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December 01, 2016, 05:08:51 PM
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I see. I traded with them and the payment went through (they also offered me a bank payment but i decided to stay with paypal).
They process the USD payments via 3rd party processor so I believe I am safe, not sure about the rupees payments though.

Well, best of luck to you mate.
I wouldn't recommend using them for any more of your transactions.
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December 01, 2016, 05:19:03 PM
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"The address mentioned on that site is 10 mins away from where I live.
So, I know that there is no Bitcoin exchange over there. " 

very strong statement that will build doubt for sure if this address that has been provided is not existing a possibility of a scam site hope no one got into the net of scammers, arbitrage is good but that big difference from current price is too suspicious better to review and and assess properly before doing any trade.

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December 01, 2016, 05:33:37 PM
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"The address mentioned on that site is 10 mins away from where I live.
So, I know that there is no Bitcoin exchange over there. " 

very strong statement that will build doubt for sure if this address that has been provided is not existing a possibility of a scam site hope no one got into the net of scammers, arbitrage is good but that big difference from current price is too suspicious better to review and and assess properly before doing any trade.

The simple statement about reviews is: "you cannot review something if you do not have any experience it."
In this case it goes: 1. trade 2. review (it cannot be: 1. review 2. trade, as you mentioned).

My experience was a pleasant one, so my review still remains positive.
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December 01, 2016, 05:34:18 PM
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This is such an obvious scam it's not even worth to go deeper into the analysis
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December 01, 2016, 05:43:01 PM
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"The address mentioned on that site is 10 mins away from where I live.
So, I know that there is no Bitcoin exchange over there. " 

very strong statement that will build doubt for sure if this address that has been provided is not existing a possibility of a scam site hope no one got into the net of scammers, arbitrage is good but that big difference from current price is too suspicious better to review and and assess properly before doing any trade.

The simple statement about reviews is: "you cannot review something if you do not have any experience it."
In this case it goes: 1. trade 2. review (it cannot be: 1. review 2. trade, as you mentioned).

My experience was a pleasant one, so my review still remains positive.

Can you provide with proof of payment? Transaction id and transaction picture?
I doubt to your India exchange site you mentioned, because the site looks like copy-cat, I ever see the interface, system even min.deposit is have a same amount.
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December 01, 2016, 06:36:21 PM
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I have seen these kinds of opportunities since I have been interested in bitcoin. To me it is actually easier to have altcoin exchanges where you can change from X coin to Y coin to Z coin and back to X coin where you make arbitrage income thanks to it. No big deal as I usually do not prefer to trade with fiats, it is always riskier.

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December 01, 2016, 06:41:40 PM
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you can change from X coin to Y coin to Z coin and back to X coin where you make arbitrage income thanks to it.
It is completely new thing to me. So far I have tried arbitrage trading across exchanges but with your way of suggestion, I guess if I study in depth the price fluctuations I may get chances to trade within exchanges.

In first read I could not understand your idea but now I am realizing it's potential and how often it will be possible.
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December 01, 2016, 08:32:55 PM
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"The address mentioned on that site is 10 mins away from where I live.
So, I know that there is no Bitcoin exchange over there. " 

very strong statement that will build doubt for sure if this address that has been provided is not existing a possibility of a scam site hope no one got into the net of scammers, arbitrage is good but that big difference from current price is too suspicious better to review and and assess properly before doing any trade.

The simple statement about reviews is: "you cannot review something if you do not have any experience it."
In this case it goes: 1. trade 2. review (it cannot be: 1. review 2. trade, as you mentioned).

My experience was a pleasant one, so my review still remains positive.
In retrospect, whenever the rates  from an exchange site is a wide mark off the track, a grand scam is simply in the making - see Mtgox and Cryptsy. The fact they fixed a minimum amount to trade and as high 0.5 Btc and putting Paypal forward as payment system unless one is dealing in the region of 20 Btc, is enough red flags to decipher where all these is headed.

The fact, you have gotten away with your first transaction is no guarantee, the next would be all said and done. from experience, they won't strike yet, until a good number of gullible people are off their guard.

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December 01, 2016, 09:01:13 PM
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I already showed the screenshots fro the trade, but here it is again:





And the PayPal payout:





And the transaction ID:
https://blockchain.info/tx/2a9b2731e7f4a64a8942d74400ff700ca253162725dcddd74596147a17c98b59

Once again people, read the thread before commenting, they offered me a bank transfer instead of a paypal transfer, i simply chose paypal myself.
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December 02, 2016, 02:32:27 PM
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I already showed the screenshots fro the trade, but here it is again:

Why do you even mind if they call this website Scam ? I suspect you are the guy behind this
They are paying a fuc**ng 10k INR more than the normal rate. That's around 20%
No body is so generous dude

Edit : Also site looks very basic and Cheap which makes it look even more scammy
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December 02, 2016, 06:12:51 PM
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They are paying a fuc**ng 10k INR more than the normal rate. That's around 20%
Due to the recent crisis with their currency notes, Indian bitcoin markets are trading around $950 price levels, so bitcoin prices are 20% higher in India than the rest of the world markets.

