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December 07, 2016, 12:27:46 AM
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so how many wind turbines or solar panels needed to make hydrogen.


So all we need to do is find the most powerful solar panels most powerful wind turbines and do the math and work out what energy is needed and if it can be done..
Then we know if it's possible..
Example..It takes 2 turbines producing so many kilo watts to produce so many litres of hydrogen..
I not worked it out YET but some bright spark might be able to do it faster..

Specs below..

Electrolyser: 1 WFuel cell: 500 mWGas storage: 30 cm3 H2;30 cm3 O2Solar module: 2.0V / 350 mAFan: 10 mWH x W x D: 100 x 300 x 150 mmWeight: 6

Sources:h-tec Education

Electricity needed to power up electrolyzer to produce hydrogen.

When stored as a gas at a pressure of 20MPa:

1 liter contains 0.53kWhEnergy efficiency of electrolysis - roughly 50%. 1.06kWh of electricity to produce 1 liter hydrogen.

When stored as a gas at 24.8MPa1.28kWh = 1 liter hydrogen

When stored as a gas at 30MPa1.50kWh = 1 liter hydrogen

When stored as a liquid at 20K4.72kWh = 1 liter hydrogen

When stored as a metal hydride6.36kWh = 1 liter hydrogen

Source/s:hypertextbook

The amount of energy stored in 1 kilogram of hydrogen.

One gallon of gasoline has about the same energy as one kilogram (1000 grams, which is about 2.2 lbs.) of hydrogen gas. 33.4 kilowatt hours of electricity is equivalent (in energy) to one gallon of gasoline (114,000 BTU); this means 33.4 kilowatt hours is also equivalent (in energy) to one kilogram of hydrogen gas.

After doing my sums you would just use the solar instead of wasting the energy trying to make the hydrogen gas Roll Eyes..YER i am good at math  Cheesy..BUT what about this below?..

it has something to do with logistics and infrastructure.

you dont build solar cells on cars (atleast not today). you build eletric cars with batteries.
Batteries from today are very expensive and not enviroment friendly and have up to 400 km range.

Hydrogen doesnt need batteries or an electric motor (no need to change the car design) - but you need a lot of energy to split h20 to h.
I agree..Only because i worked it out with my great math Cheesy..
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December 07, 2016, 11:06:19 AM
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so how many wind turbines or solar panels needed to make hydrogen.


So all we need to do is find the most powerful solar panels most powerful wind turbines and do the math and work out what energy is needed and if it can be done..
Then we know if it's possible..
Example..It takes 2 turbines producing so many kilo watts to produce so many litres of hydrogen..
I not worked it out YET but some bright spark might be able to do it faster..

Specs below..

Electrolyser: 1 WFuel cell: 500 mWGas storage: 30 cm3 H2;30 cm3 O2Solar module: 2.0V / 350 mAFan: 10 mWH x W x D: 100 x 300 x 150 mmWeight: 6

Sources:h-tec Education

Electricity needed to power up electrolyzer to produce hydrogen.

When stored as a gas at a pressure of 20MPa:

1 liter contains 0.53kWhEnergy efficiency of electrolysis - roughly 50%. 1.06kWh of electricity to produce 1 liter hydrogen.

When stored as a gas at 24.8MPa1.28kWh = 1 liter hydrogen

When stored as a gas at 30MPa1.50kWh = 1 liter hydrogen

When stored as a liquid at 20K4.72kWh = 1 liter hydrogen

When stored as a metal hydride6.36kWh = 1 liter hydrogen

Source/s:hypertextbook

The amount of energy stored in 1 kilogram of hydrogen.

One gallon of gasoline has about the same energy as one kilogram (1000 grams, which is about 2.2 lbs.) of hydrogen gas. 33.4 kilowatt hours of electricity is equivalent (in energy) to one gallon of gasoline (114,000 BTU); this means 33.4 kilowatt hours is also equivalent (in energy) to one kilogram of hydrogen gas.

After doing my sums you would just use the solar instead of wasting the energy trying to make the hydrogen gas Roll Eyes..YER i am good at math  Cheesy..BUT what about this below?..

it has something to do with logistics and infrastructure.

you dont build solar cells on cars (atleast not today). you build eletric cars with batteries.
Batteries from today are very expensive and not enviroment friendly and have up to 400 km range.

