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Russian Ambassador to NATO Alexander Grushko

MOSCOW, November 29. /TASS/.
There are no signs yet that NATO countries are ready to abandon the "Russian threat" myth, Russian Ambassador to NATO Alexander Grushko said on Tuesday.

"NATO still pursues the policy determined at the Wales and Warsaw summits. This policy is aimed at obtaining the central role in ensuring the Euro-Atlantic security once again, using the so-called ‘Russian threat’ myth. There are no signs yet that NATO countries are willing to abandon this course."
According to Grushko, "to make matters worse, NATO has suspended cooperation with Russia even in the spheres of mutual interest." "Meanwhile, global threats are still there," he went on to say. "Terrorism, the situation in Afghanistan, the chaos in the Middle East, these are the challenges that both Russia and NATO have been facing. If we speak or resolving the current crisis concerning the European security, then of course, our efforts should particularly be aimed at restoring cooperation in the spheres of mutual interest."
"Obviously, NATO should abandon the discredited policy of restraining Russia and stop strengthening its eastern flank as these activities do not enhance NATO members’ security but on the contrary, they create new security issues and challenges," the Russian ambassador said. "In fact, NATO has been trying to impose a Cold War era security system on us."

NATO and Donald Trump

NATO members were scandalized by Donald Trump’s election win, Grushko has noted.
"If we speak about what is going on inside NATO, then the US presidential election results shocked the member states," the Russian diplomat noted. "It is noteworthy that the shock was caused by some statements saying that improving relations between the US and Russian may harm NATO’s policy which it had been pursuing in the recent years."
According to Grushko, "this shows that the security situation is at the lowest level at the moment, since some countries, overwhelmed with Russophobic sentiment, consider normal relations between the two leading states, responsible for maintaining strategic stability, as a threat to their national security."


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This is the problem when the foreign policy gets entangled with the business interests. There are many private defense industries in the US and the EU, who benefit out of the scaremongering. These corporations are so powerful that they can have experienced US senators and European MEPs on their payroll. John McCain is a prime example.

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November 30, 2016, 01:53:38 AM
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one other issue is the transhumanism issue. by stealing dna from someone (or ovaries, semen) they cross the border of the sanctity of life. by this I mean that by not loving the one in both ways as he or she was born it becomes very hard for them to cross. it's a condamnation. why do they want to steal souls? it's very story when you aren't target of it.

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but in all event when the clash of the front line appears there is no more lies. I wait to have chance to assist to some military trial against swiss citizens. it will be fun to watch them hear their sentences.

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but in all event when the clash of the front line appears there is no more lies. I wait to have chance to assist to some military trial against swiss citizens. it will be fun to watch them hear their sentences.

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December 09, 2016, 08:07:15 PM
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This is the problem when the foreign policy gets entangled with the business interests. There are many private defense industries in the US and the EU, who benefit out of the scaremongering. These corporations are so powerful that they can have experienced US senators and European MEPs on their payroll. John McCain is a prime example.
McCain fought in Vietnam, was a prisoner and knew what Russia. Therefore, all his life considered Russia an enemy of America number one. And he's right. Just not all are able to know and believe it.
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One of the reasons we elected Trump was to correct this stupidity.

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One of the reasons we elected Trump was to correct this stupidity.
Trump will never be friends with Russia. Russia always was is and will be America's number one enemy. Trump is a businessman and thinks that the rules in politics as in business, but it is not so.

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December 09, 2016, 09:27:08 PM
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One of the reasons we elected Trump was to correct this stupidity.
Stupidity will be the fact that Russia in General can be seen as a potential ally. Once upon a time, Bismarck said that the agreement with Russia is not worth the paper on which it is written.
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Why are you creating a self moderated thread on a 'myth busting' topic?

This destroys my will of contributing to the discussion by creating a fear of my post being deleted because it doesn't match your beliefs

To be honest, strenghtening the 'eastern flank' is a solid idea, since Russia did invade and annex a part of Ukraine
Why would Russia even care if someone builds up their defenses if they don't have pretensions on that territory?

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It's not about politics anymore but more on business. Political transactions becomes business transaction.

There will be conflict in NATO not because of policies but because of money. If they will be given enough bribe money the conflict will settle down.

The primary cause of conflict today is money and the only thing that can settle this political conflict is money also.
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It's not about politics anymore but more on business. Political transactions becomes business transaction.

There will be conflict in NATO not because of policies but because of money. If they will be given enough bribe money the conflict will settle down.

The primary cause of conflict today is money and the only thing that can settle this political conflict is money also.

USA imports oil
Russia exports


ISIS sells oil at dirt cheap prices ---> price of oil goes down

USA---> profits
Russia--> losses

This is the reason why there's conflict between Russia and USA  Cheesy
USA wants cheaper oil prices and petrodollar, but Russia wants higher prices of oils, gasses etc since they export these

Although, Russian participation in Syria might also be a distraction from occupation of Crimea
How often have you heard about Crimea in the news lately?
Rarely?
Mostly about Syria Smiley
Or maybe it's both?

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It's not about politics anymore but more on business. Political transactions becomes business transaction.

There will be conflict in NATO not because of policies but because of money. If they will be given enough bribe money the conflict will settle down.

