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November 28, 2016, 05:30:38 PM
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I was actually thinking of that since I saw the price changes. The swing is more or less than $40. And it always happen when the price hit more or less than $750 and goes down again by $30-40 and goes up again.n Large swing for me and it happen often.

When a market is small the one with more coins can manipulate the price, that's what happen to bitcoin way back 2013, and now that the market is huge, this one manipulator now form a group to make impact in the market and keep on manipulating the price.  Rather than being sour about it, just ride the wave, you will profit from it for sure.
I think right we can not say that the price is increase because of manipulation i think it is not and i think many company right now are investing in bitcoin since they are seen about bitcoin starting from 2014 until now that bitcoin is growing normally.. they are seen the benefits of bitcoin.
See steam they are now accepting bitcoin and other online stores some of them are accepting bitcoin unlike before.. because they know the price of bitcoin will increase more everytime the population is growing and more investors will come and more stores can accept bitcoin as payment that can support our bitcoin for more users to come.
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November 28, 2016, 05:59:27 PM
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I don't think you understand how pricing works. If someone dumps a large amount at one exchange, the price at that exchange will go diem and the others will not immediately change. That's not manipulation. That's selling btc.
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December 01, 2016, 07:46:26 PM
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I think you have to ignore any price rise or fall of less than 10%. This is Bitcoin, it goes up it goes down. Long term trend is currently 6% up per month but this could change at anytime to 20% up or down per month. Unless I see a 10%+ movement per day or a 20% movement in the week I am not interested, and no one else should be unless you are day trading - in which case 90% of you will probably be better off just HOLDING the other 10% will be making good money from it.

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December 01, 2016, 09:37:53 PM
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Day-trading bitcoin seems to yield more profit than holding it for a long time.
The little daily profits have a way of adding up fast Grin

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December 01, 2016, 10:18:28 PM
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I don't think you understand how pricing works. If someone dumps a large amount at one exchange, the price at that exchange will go diem and the others will not immediately change. That's not manipulation. That's selling btc.

You have a point that this is just a product of some dumpers on exchanged. But according to OP. The big drop is happened in a flash and it is not some kind of typical dump on exchange. Notice the unpredictable price increase/decrease. But for me this just a normal event. No manipulation involves.

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December 21, 2016, 02:20:32 PM
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Day-trading bitcoin seems to yield more profit than holding it for a long time.
The little daily profits have a way of adding up fast Grin

The daily profits add up until the day you miss something and you get burned big time.
Day trading is a very good business, but it's a very risky one. Some love it, some hate it.
Many think of it as the ultimate method to get rich and jump into it without enough knowledge. *sigh*

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December 21, 2016, 02:23:37 PM
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yeah. we only hear day traders crowing about their successes. it's gambling pure and simple and if you throw in leverage it's degenerate gambling.
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December 21, 2016, 02:33:08 PM
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yeah. we only hear day traders crowing about their successes. it's gambling pure and simple and if you throw in leverage it's degenerate gambling.
It depends on how you look at it. Right now there is some sort of panic buying going through the market, but as soon as that is cooling down, then there will be the expected ups and downs.

That's what day traders and other regular traders are anticipating on. I am not really a trader myself, but I am glad I am seeing the value of my coins go up.

It's fantastic to see that that all my efforts of collecting as many coins as possible below the $400 levels is paying off big time.

But I must admit that I secured some profits at $810 as it was a perfect timing. Right now my average profits are at least sitting at a level of 120%.

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December 21, 2016, 07:47:40 PM
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I don't think you understand how pricing works. If someone dumps a large amount at one exchange, the price at that exchange will go diem and the others will not immediately change. That's not manipulation. That's selling btc.

That is right. I do not see much manipulation.

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December 21, 2016, 10:09:10 PM
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Day-trading bitcoin seems to yield more profit than holding it for a long time.
The little daily profits have a way of adding up fast Grin

The daily profits add up until the day you miss something and you get burned big time.
Day trading is a very good business, but it's a very risky one. Some love it, some hate it.
Many think of it as the ultimate method to get rich and jump into it without enough knowledge. *sigh*
yep, it depends on how good your stomach it. I don't recommend it, but there are people who love it and can't imagine trading the other way.
A good training is a must to start day-trading, though.

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December 22, 2016, 12:15:04 AM
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I don't think you understand how pricing works. If someone dumps a large amount at one exchange, the price at that exchange will go diem and the others will not immediately change. That's not manipulation. That's selling btc.
I think that nobody can manipulate the price for bitcoin. Bitcoin depends only from demand on bitcoin. When people will start to sell bitcoins the price will go down and when will be more buyers the price will rise. That's traditional law of the economy.
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December 23, 2016, 03:27:08 AM
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I don't think you understand how pricing works. If someone dumps a large amount at one exchange, the price at that exchange will go diem and the others will not immediately change. That's not manipulation. That's selling btc.
I think that nobody can manipulate the price for bitcoin. Bitcoin depends only from demand on bitcoin. When people will start to sell bitcoins the price will go down and when will be more buyers the price will rise. That's traditional law of the economy.
Well, I do not know, maybe someone could actually manipulate the price of bitcoin. we do not know who is playing in the background. may be they are the most bitcoin holders, or hacker. we never knew it. but I am sure, the current price rise occurred because of something that is normal and natural. Well, the price increase usually occurs at the end of the year, right?

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