Looking like the ZEC party is over

[indika]

when the zec slow mining start,any time frame or block number

[antantti]

ZEC value has risen almost 50% in the past 24 hours, see, someone is definitely backing it up, and it is most likely the founder burning some of his big 20% founder's fee.

Good for us anyways, I mean, the miners.

Yep, someone is burning btc running aggressive buyingbot, need to look green against btc. Quite boring to watch when there are no shorts to squeeze, but good for miners as you said. How much ammo that bot has remains to be seen.

[Amph]

well the profit is always the same, the diff is catching up quickly, actually worst just now, and by looking at the daily supply cap it's very difficult to even reach 0.1 per zec

[antantti]

Without this bot average mining gpu would be under $1/ day revenue, enjoy it while you can.

OT: look at eth charts, someone wants cheaper eth 

[sanas]

when the zec slow mining start,any time frame or block number

Slow start has ended. Thet was from 28 October to 2 December. Now it goes with full reward 12.5 ZEC for block.

[philipma1957]

Without this bot average mining gpu would be under $1/ day revenue, enjoy it while you can.

OT: look at eth charts, someone wants cheaper eth 

There will be more bots this will occur time and time again until the bots cost to much to do.

I estimate this coin to stand or be propped up as long as cap is lower then 35 million.

Since cap is around 15 mill we should be good for 50-65 days of buy bots.

[Raja_MBZ]

ZEC value has risen almost 50% in the past 24 hours, see, someone is definitely backing it up, and it is most likely the founder burning some of his big 20% founder's fee.

Good for us anyways, I mean, the miners.

until now, zcash is swing back to go up in poloniex market and ready to go up, i hope its a good news for us as i have zcash in my wallet and ready to sell it   but i wonder, can zcash go up until 0.1 btc in new year?

look at these ratios

http://coinmarketcap.com/


 gear mining btc    2,380,716,564 GH/s that is 183,000 s9's and that is 274,500,000 usd  plus psu's

cap is 14,582,607,308 usd so 18.82%

gear mining eth

5976 gh  that is 200,000 rx 480's and that is 42,000,000 usd


cap is 631,622,906 usd    so 6.65%  




gear mining zec  

55 mh  is 275,000 rx 480s say  57,750,000 usd

cap is 15,392,931 usd   so 375.17%


So gear value to cap value ratios

BTC    18.82%
ETH      6.65%
ZEC  375.17%

DO THESE HAVE MEANING?

if they do  zec    will soar in value

or  BTC and ETH will crash in value.

LOOK AT THIS LIST:

cpu
AMD
INTEL

gpus
GIGABYTE
MSI
ASUS
SAPPHIRE
XFX
VISIONTEK
POWERCOLOR


psus
CORSAIR
EVGA
SEASONIC
COOLER MASTER
ROSEWILL
THERMALTAKE
SILVERSTONE
ANTEC

mobos
ASUS
GIGABYTE
MSI
ASROCK
EVGA
SUPERMICRO
FOXCONN

ram
G.SKILL
CORSAIR
CRUCIAL
HYPERX
GEIL

ssds
SAMSUNG
CRUCIAL
INTEL
SANDISK
ADATA
OCZ


hdds
WESTERN DIGITAL
SEAGATE
HGST
TOSHIBA

pcs
DELL
LENOVO
HP

switches
Dlink
Trendnet
Netgear
TP-Link


all of the above companies have skin in the game.  they all can send money in on zec at exchanges as advertising expense.

I own

35 gpus
12 mobos
12 cpus
12 psus
3 switches
12 ssds and or hdds
16 sticks of ram

why is that zec is at a good price that owning all of the above makes sense.

and with the market cap at only 15 million  this should last for a while.

Yup, that can be a case too. Even if only one of those big companies want to pump ZEC, they can do it with ease. It seems like we are going to get time-to-time pumps to ZEC.

[PanneKopp]

... some Miners with low E-Prices might still be in ROI,
but I do not think,
all of the 8732.3171 kSol/s running at nicehash 4 BTC
are really °°°.

Looks like a big bubble.


  PanneKopp

P.S. some "Mining-Rig-Investors" will cry

[philipma1957]

... some Miners with low E-Prices might still be in ROI,
but I do not think,
all of the 8732.3171 kSol/s running at nicehash 4 BTC
are really °°°.

Looks like a big bubble.


  PanneKopp

P.S. some "Mining-Rig-Investors" will cry

why do you see a bubble  and I see an opportunity?

market cap of 15 million makes pump cheap .

and the list of companies above  that stand to make a lot more sales if this coin sticks around is a long list of big money companies.