That is the reason OP is discussing about arbitrage trading based on Indian markets and other markets. I guess it is not that easy as it involves fiats and dealing in fiat in India might attract more regulations from their government.
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December 08, 2016, 04:54:28 PM
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Sceptical, domain just registered and only for one year...

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$ whois btcindia.org
[Querying whois.pir.org]
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Domain Name: BTCINDIA.ORG
Domain ID: D402200000000757222-LROR
WHOIS Server:
Referral URL: http://www.enom.com
Updated Date: 2016-11-29T10:22:33Z
Creation Date: 2016-11-29T10:19:20Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2017-11-29T10:19:20Z
Sponsoring Registrar: eNom, Inc.
Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 48
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: serverTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#serverTransferProhibited
Registrant ID: 579e6624edf2fc92
Registrant Name: Bit India
Registrant Organization: BTC TRADE INDIA
Registrant Street: 52/1, DESH BANDHU GUPTA MARG
Registrant City: NEW DELHI
Registrant State/Province: NEW DELHI
Registrant Postal Code: 110005
Registrant Country: IN
Registrant Phone: +91.9911746627
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December 08, 2016, 07:20:03 PM
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Sceptical, domain just registered and only for one year...
Thank you for the useful information.

I just checked Indian market bitcoin prices, I believe the prices are converging right now. Yes Indian market prices are getting slashed out maybe with the reason of heavy dump from local/international bitcoiners. Usuaally arbitrage trading opportunities are for short-term and this India based opportunity is almost getting finished off.
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December 08, 2016, 07:33:49 PM
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The exchange opperators themselves would be doing the arbing if there is huge profit in it vs actually running the exchange.  I did often wonder in the past if BTC-e did this.

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December 08, 2016, 07:37:24 PM
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I cannot wait for that 10k paypal payment to be reversed
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December 08, 2016, 08:03:23 PM
Last edit: December 08, 2016, 08:15:59 PM by cryptoheadd
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I cannot wait for that 10k paypal payment to be reversed

IF the payment was actually made, that is.
Screenshots can be faked and the OP seemed really interested in getting people to use that service.



Example of a faked screenshot:



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December 08, 2016, 09:13:37 PM
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I just checked Indian market bitcoin prices, I believe the prices are converging right now. Yes Indian market prices are getting slashed out maybe with the reason of heavy dump from local/international bitcoiners. Usuaally arbitrage trading opportunities are for short-term and this India based opportunity is almost getting finished off.
Yes, converging prices are symptoms of end of possibility of arbitrage trading. But right now Indian market are still trading with enough gaps to make use of. Preev shows $766.7 and Indian exchange unocoin shows prices equivalent of $828.29, more than $50 a good profits to book per one full bitcoin trading instantly.
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December 08, 2016, 11:04:02 PM
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iam first about bitcoinindia org
new exchanger or old exchanger, because in coinmarketcap can't find about volume transaction
in there fiat money deposit and withdraw, all support payment procesor, transfer in bank(wire transfer), paypal, skrill and more or not
or only support paypal

i can see in there only exchange without trading
only exchange you must incraese your trust
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December 26, 2016, 08:16:28 AM
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Stoner is one lucky bastard

Just wanted to shout out that I personally got hit by this and was convinced by stoners version of events.
Reporting my experience, I initiated a 0.5 BTC trade but got a odd request to send an additional 1.5 BTC to top-up the trade to 2 BTC as "due to high volume trades we have increased the minimum".

After soul searching and reading stoner posts, Topped-up the 1.5 BTC as requested and BTC India reverted "it was strange it didn't go though... actually our systems needs you to transfer EXACTLY 2.0 BTC".

After a bit of back and forth, they said "we can request a refund if you'd like", after which they went dark.

I'm not one to defame others but if you're reading this, condsider yourself warned. The BTC India website is still up, and I intend to update this if things turn for the better. To anyone who's read this thread and intends to test the waters: No update = this was a total loss.
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December 26, 2016, 09:30:51 AM
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Don't get fooled, this is a scam and OP is the scammer or is speaking on his behalf.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5hj7i3/scamed_at_btcindiaorg/

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