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December 01, 2016, 06:12:59 AM
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Hi Lauda,
I saw that you gave me a negative trust and I am not here to fight for the same, but say sorry to you for my behavior. Smiley
I know I deserved it just because I posted for the sake of payment only, and I know it was spammy.
But according to your rules, we need to wait for 30 days before asking again for a review of our account.
I saw about the ban theory, and also one thing that people who are banned for the 1st time, they get it for 7 days and then unbanned and get a chance to get back into a signature campaign or conduct their trades or anything.
2nd chance is 14 days and 3rd one is 30 days, the final warning after which that user gets perma-banned 4th time.

All I want to ask you is, can't this be fair in case of negative trust too that the review that takes place after 30 days should be done in 7 days only and give an opportunity to someone to prove themselves innocent? I know I had a job (signature campaign) and I didn't do it right, so even I believe that this spammy behavior should not be condoned or excused, but I am just asking about a fair decision I expect from you guys, especially Mods like you.

Still, it's your decision in the end, I just wanted to ask you what I had in my mind based on the fairness purpose.

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December 01, 2016, 06:25:15 AM
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give an opportunity to someone to prove themselves innocent?

You just admitted you were guilty...

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December 01, 2016, 06:32:43 AM
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The SMAS team isnt banning you from this forum. We are not stopping you from joining in any campaign that will accept you. We are not stopping you from conducting any trades on this forum. Youre still free to go about your daily business. Traders can read the feedback and see its from spammy posting activity, not scammy trading.

With all this being said, you self admittingly agree to the feedback. So you should accept the punishment(30 days) and move on. As stated we are not banning you from the forum(7 days, 14, 30, perma), youre just not gonna be allowed in many campaigns until you change your posting style and start contributing to this forum.

Your main concern should no be money and thats what everyone seems to have a problem with. Anyone who is a positive member of the forum is on board(at least from what i see) with the SMAS movement. The only people who seem to be pissed off or butthurt are those who are depending on filling their wallets from sig campaign money. Those ppl who have been running multiple accounts over the years are whom im seeing write all the negative threads this week from alt accounts.

You should only be posting casually to earn a few bucks people. Ive said it before and im saying it again here, this is not your weekly paycheck. Get a damn job, or offer a service to earn bitcoin. Your mentality shouldnt be, i need to make 400 posts this week so i can make 200$ on the forum from my 20 accounts.

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December 01, 2016, 06:35:26 AM
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You marked as Signature Campaign (Spam/Abuse).
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Blatant signature spammer with the inability to read before posting. Sometimes they may write up seemingly on-topic posts. Post bursting (e.g. ~90 seconds between posts). Regardless, I do not condone this type of behavior. Reference: Post history.
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My reference's you must delete all post intended. and try to acknowledge and do a appeal.
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December 01, 2016, 06:42:05 AM
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You marked as Signature Campaign (Spam/Abuse).
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Blatant signature spammer with the inability to read before posting. Sometimes they may write up seemingly on-topic posts. Post bursting (e.g. ~90 seconds between posts). Regardless, I do not condone this type of behavior. Reference: Post history.
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My reference's you must delete all post intended. and try to acknowledge and do a appeal.
Oh yeah, here's a future banned sig spammer.  Didn't understand this at all.

If a hero member is still posting with such poor quality as to get negged, does anyone really believe they're going to ramp up anything but post length?  Quality is hard to improve for these people.  Agree that campaign earnings should be subordinate to the real desire to post simply to engage in discussion.
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December 01, 2016, 08:01:31 AM
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give an opportunity to someone to prove themselves innocent?

You just admitted you were guilty...

And he just apologized for it too which is invisible to most of you guys .
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December 01, 2016, 11:55:47 AM
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give an opportunity to someone to prove themselves innocent?

You just admitted you were guilty...

Yeah I did, and that's the only reason I created this thread.
I know that sorry is not a word that could get me anything here, but giving it a try is what I did. Smiley


The SMAS team isnt banning you from this forum. We are not stopping you from joining in any campaign that will accept you. We are not stopping you from conducting any trades on this forum. Youre still free to go about your daily business. Traders can read the feedback and see its from spammy posting activity, not scammy trading.

With all this being said, you self admittingly agree to the feedback. So you should accept the punishment(30 days) and move on. As stated we are not banning you from the forum(7 days, 14, 30, perma), youre just not gonna be allowed in many campaigns until you change your posting style and start contributing to this forum.

Your main concern should no be money and thats what everyone seems to have a problem with. Anyone who is a positive member of the forum is on board(at least from what i see) with the SMAS movement. The only people who seem to be pissed off or butthurt are those who are depending on filling their wallets from sig campaign money. Those ppl who have been running multiple accounts over the years are whom im seeing write all the negative threads this week from alt accounts.

You should only be posting casually to earn a few bucks people. Ive said it before and im saying it again here, this is not your weekly paycheck. Get a damn job, or offer a service to earn bitcoin. Your mentality shouldnt be, i need to make 400 posts this week so i can make 200$ on the forum from my 20 accounts.