You do realize that a  10 million usd  pump put in by AMD  would jack coin price from .052 to .111 easy

and if 2 or 3 of the companies above all decide to do a pump  coin can go to 0.3 or 0.5 no problem.


Look for a big pump when AMD releases the rx 490 and rx 490x

[QuintLeo]

look at these ratios

http://coinmarketcap.com/


 gear mining btc    2,380,716,564 GH/s that is 183,000 s9's and that is 274,500,000 usd  plus psu's

cap is 14,582,607,308 usd so 18.82%

gear mining eth

5976 gh  that is 200,000 rx 480's and that is 42,000,000 usd


cap is 631,622,906 usd    so 6.65%  




gear mining zec  

55 mh  is 275,000 rx 480s say  57,750,000 usd

cap is 15,392,931 usd   so 375.17%


So gear value to cap value ratios

BTC    18.82%
ETH      6.65%
ZEC  375.17%

DO THESE HAVE MEANING?

if they do  zec    will soar in value

or  BTC and ETH will crash in value.

LOOK AT THIS LIST:

gpu
AMD

 Which is probably the ONLY member of that list that mining has ever caused a measurable "sales blip" for.

 Keep in mind though - of every "AMD GPU" that is sold, AMD themselves likely realise at most 20% and more likely 10-15% of the final retail sale price on.

 It would take MANY tens of milliions in "additional sales" to miners to pay AMD back for a $10 million price intervention like like has been suggested.

 Keep in mind that the very very limited number of chip making facilities that CAN make the GPUs for the current generation cards have been BACKLOGGED the entire time they've had any production at all, which puts a severe limit on how many "additional" cards IF ANY are capable of being sold.

 Some folks wonder why BitMain keeps "selling out" so often on the various S9 batches.
 I am 100% CERTAIN the reason is that they can't get the CHIPS on a reliable basis to keep up with demand for the SAME REASON.


 If ZEC had gone live 2 years ago, or 1-2 years from now, it might make SOME sense for AMD to pump the market - right now, it makes pretty much zero sense.

[isamamin]

i think all those COINS controlled by : Miner's Maker, Exchanges, Investors, Renters etc....
so hard to get the correct status and stat...
 

[philipma1957]

look at these ratios

http://coinmarketcap.com/


 gear mining btc    2,380,716,564 GH/s that is 183,000 s9's and that is 274,500,000 usd  plus psu's

cap is 14,582,607,308 usd so 18.82%

gear mining eth

5976 gh  that is 200,000 rx 480's and that is 42,000,000 usd


cap is 631,622,906 usd    so 6.65%  




gear mining zec  

55 mh  is 275,000 rx 480s say  57,750,000 usd

cap is 15,392,931 usd   so 375.17%


So gear value to cap value ratios

BTC    18.82%
ETH      6.65%
ZEC  375.17%

DO THESE HAVE MEANING?

if they do  zec    will soar in value

or  BTC and ETH will crash in value.

LOOK AT THIS LIST:

gpu
AMD

 Which is probably the ONLY member of that list that mining has ever caused a measurable "sales blip" for.

 Keep in mind though - of every "AMD GPU" that is sold, AMD themselves likely realise at most 20% and more likely 10-15% of the final retail sale price on.

 It would take MANY tens of milliions in "additional sales" to miners to pay AMD back for a $10 million price intervention like like has been suggested.

 Keep in mind that the very very limited number of chip making facilities that CAN make the GPUs for the current generation cards have been BACKLOGGED the entire time they've had any production at all, which puts a severe limit on how many "additional" cards IF ANY are capable of being sold.

 Some folks wonder why BitMain keeps "selling out" so often on the various S9 batches.
 I am 100% CERTAIN the reason is that they can't get the CHIPS on a reliable basis to keep up with demand for the SAME REASON.


 If ZEC had gone live 2 years ago, or 1-2 years from now, it might make SOME sense for AMD to pump the market - right now, it makes pretty much zero sense.

exactly  which is why the pumps are not 10 million when they come.

You realize the pump that just past had 2,000,000  usd in action on pump day.

if you have 4 accounts on a major exchange  and use:

 a to sell to b
to sell to c
to sell to d
to sell to a
to sell to b
to sell to c
to sell to d

and boom a pump at  a lower cost then 2,000,000 

This will not end  for quite a while.  Why is that  simple the market cap is low and it is cheap to do so.