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November 26, 2016, 08:53:35 AM
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Here is the story: My dad just found out that I am storing bitcoin and he try to prevent me from using this crypto. This is absolutely the worst situation I have ever had since I started used Bitcoin. I am living in the country which bad guys abuse Bitcoin for illegal activities. Therefore, most of the people here who do not have a proper knowledge about bitcoin believe bitcoin as a stupid, dummy coin or even MLM. My dad is one of them. Any solution to solve this problem ? It is quite hard though because I am still a teenager so it is extremely difficult to persuade him
Thanks in advance
If you have explained about bitcoins by your self and your dad still don't understand or believe it, you can try explaining about bitcoins with other ways is like videos for example. You can looking for the videos on YouTube that explaining about it, this way will be more education in my opinion. Good luck
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November 26, 2016, 08:57:32 AM
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It is kinda hard to convince older generation because they think that they know more than us. It will take alot of effort to convince them and it is better just make him believe that you follow what he told you about what he wanted you to do with bitcoin just to feed his ego.  Then after sometime show him positive articles about bitcoin and how it is used in a legal way.
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November 26, 2016, 09:00:54 AM
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Here is the story: My dad just found out that I am storing bitcoin and he try to prevent me from using this crypto. This is absolutely the worst situation I have ever had since I started used Bitcoin. I am living in the country which bad guys abuse Bitcoin for illegal activities. Therefore, most of the people here who do not have a proper knowledge about bitcoin believe bitcoin as a stupid, dummy coin or even MLM. My dad is one of them. Any solution to solve this problem ? It is quite hard though because I am still a teenager so it is extremely difficult to persuade him
Thanks in advance

This looks very insane. You as a teenager can store your bitcoins without letting your father to know about it. I believe you were earning and storing your bitcoin, not converting your fiat earning from day job to bitcoin.

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November 26, 2016, 09:09:09 AM
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because bad image from the previous users makes your father doesn't believe that bitcoin is good for you and basically he has love you and he do not want you in trouble because became an bitcoiners and i think good article would not makes him automatically believe that you would not be in trouble because using bitcoin to ensure your father accept bitcoin in his life first of all you must proof by yourself that you will never became a bad guy or abusing bitcoin or maybe for now you could buy present for him what he likes
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November 26, 2016, 09:13:12 AM
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Here is the story: My dad just found out that I am storing bitcoin and he try to prevent me from using this crypto. This is absolutely the worst situation I have ever had since I started used Bitcoin. I am living in the country which bad guys abuse Bitcoin for illegal activities. Therefore, most of the people here who do not have a proper knowledge about bitcoin believe bitcoin as a stupid, dummy coin or even MLM. My dad is one of them. Any solution to solve this problem ? It is quite hard though because I am still a teenager so it is extremely difficult to persuade him
Thanks in advance

This looks very insane. You as a teenager can store your bitcoins without letting your father to know about it. I believe you were earning and storing your bitcoin, not converting your fiat earning from day job to bitcoin.
I agree. Why and how he came to know your storing bitcoins. I have been storing bitcoins myself for the last few years but noone in my family knew about it unless I told them. And the country you live in can't be as much bitcoin illiterate as is mine.

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November 26, 2016, 10:25:06 AM
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some people are like this, i have encountered a couple of them in my life too. they resist any kind of change and anything that looks new in their lives and this is not limited to bitcoin.

don't worry too much because this is not just about bitcoin most of the times. but you can keep on trying.

for example how about setting up a bitcoin wallet for him and showing him how he can use bitcoin or at least have some as an investment to make profit in the future. show him some price charts and you can even give him some bitcoin what you can afford like 0.1-0.5BTC as an investment.

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November 26, 2016, 10:31:30 AM
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I agree. Why and how he came to know your storing bitcoins. I have been storing bitcoins myself for the last few years but noone in my family knew about it unless I told them. And the country you live in can't be as much bitcoin illiterate as is mine.
Well If he didn't really tried to hide his coins then his dad could have seen it on the mobile phone or on another screen...  Smiley

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Any solution to solve this problem ?

Personally I would solve it by showing him a few news links and the bitcoin-wiki introduction page:  Wink

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November 26, 2016, 10:35:17 AM
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Here is the story: My dad just found out that I am storing bitcoin and he try to prevent me from using this crypto. This is absolutely the worst situation I have ever had since I started used Bitcoin. I am living in the country which bad guys abuse Bitcoin for illegal activities. Therefore, most of the people here who do not have a proper knowledge about bitcoin believe bitcoin as a stupid, dummy coin or even MLM. My dad is one of them. Any solution to solve this problem ? It is quite hard though because I am still a teenager so it is extremely difficult to persuade him
Thanks in advance
I think your dad has a lots of misconceptions about bitcoin and therefore he is worried for you.More so because it is illegal in your country.
You must direct your dad to some good article about bitcoin where and tell him that bitcoin is not something exclusively used by criminals.Bitcoin is also used for many good causes also like explained here https://news.bitcoin.com/using-bitcoin-for-charitable-causes/