Thanks a lot yahoo for replying here, I just wanted to hear from you guys.
I did the wrong thing by posting in such a way which looked spammy, but most of my posts weren't spam and were on-topic.
It was just that the time during which I did all this was too short for me to show myself innocent here, which is why I am sorry as I know I did it just for the sake of payment and nothing. All week long, I was not able to make any posts due to which I took this step. Even making 20 - 40 posts a day is not an issue as I know many users do that, but the way they do it and they post helpful comments due to which they don't get such a feedback I got. And yeah, my mentality isn't what you think, yahoo. I don't think that I need to make xx posts to make xx $ on the forum with xx accounts, I don't have alts and have just one account here and I am happy to have it alone. I needed the coins, so I committed the fault. Sad
Neither am I pissed off nor butthurt, and I am grateful to SMAS for not banning me from doing anything or joining any campaigns, but as the negative marking is from a DT member, do you really think anyone, even except you guys, would give me a chance to be in a signature campaign?
I know that it should not be my main purpose to make money here, but being in a signature campaign is what many members are here for.
The only difference is, few take it as a side business and others depend on it to live. I am the one who takes it as a side income, but all I thought was, as ban rules are 7 days for first chance, they should be fair in case of negative marking too and give another chance at a lower pace of time.

As I said previously, decision still rests in your court, and I know it's not going to change. Smiley

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December 01, 2016, 12:43:24 PM
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To clarify the situation to outsiders, I have caught the OP spamming via a method known as 'shot bursting' (should be self explanatory). They have also admitted this via PM:

I am really very sorry for that behavior that I showed up, I know I had to be active all week long and shouldn't have done like this. I was not able to come online the whole week due to which I did like this, but I promise I won't post for payment alone again.
I don't think I ever replied to this PM due to abnormal amount that I have been receiving as of late.

I saw about the ban theory, and also one thing that people who are banned for the 1st time, they get it for 7 days..
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All I want to ask you is, can't this be fair in case of negative trust too that the review that takes place after 30 days should be done in 7 days only and give an opportunity to someone to prove themselves innocent?
To cover some things:
1) This is not related to banning, thus this comparison i a 'false equivalency'.
2) The banning policy has become much softer since BadBear is inactive.
3) Where did you get this '30 days review' thing for negative ratings? There is no such. You may be talking about the SMAS blacklist, which has a review period (on request) 30 days after you've been added. However, that has no relevance here.

Considering the circumstances, and your mature acceptance of this situation I think that this warrants a tone down to neutral (which puts you into my watch list). However, if this has landed you on a blacklist by SMAS, then you don't get a second chance early for that.

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December 01, 2016, 02:15:08 PM
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I saw about the ban theory, and also one thing that people who are banned for the 1st time, they get it for 7 days..
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All I want to ask you is, can't this be fair in case of negative trust too that the review that takes place after 30 days should be done in 7 days only and give an opportunity to someone to prove themselves innocent?
To cover some things:
1) This is not related to banning, thus this comparison i a 'false equivalency'.
2) The banning policy has become much softer since BadBear is inactive.
3) Where did you get this '30 days review' thing for negative ratings? There is no such. You may be talking about the SMAS blacklist, which has a review period (on request) 30 days after you've been added. However, that has no relevance here.

Considering the circumstances, and your mature acceptance of this situation I think that this warrants a tone down to neutral (which puts you into my watch list). However, if this has landed you on a blacklist by SMAS, then you don't get a second chance early for that.

Thanks a lot for coming here and consider what I wanted to say. I am not on SMAS blacklist currently, that's what I think as I have checked the list and I don't see my name there. The only thing I didn't understand here is what I have put into bold in your statement, I mean if that's your decision to put me in your watch list, what about the negative trust that is still on my profile?

When should I "expect" it to be removed or at least get changed back to neutral? Do I need to wait or will it be removed some time later?
Sorry to ask like this, I feel very ashamed asking this  Embarrassed, but just took a chance by doing so.  Wink

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December 01, 2016, 02:20:41 PM
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The only thing I didn't understand here is what I have put into bold in your statement, I mean if that's your decision to put me in your watch list, what about the negative trust that is still on my profile?
To tone down a rating that is negative means to make it neutral.

When should I "expect" it to be removed or at least get changed back to neutral? Do I need to wait or will it be removed some time later?
I need to think about it more, I'm somewhat busy at this moment. Soon™.

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December 01, 2016, 02:24:22 PM
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To tone down a rating that is negative means to make it neutral.

Thanks a lot for the clarification.

I need to think about it more, I'm somewhat busy at this moment. Soon™.

Please take your time and do it whenever you want. Loved the way you wrote "Soon™Grin
Thanks for the consideration, I am happy. Smiley

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December 01, 2016, 05:11:33 PM
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give an opportunity to someone to prove themselves innocent?

