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June 15, 2011, 04:38:41 AM
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What about Captcha to combat the trolls, at least give them some headache.


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June 15, 2011, 04:41:59 AM
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Everything you write makes the case to keep noobs in the playpen stronger. Hell, I wouldn't even trust ME if I were an old-timer. That Black Friday crash was a coordinated attack and the trolls scared many people out of their money.  We needed a correction, but that stampede was stared deliberately.

We are better off if people stupid enough to lose money based on thoughtless newbie rants lose their money. All the money that was 'lost' was simply transferred to smarter hands.

By the way, I am honored that you are such a dedicated follower of my posts to have had read them all. Thank you.

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June 15, 2011, 04:45:36 AM
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What about Captcha to combat the trolls, at least give them some headache.

presumably, anyone smart enough to be able to make sentences that can scare people out of their money, is able to crack even the trickiest of captchas.
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June 15, 2011, 05:11:12 AM
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This is certainly not the best solution, and I never intended it to be permanent. I have a long-term solution in mind: A new jr. moderator position is added with no moderation ability over established posters. Newbies can post freely, but their posts are subject to more strict moderation by the many jr. moderators. All newbie posts are additionally available on a single page for review by all members for moderation/reporting.

The reporting system also needs to be enhanced, and moderation needs to be made easier.

This requires extensive modifications to SMF, so we'll have to make do with the "newbies" section until I get time to code it or someone contributes the code. I think the section has been pretty successful in containing trolling, spamming, and repeat questions: the only downside is that it is annoying and drives away potential contributors.

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June 15, 2011, 12:06:46 PM
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We are better off if people stupid enough to lose money based on thoughtless newbie rants lose their money. All the money that was 'lost' was simply transferred to smarter hands.

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June 15, 2011, 02:27:16 PM
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This is certainly not the best solution, and I never intended it to be permanent. I have a long-term solution in mind: A new jr. moderator position is added with no moderation ability over established posters. Newbies can post freely, but their posts are subject to more strict moderation by the many jr. moderators. All newbie posts are additionally available on a single page for review by all members for moderation/reporting.

The reporting system also needs to be enhanced, and moderation needs to be made easier.

This requires extensive modifications to SMF, so we'll have to make do with the "newbies" section until I get time to code it or someone contributes the code. I think the section has been pretty successful in containing trolling, spamming, and repeat questions: the only downside is that it is annoying and drives away potential contributors.

I've never been annoyed by newbie posts. I'd much rather ignore the occasional display of ignorance than create an elitist/unwelcoming atmosphere.

Personally, I read a ton about bitcoin before I ever posted even one comment. I think that is probably the more common scenario.

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June 16, 2011, 07:13:04 PM
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Everything you write makes the case to keep noobs in the playpen stronger. Hell, I wouldn't even trust ME if I were an old-timer. That Black Friday crash was a coordinated attack and the trolls scared many people out of their money.  We needed a correction, but that stampede was stared deliberately.

We are better off if people stupid enough to lose money based on thoughtless newbie rants lose their money. All the money that was 'lost' was simply transferred to smarter hands.

By the way, I am honored that you are such a dedicated follower of my posts to have had read them all. Thank you.

Don't worry, I'm not expecting you to reply  Cheesy

I didn't sell a single BTC, but the value of my stash dropped over 30% from the highs. Not all the rants were thoughtless. They were targeted misinformation. Scaring players and dollars out of the Bitcoin economy isn't good for the Bitcoin economy, is it?

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June 16, 2011, 09:41:31 PM
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Everything you write makes the case to keep noobs in the playpen stronger. Hell, I wouldn't even trust ME if I were an old-timer. That Black Friday crash was a coordinated attack and the trolls scared many people out of their money.  We needed a correction, but that stampede was stared deliberately.

We are better off if people stupid enough to lose money based on thoughtless newbie rants lose their money. All the money that was 'lost' was simply transferred to smarter hands.

By the way, I am honored that you are such a dedicated follower of my posts to have had read them all. Thank you.

Don't worry, I'm not expecting you to reply  Cheesy

I didn't sell a single BTC, but the value of my stash dropped over 30% from the highs. Not all the rants were thoughtless. They were targeted misinformation. Scaring players and dollars out of the Bitcoin economy isn't good for the Bitcoin economy, is it?

If you had been smarter with your bitcoins you would have recognized a pattern occuring and you have sold high, bought low, not sat idly by and watched others do so while you lost value. Luckily, father logic was here to punish the fools and reward the clever so that uncle progress could get on with his work.
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