Hydrogen doesnt need batteries or an electric motor (no need to change the car design) - but you need a lot of energy to split h20 to h.
I agree..Only because i worked it out with my great math Cheesy..

Very knowledgeable post. Bravo. Only with any rule there are exceptions. To help make a difference in your calculations, for example maybe some sort of catalyst. But so far have not found. In any case, I think that people will go the other way.
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December 11, 2016, 03:15:53 AM
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Well, I'd like to share a Filipino inventor who already made a water fueled motor engine five years ago.It was a break through in modern technology and filipinos were on a hype to have these technology that costs 0 but the invention was bought by some company and all of his research was sold. So that's it.
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December 11, 2016, 03:30:59 AM
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Well, I'd like to share a Filipino inventor who already made a water fueled motor engine five years ago.It was a break through in modern technology and filipinos were on a hype to have these technology that costs 0 but the invention was bought by some company and all of his research was sold. So that's it.

 Well it was longer ago than that.  Daniel Dingle (who passed away 6 years ago at age 84) "invented" the technology in 1968 but never revealed details to anyone; seems he just scammed potential buyers for money.


Philippine Daily Inquirer
 First Posted 03:11:00 12/20/2008

Filed Under: Crime, Automotive Equipment
 MANILA, Philippines-Daniel Dingel, 82-year-old inventor of a “water-powered car,” has been convicted of “estafa” [swindling] and sentenced to a maximum of 20 years imprisonment by the Paranaque City Regional Trial Court.

 Daniel Dingel Water Powered Car Inventor gets 20 years for ‘swindling’
Posted by keelynet on December 20, 2008

The technology is NOT invalidated by this court action.

“Daniel Dingel, 82-year-old inventor of a “water-powered car,” has been convicted of “estafa” [swindling] and sentenced to a maximum of 20 years imprisonment by the Paranaque City Regional Trial Court. The court also ordered him to pay $380,000 in actual damages. Dingel, who has never revealed the secret to his invention, which he began in 1969, questioned the verdict but said he did not mind going to jail at his age. As of late Friday, he remained at large. Dingel was found guilty of taking $410,000 from Dr. John Ding Young of Formosa Plastics Group, a Taiwanese company, which gave it to him as research and development funds. The decision, written by Judge Rolando How of the court’s Branch 257 and released on Dec. 9, said Dingel defrauded Young when the inventor failed to fulfill his obligation of developing his “hydrogen reactor” and creating experimental cars in 2000. The unique device – a “hydrogen reactor” resembling a 12-volt battery – impressed the Taiwanese when Dingel demonstrated how it powered and fueled the car’s engine. They were also told that fuel from water had clean emissions as it did not produce carbon the way gasoline did. After receiving the money ($300,000) by wire transfer, Dingel avoided replying to his emails on the progress of the project and instead sent copies of letters from other foreign investors offering Dingel larger sums of money. Young said he kept his end of the bargain by sending another $60,000 in additional funds for R&D as stated in the joint venture agreement. He said it was then that Dingel began ignoring his communications. He said he sent demand letters for the return of $410,000 were but Dingel did not give the amount back. Instead of returning the money, Dingel withdrew $375,603.89 from his bank account and left only $500. “He admitted withdrawing the money after learning that a suit had been filed against him,” it said. “His act of immediately withdrawing the money indicated bad faith on his part.” – Source



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March 02, 2017, 12:41:25 PM
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really? can send the link to me Huh?
but how can there can transfer to the power to let the car move?Huh?
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March 02, 2017, 12:52:33 PM
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really? can send the link to me Huh?
but how can there can transfer to the power to let the car move?Huh?