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November 26, 2016, 10:42:16 AM
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Here is the story: My dad just found out that I am storing bitcoin and he try to prevent me from using this crypto. This is absolutely the worst situation I have ever had since I started used Bitcoin. I am living in the country which bad guys abuse Bitcoin for illegal activities. Therefore, most of the people here who do not have a proper knowledge about bitcoin believe bitcoin as a stupid, dummy coin or even MLM. My dad is one of them. Any solution to solve this problem ? It is quite hard though because I am still a teenager so it is extremely difficult to persuade him
Thanks in advance

It will be difficult to convince older man to accepting bitcoin and seems like your dad more believe to the news rather than you, it is reasonable that your father forbid you to used bitcoin because he afraid you will used it for bad and illegal things, for your case i suggest to find a correct time and try to explained to your dad that bitcoin can be used for good deeds, you can tell him that everything can be used for bad and good things, it depends on how you used it, a knife can be used for cooking and can be used for killing it depends on the user, if your father still not accepted it, then you can secretly keep your bitcoin, as long as you don't used it for bad things i think it will be okay


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November 26, 2016, 02:39:57 PM
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I am living in the country which bad guys abuse Bitcoin for illegal activities.
Actually not only in your country and not only bitcoin, those bad guys are also using other methods like bank transfer, remittance, paper cash for illegal activities all around the world. So nobody should blame bitcoin for being used by bad guys for illegal activities.

Therefore, most of the people here who do not have a proper knowledge about bitcoin believe bitcoin as a stupid, dummy coin or even MLM.
If they don't have proper knowledge (including your dad) you need to educate them about what actually is bitcoin. I don't know how people near you is calling bitcoin as MLM, there is nothing like referral commission.

Any solution to solve this problem ? It is quite hard though because I am still a teenager so it is extremely difficult to persuade him
Actually your dad should understand that teenager like you know better about new tech rather than him and i think he is worried about you getting scammed by some MLM program, scam projects because he don't know what actually is bitcoin. You have to put some time to tell him about bitcoin reality and how this is not some shit coin, scam or MLM. Good luck

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November 26, 2016, 05:20:45 PM
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I am living in the country which bad guys abuse Bitcoin for illegal activities.
Actually not only in your country and not only bitcoin, those bad guys are also using other methods like bank transfer, remittance, paper cash for illegal activities all around the world. So nobody should blame bitcoin for being used by bad guys for illegal activities.

I know that in other places, many illegal organizations currently abuse Bitcoin to steal people money, to obtain Bitcoin in the most shameful way. However, in developing countries, the number of bitcoin-related criminal cases is very small, compared to the advantages which it brings to people here. My country can be recognized as a third world country where bitcoin is usually used by bad people.  And when you search "bitcoin" on the news, the majority of articles is about criminals derive money from Bitcoin.
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November 26, 2016, 05:27:50 PM
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Here is the story: My dad just found out that I am storing bitcoin and he try to prevent me from using this crypto. This is absolutely the worst situation I have ever had since I started used Bitcoin. I am living in the country which bad guys abuse Bitcoin for illegal activities. Therefore, most of the people here who do not have a proper knowledge about bitcoin believe bitcoin as a stupid, dummy coin or even MLM. My dad is one of them. Any solution to solve this problem ? It is quite hard though because I am still a teenager so it is extremely difficult to persuade him
Thanks in advance

For me, I don't have to do anything to convince anyone around me that bitcoin is a trustful currency. If they look into it as a bad currency then so be it. After all, if they will see me really getting benefits from using bitcoin at regular basis then that thoughts of theirs will be changed in the future.

In your case I see it's not problem. Your father will listen to you no matter what rather than the bad news spreads around. Answer all of his doubts and questions. Like you said, bad guys there abuse bitcoin so why the hell bitcoin is the main concern here rather than those bad guys?

What is the purpose of family talks? It's the most effective when dealing with a concern between the members of the family. He should listen after you make such strong foundation and basis about your claims pointing to bitcoin.

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November 26, 2016, 05:35:27 PM
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you just need to show how you look it up and use it, so surely your father would understand how the credibility of bitcoin and father might realize that bitcoin will shine brightly in the future, because bitcoin is a tool that is used as a means of transaction in the future.

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November 26, 2016, 05:41:10 PM
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Here is the story: My dad just found out that I am storing bitcoin and he try to prevent me from using this crypto. This is absolutely the worst situation I have ever had since I started used Bitcoin. I am living in the country which bad guys abuse Bitcoin for illegal activities. Therefore, most of the people here who do not have a proper knowledge about bitcoin believe bitcoin as a stupid, dummy coin or even MLM. My dad is one of them. Any solution to solve this problem ? It is quite hard though because I am still a teenager so it is extremely difficult to persuade him
Thanks in advance
It depends if you think you can persuade him then go for it, but something tells me it is not going to be that easy, so in my opinion is better to keep the secret and since your dad already found out the only solution that I see is to convince him you are going to leave bitcoin.

