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April 07, 2013, 03:38:00 PM
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Barter > Gold/Silver > Fiat ..

Bitcoin.

The world has never truly had an economy which had a 'cap'. There was always constant growth/mining of items to barter, gold/silver also, always more to be found within the earth, fiat, well  Roll Eyes

To truly have a cap on moneysupply-inflation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140793.0).

What will this mean for food production, energy, welfare, wages, housing .. I mean, ye, we all know moving away from the fiat to btc is game changing. But think about how much of a game changer?

Will prices suddenly stop on some things? energy for example? how would new energy compete? by being more expensive? cheaper? would this mean that all new competition would occur by trying to be better, but a bit cheaper than the next person? How will this drive prices across the board, health, housing, wages, etc, are there things that it won't effect?

Would competition lower and lower prices until a price for a service/item reached its possible lowest and still retain a profit, and then the only way competition would have to drive would be towards being of better quality?

What do you expect would retain a static price? Items that also has a cap on its limit?

Your thoughts?
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April 07, 2013, 04:02:08 PM
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Prices will all go down to what people can/are willing to pay!
Profits will go down to what everybody is willing to give you in return for services provided.

Anyway, its all changing... What are you going to buy when you have a 3d printer in your house? Materials! Nothing else!
Even 3d printers cam be 3d printed ( just ask your friend to print you one... pay him for materials and give him a tip!)

How is anybody going to find jobs (as we see jobs today) in this scenario?

Only services will survive!

Also.. forget all intellectual "pdeuso" property!
Its not enforceable since it costs nothing to copy! Wink
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April 07, 2013, 04:08:23 PM
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Remember that bitcoin is extremely finely divisible.

Imagine there were a fixed amount of gold. As the economy grew in size, relative to the available amount of gold, gold would become more valuable relative to the various goods and services in the economy. This would drive the "price" of the gold up, and the prices of the goods and services, valued in gold, down. Price would go from grams, to milligrams, to micrograms, etc, down to the point where, eventually, people would be trading individual atoms.

Bitcoin can be divided below that "atomic" level.

What will this mean for food production, energy, welfare, wages, housing .. I mean, ye, we all know moving away from the fiat to btc is game changing. But think about how much of a game changer?
For the actual production/provision of these things, not much. Money is nothing but oil in the gears of trade. Better oil, smoother operation of the machine.

Will prices suddenly stop on some things? energy for example? how would new energy compete? by being more expensive? cheaper? would this mean that all new competition would occur by trying to be better, but a bit cheaper than the next person? How will this drive prices across the board, health, housing, wages, etc, are there things that it won't effect?
In general, prices will decrease, as valued in Bitcoin. Their real value will still be pretty much the same, but a more valuable currency means prices go down, just like a less valuable currency means prices go up.

Would competition lower and lower prices until a price for a service/item reached its possible lowest and still retain a profit, and then the only way competition would have to drive would be towards being of better quality?
Here's a secret: It does that already. Inflation masks this, somewhat, but there are industries where it remains pretty obvious. Computers, for instance.

What do you expect would retain a static price? Items that also has a cap on its limit?
Do you know of any other commodity or service which has a natural fixed limit?

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April 07, 2013, 07:56:28 PM
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Here's a secret: It does that already. Inflation masks this, somewhat, but there are industries where it remains pretty obvious. Computers, for instance.

Ahh, ye, didn't think about how inflation masks it. So when inflation (for all intents and purposes) ends, it will go much faster Smiley

I can't think of any other product tbh, so the inevitability of bitcoin being the only stable value that everything else would be weighed against .. interesting ..

An interesting point is coming soon.

Where the exchange rate (not quite the right term.. where the amount of people are buying into btc vs the amount produced) will overtake the amount of btc produced per day, interesting times ahead Smiley
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