their own agenda that has nothing to do with you or me.  They are after control of the whole world and to do the bidding of their masters.  The sooner people start to understand the forces at play and who the puppets really are then maybe you will have taken the pill that wakes you up from the Matrix.  I think some people out here in cryto get that, but I still think it is a minority.

So rock on, mobilize the grass roots, and lets get this CAEXIT rolling!  BTW, I don't know what you will do for water, but we will continue to sell it to you as long as you want to a good trading partner.  Smiley
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November 17, 2016, 03:11:02 AM
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The California Republic will quit the US dollar system and switch to Bitcoins.

LOL. No.

These two things (California government and Bitcoin) do not mix.

I wish you guys all the best though. The smaller and more local the government, the better it can represent the desires of the people.

If if doesn't work out, the entire population of California can just move to Canada and I can finally surf the west coast!

Bitcoin and government. That's a new thing  that we have never seen. Could it be reality?
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November 17, 2016, 06:09:59 AM
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The California Republic will quit the US dollar system and switch to Bitcoins.

LOL. No.

These two things (California government and Bitcoin) do not mix.

I wish you guys all the best though. The smaller and more local the government, the better it can represent the desires of the people.

If if doesn't work out, the entire population of California can just move to Canada and I can finally surf the west coast!

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November 17, 2016, 12:58:47 PM
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The California Republic will quit the US dollar system and switch to Bitcoins.

LOL. No.

These two things (California government and Bitcoin) do not mix.

I wish you guys all the best though. The smaller and more local the government, the better it can represent the desires of the people.

If if doesn't work out, the entire population of California can just move to Canada and I can finally surf the west coast!

Bitcoin and government. That's a new thing  that we have never seen. Could it be reality?
Yes!
actually
Bitcoin will BE the government soon.
look at the current elections going on in bitcoin land Core Vs the_other_guys
what we have is true democracy, a living breathing system of governance.

thats the future my friend

Bravo! Demise is the eventual fate of every totalitarianism! Now it's time to bring Calcoin into reality. We have created the official website and please share this link with everyone who loves freedom http://caindependence.me.pn/
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Whoever said that Jerry Brown and his manipulative totalitarian ilk and Bitcoin don't mix is dead on.  These people have a plan for you and it certainly doesn't include individual expressions of economic freedom.  I fear that the same will be able to be said about Donald J. Trump as well though Sad  Hope to be wrong about this.

As for CA's Independence, as someone who has spent considerable time in both CA (where I was a migrant laborer in the tech sector) and the more rural areas of the states to the North, I think this is a great idea.  There is one major pre-requisite though.  Build a wall FIRST.  Before CA turns into the next Venezuela, and that won't take very long.

Another issue is that there is something of a natural wall formed by a mountain range, but the trouble with this is that the folks in Northern CA don't really deserve the hell brought on them from those in the more South and central population centers.  I'm sure they would agree, and they would be a welcome addition to a more functional grouping once the South-Central cultists have cut themselves free.

Yet another issue is that there are plenty of CA-strain viruses which have taken hold here in the otherwise nice areas of Oregon, and a related strain which has completely infected the Portland area.  This is particularly unfortunate due to our demographics.  It would be great if we could sneeze a lot of these types either down South to CA from whence they came, or up North to the Seattle area which I don't give two shits about before the separation.


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