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November 26, 2016, 05:52:29 PM
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From my experience I know that you can met people who are so deeply rooted in their convention that talking to them is waste of time.
I hope your dad is not that type of a person, because if that is the case you won't succeed in talking to him - he will be deaf to your arguments.

People who are against cryptocurrency are usually misinformed and have poor knowledge of the subject. They have no idea how crooked current economy based on FIAT it.
Media coverage which is mostly focused on negative aspects of everything - because that is what media do to gain views - is not helping BTC either.
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November 26, 2016, 05:56:59 PM
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Here is the story: My dad just found out that I am storing bitcoin and he try to prevent me from using this crypto. This is absolutely the worst situation I have ever had since I started used Bitcoin. I am living in the country which bad guys abuse Bitcoin for illegal activities. Therefore, most of the people here who do not have a proper knowledge about bitcoin believe bitcoin as a stupid, dummy coin or even MLM. My dad is one of them. Any solution to solve this problem ? It is quite hard though because I am still a teenager so it is extremely difficult to persuade him
Thanks in advance

For me, I don't have to do anything to convince anyone around me that bitcoin is a trustful currency. If they look into it as a bad currency then so be it. After all, if they will see me really getting benefits from using bitcoin at regular basis then that thoughts of theirs will be changed in the future.

In your case I see it's not problem. Your father will listen to you no matter what rather than the bad news spreads around. Answer all of his doubts and questions. Like you said, bad guys there abuse bitcoin so why the hell bitcoin is the main concern here rather than those bad guys?

What is the purpose of family talks? It's the most effective when dealing with a concern between the members of the family. He should listen after you make such strong foundation and basis about your claims pointing to bitcoin.
Yeah you have the point and agree..
For me i already solve this problem before because my father seen that i am getting a good benefits in bitcoin and how i addicted to use bitcoin..
And also it helps me a lot i do not need to ask for money to them i just withdraw my few bitcoin and use in my study.
So now they are heard some news about bitcoin when they are searching like stores in brazil that accepting bitcoin.. bitcoin banks..
So it is depends in you how you show what is the benefits of bitcoin and it is trusted.. since i am living 1 year with bitcoin  they are accepting it because i never arrested by someone.. so to it is trusted.. because they are thinking before that it is scam or illegal that is why they are stopping me to use bitcoin..



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November 26, 2016, 05:57:50 PM
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You need to start right at the beggining and show him videos/books (depending on how old school he is haha) to learn what a bitcoin actually is. It's just a public ledger where you transfer around money and people confirm that it's been moved around by mining. Miners also 'create' bitcoins when they solve a block. That's how I would do it.
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November 26, 2016, 06:20:30 PM
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Well, you have to seek for some high quality news about bitcoin. You can start just from its legal status, Switzerland where you can buy them in the airport and Sweden planning to switch to their own cryptocurrency. Well, for a teenager it is always a problem to explain something to adults, because they don't respect each other mostly.

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November 26, 2016, 07:21:25 PM
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Talk to him about the mathematics behind bitcoin, try to fully understand how it works and then explain it to your dad, i think that will def help him to accept.  Criminals always use the leading tech of their time it gives them an advantage.
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November 26, 2016, 08:14:45 PM
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Here is the story: My dad just found out that I am storing bitcoin and he try to prevent me from using this crypto. This is absolutely the worst situation I have ever had since I started used Bitcoin. I am living in the country which bad guys abuse Bitcoin for illegal activities. Therefore, most of the people here who do not have a proper knowledge about bitcoin believe bitcoin as a stupid, dummy coin or even MLM. My dad is one of them. Any solution to solve this problem ? It is quite hard though because I am still a teenager so it is extremely difficult to persuade him
Thanks in advance

For me, I don't have to do anything to convince anyone around me that bitcoin is a trustful currency. If they look into it as a bad currency then so be it. After all, if they will see me really getting benefits from using bitcoin at regular basis then that thoughts of theirs will be changed in the future.

In your case I see it's not problem. Your father will listen to you no matter what rather than the bad news spreads around. Answer all of his doubts and questions. Like you said, bad guys there abuse bitcoin so why the hell bitcoin is the main concern here rather than those bad guys?

What is the purpose of family talks? It's the most effective when dealing with a concern between the members of the family. He should listen after you make such strong foundation and basis about your claims pointing to bitcoin.

But the problem here lies on the authority.  Parents are responsible for their kid.  And since bitcoin had bad name in their country, it is natural for parents to worry if they found one of their kids is using or involved with bitcoin activity.
If you try to reason out, it will only result to a heated argument especially OP is still a teenager, his father will more likely not listen to him.  All OP can do is to follow his father's demand.  It is just a matter of respect and understanding.  And this father is just protecting his kids.
Btw, if everything cools down, try to persuade your father that bitcoin is not bad as he thinks. and then show him all the proof of what you are saying.

So I would suggest to follow first (this will open a more senseful conversation) , then after sometime, explain to him what really bitcoin is.
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