This is a fairly old story. Is proven that it is not possible to build the engine on this technology. The amount of energy to split water into hydrogen and oxygen exceeds the energy which in this case stands out. All the videos on the Internet is fake order to lure unsuspecting citizens money.
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March 10, 2017, 09:57:50 PM
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I hope in the future, this will turn to reality. With a vehicle powered by water is the best solution to air pollution. It is eco friendly and people will save a lot of bucks. I think big oil companies will go on bankrupt when people started to use water powered vehicles. Billionaires should invest to this kind of technology that way we can prolong and rehabilitate our Mother Earth's life.
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March 11, 2017, 01:24:26 AM
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I hope in the future, this will turn to reality. With a vehicle powered by water is the best solution to air pollution. It is eco friendly and people will save a lot of bucks. I think big oil companies will go on bankrupt when people started to use water powered vehicles. Billionaires should invest to this kind of technology that way we can prolong and rehabilitate our Mother Earth's life.
No one will invest in such technology. From the point of view of science proved that it is not possible. It's all the tricks of swindlers.
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March 11, 2017, 02:58:49 AM
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I hope in the future, this will turn to reality. With a vehicle powered by water is the best solution to air pollution. It is eco friendly and people will save a lot of bucks. I think big oil companies will go on bankrupt when people started to use water powered vehicles. Billionaires should invest to this kind of technology that way we can prolong and rehabilitate our Mother Earth's life.
No one will invest in such technology. From the point of view of science proved that it is not possible. It's all the tricks of swindlers.
It's possible and proven. However, it didn't succeed since huge car company blocked this project since they are the number one who will be affected if it happen so.
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March 11, 2017, 04:19:55 AM
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This sounds pretty cool
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March 12, 2017, 02:34:18 PM
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Sound very interesting. The interesting thing is how we could make this happen, and not provide hoax video
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March 13, 2017, 01:16:32 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob9xcX_OhIU

Iranian scientist Alaeddin Qassemi unveiled his new invention, a car that he says is powered by water, in Karaj, Sunday.
The car can reportedly run on 60 litres (15 gallons) of water and is able to travel up to 900 kilometres (559 miles) in 10 hours.
 The power is generated after H2O is split into hydrogen and oxygen which react chemically to produce energy.

Well this is one interesting invention but in reality what would be the use of gas if the car is powered by water its not really that hard but the gasoline is one of the most important thing in these days it will be no value if cars is powered by water. But i really think that water can move the car but its not like gas it can be process fast and the water cannot.
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March 13, 2017, 01:27:52 PM
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I've seen this car already on movies where they using h2o to start the engine of the car this is what the technology did to our world also thanks to those inventor who always finding ways to make our life more easier to live if this happen to all cars then we can 100% pollution free in ways hoping that will implements to all cars all over the world
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March 13, 2017, 04:40:28 PM
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If this is real then this is a welcome development, maybe before 2023 it will be in the market. Scientists has done this world good by not resting on their daily research on nature and it laws. A water power car will resolve the high cost of energy we are experienced now.
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March 13, 2017, 11:00:45 PM
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The Japanese have long lead development in this area. Japan is very dependent on energy and has not yet moved in this direction. Anyone who offers such technologies charlatans!

Because Japanese are not that really interested in cars and stuffs, they are more focused on how will people be comfortable in their life as long as they live, they don't improve much cars with their specs, but their appearance.
Japan has high technology and I think they are really contented with their transports.

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March 14, 2017, 01:29:20 PM
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there had been few cars in my country running powered by water actually. i've always seen this on the news years ago. and yes its true the principle works like its said, h2o is being exacted to separate hydrogen and oxygen. hydrogen is highly explosive which can serve as the air fuel mixture to power the shaft. its very efficient that an engine needs no constant change of oil.

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March 14, 2017, 05:58:01 PM
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there had been few cars in my country running powered by water actually. i've always seen this on the news years ago. and yes its true the principle works like its said, h2o is being exacted to separate hydrogen and oxygen. hydrogen is highly explosive which can serve as the air fuel mixture to power the shaft. its very efficient that an engine needs no constant change of oil.
The engine which works by splitting water into hydrogen and oxygen is not possible with the current technology. The amount of energy you spend more than you get. In addition, the oxygen reacts with the oil. It is a fake.
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March 14, 2017, 06:37:16 PM
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I think this has never been proven? Saw it before and did some research previously..
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March 19, 2017, 02:32:06 PM
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I am sure the Iranian Government will capture this man and stick him into a hole, With a country who's main source of income is Oil, this is going to hurt the revenues of the country, Most Oil producing countries will pay to have this invention stolen and hidden all because of money.
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March 28, 2017, 02:44:33 AM
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I've heard similar news, and all ended with fraud. This news will be greater if it were real
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