The primary cause of conflict today is money and the only thing that can settle this political conflict is money also.


USA imports oil
Russia exports


ISIS sells oil at dirt cheap prices ---> price of oil goes down

USA---> profits
Russia--> losses

This is the reason why there's conflict between Russia and USA  Cheesy

Although, Russian participation in Syria might also be a distraction from occupation of Crimea
How often have you heard about Crimea in the news lately?
Rarely?
Mostly about Syria Smiley
It seems to me that Russia is using Assad in Syria is constantly creating new conflicts and does not establish normal supplies of oil and gas to Europe. This would lead to a decrease in world prices and would reduce Europe's dependence on Russian gas.
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It's not about politics anymore but more on business. Political transactions becomes business transaction.

There will be conflict in NATO not because of policies but because of money. If they will be given enough bribe money the conflict will settle down.

The primary cause of conflict today is money and the only thing that can settle this political conflict is money also.

USA imports oil
Russia exports


ISIS sells oil at dirt cheap prices ---> price of oil goes down

USA---> profits
Russia--> losses

This is the reason why there's conflict between Russia and USA  Cheesy
USA wants cheaper oil prices and petrodollar, but Russia wants higher prices of oils, gasses etc since they export these

Although, Russian participation in Syria might also be a distraction from occupation of Crimea
How often have you heard about Crimea in the news lately?
Rarely?
Mostly about Syria Smiley
Or maybe it's both?

Ever heard about shale oil production in the USA?

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December 10, 2016, 06:26:04 PM
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It's not about politics anymore but more on business. Political transactions becomes business transaction.

There will be conflict in NATO not because of policies but because of money. If they will be given enough bribe money the conflict will settle down.

The primary cause of conflict today is money and the only thing that can settle this political conflict is money also.


USA imports oil
Russia exports


ISIS sells oil at dirt cheap prices ---> price of oil goes down

USA---> profits
Russia--> losses

This is the reason why there's conflict between Russia and USA  Cheesy

Although, Russian participation in Syria might also be a distraction from occupation of Crimea
How often have you heard about Crimea in the news lately?
Rarely?
Mostly about Syria Smiley
It seems to me that Russia is using Assad in Syria is constantly creating new conflicts and does not establish normal supplies of oil and gas to Europe. This would lead to a decrease in world prices and would reduce Europe's dependence on Russian gas.

yes, because Russia constantly invades other countries and tries to destroy the governments that do not suite them. Just like with Libya, Iraq,...

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December 11, 2016, 09:54:37 PM
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It's not about politics anymore but more on business. Political transactions becomes business transaction.

There will be conflict in NATO not because of policies but because of money. If they will be given enough bribe money the conflict will settle down.

The primary cause of conflict today is money and the only thing that can settle this political conflict is money also.

USA imports oil
Russia exports


ISIS sells oil at dirt cheap prices ---> price of oil goes down

USA---> profits
Russia--> losses

This is the reason why there's conflict between Russia and USA  Cheesy
USA wants cheaper oil prices and petrodollar, but Russia wants higher prices of oils, gasses etc since they export these

Although, Russian participation in Syria might also be a distraction from occupation of Crimea
How often have you heard about Crimea in the news lately?
Rarely?
Mostly about Syria Smiley
Or maybe it's both?

Ever heard about shale oil production in the USA?

Ever heard of USA importing 60% of their oil?

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Russia constantly invades other countries and tries to destroy the governments that do not suite them. Just like with Libya, Iraq,...

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Trump will never be friends with Russia. Russia always was is and will be America's number one enemy. Trump is a businessman and thinks that the rules in politics as in business, but it is not so.

China, and not Russia is America's number one enemy. And Trump realizes this, as he puts the national interests ahead of vested interests from the corporations. Russia can be a very reliable ally for the US, if a future confrontation with China occurs. But 8-years of Russophobic policies by the Democrats have pushed Russia towards the Chinese orbit.

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December 12, 2016, 01:59:19 PM
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Trump will never be friends with Russia. Russia always was is and will be America's number one enemy. Trump is a businessman and thinks that the rules in politics as in business, but it is not so.

China, and not Russia is America's number one enemy. And Trump realizes this, as he puts the national interests ahead of vested interests from the corporations. Russia can be a very reliable ally for the US, if a future confrontation with China occurs. But 8-years of Russophobic policies by the Democrats have pushed Russia towards the Chinese orbit.
Friends against someone in the Russian style! You have always been against anybody. It's not only friendship and cooperation. Depending on the situation the Russians will betray without hesitation, and will be able themselves to attack.

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December 12, 2016, 03:13:35 PM
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Yes. This whole sittuation could be a game of bad (obama) and good (trump) cop, to make Usa fight china using russian land forces and their bases. At least it looks like so.

One of the reason why it is like so, its because all of the blame russia thing gives everyone a bad aftertaste in mouth. Its all so stupid, that a public opinion can go 180 degree to the site of loving Russia, or at least having good relations might be seen from both sides as a political success. And such a warm hugs might results in trying to find a common enemies to relieve tensions between the lovers.

In Poland  we say that the ones that argue with eachother have an affection toward eachother.
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NATo is designed against Russia and will eventually attack after Trump is being displaced by some Obama-Hillary-Soros president.

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