You just admitted you were guilty...

And he just apologized for it too which is invisible to most of you guys .

You idiots think you can come in here, do whatever you want, apologize and it's all better.   Undecided

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December 01, 2016, 06:17:25 PM
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I think Lauda forgot to say why the OP is a scammer in his negative rating for the OP.

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December 01, 2016, 07:01:27 PM
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You idiots think you can come in here, do whatever you want, apologize and it's all better.   Undecided
It does seem like some think that an apology remedies everything.

I think Lauda forgot to say why the OP is a scammer in his negative rating for the OP.
I think you forgot to say why these people are scammers in your negative ratings for said people.








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December 01, 2016, 10:55:11 PM
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give an opportunity to someone to prove themselves innocent?

You just admitted you were guilty...

And he just apologized for it too which is invisible to most of you guys .

You idiots think you can come in here, do whatever you want, apologize and it's all better.   Undecided

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December 04, 2016, 04:02:33 PM
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I am sorry to everyone, I know and I can understand that breaking rules first and then expecting to be forgiven is not a smart way to deal with the situations, but one should never break the rules itself for not letting such situations occur. I will, however, now take care of this and will never try to break them again. I just wanted to thank you Lauda, and wanted to let you know that I will be on a vacation trip with my friends for few days, so I don't know whether I will be able to come here online or not. Please don't think that I have stopped posting because of the rating, but I had been busy in shopping and will probably be more busy now with my friends, I will start contributing again to the community as soon as I get back. Smiley

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January 15, 2017, 05:38:08 AM
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I got banned from Bitmixer by Lauda for the same reason and that's "Post Burst", all I don't get here is what do they call "burst-posting".
Please check my previous posts and let me know whether I actually "spewed out non-sense"?
Wasn't I on-topic? Didn't I comment thread-specific?
I still don't understand what would have been thought here by you, I mean why did I get into the permanent blacklist, Lauda. Smiley
If I were to make posts just for the sake of payment, then I think that I would have gone for 50 all and not just 12 posts.
I know it has nothing to do with the number of posts that I make, but still, I am not getting it. You guys have allowed users like Amph (just giving an example and no hard feeling for them), who are also posting with a 2-3 minutes difference, so are they posting something extraordinary?
Or was I off-topic there?
Please make me understand and I will improve accordingly, without asking anything more. Smiley

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January 15, 2017, 05:52:25 AM
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OP, your posts are vapid.  I found none of them interesting, and they sound a lot like other posters' whose 1st language is not English.  The posts repeat ideas with too many words and yet with a constricted vocabulary.   You're actually not THAT bad but rapid-fire posting (on bursts) usually doesn't make for good reading and indicates that your motive is to get paid.  But I can't speak for Lauda, obviously.

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January 15, 2017, 08:22:43 AM
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OP, your posts are vapid.  I found none of them interesting, and they sound a lot like other posters' whose 1st language is not English.  The posts repeat ideas with too many words and yet with a constricted vocabulary.   You're actually not THAT bad but rapid-fire posting (on bursts) usually doesn't make for good reading and indicates that your motive is to get paid.  But I can't speak for Lauda, obviously.

Whether vapid or interesting, how can you communicate my posts with others' and say that I repeat the same ideas?
Even if I do, they were not like I saw someone's posts and wrote the whole thing in a different way. I wrote what I had in my mind, and it's definitely not my problem if someone already had, or (will) determine the same ideas further. Is everyone here bound to read the whole thread, even if it consists of more than 40 - 80 pages, would you do it, or I should ask, do you? Though my 1st language isn't English, I am not here to take lessons from you or to have your opinion on whether my English was either good or "not THAT bad". As I already gave my justification here, if I were to post just for the sake of payment, why wouldn't I make the max number, i.e.; 50 posts itself and just 12 out of them? Thought opinion matters here, many people post like me (not talking about posting with speed but their English and mostly either same ideas or copy-paste), but they are never brought down into the court of these Mods, then why me specifically?

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January 15, 2017, 08:44:57 AM
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I got banned from Bitmixer by Lauda for the same reason and that's "Post Burst", all I don't get here is what do they call "burst-posting".
Please check my previous posts and let me know whether I actually "spewed out non-sense"?
Wasn't I on-topic? Didn't I comment thread-specific?
I still don't understand what would have been thought here by you, I mean why did I get into the permanent blacklist, Lauda. Smiley
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I have given you a second chance and you have wasted it. This is no longer a Reputation issue as it does not involve any trust ratings.

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The posts repeat ideas with too many words and yet with a constricted vocabulary.   You're actually not THAT bad but rapid-fire posting (on bursts) usually doesn't make for good reading and indicates that your motive is to get paid.  But I can't speak for Lauda, obviously.
They were busted for this very reason once. They post quality may or may not have improved since then, but this habit is not acceptable. Anyone who is post bursting will be permanently banned from Bitmixer.

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