Man-made global warming = Govt take care me for life

[DD-Lex]

Ah the beauty of global warming! Definitely man made because its us who made this even possible. I mean, we should be taking this seriously. Things will get even worse. I don't want to live in a palnet looking like in the movies Wall-E and Elysium. We should also yry to preserve our natural resources because in the future once its gone, we won't be able to bring it back.

Resources exist to be consumed. If not by this generation, then by some other. I believe we will never stop using fossil fuels but start to use them more frugally.

That means we will always use fossil resources? Will not work. Want it or not but sooner or later fossil fuel reserves will run out and the new will only be through billions of years.

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[Sithara007]

Ah the beauty of global warming! Definitely man made because its us who made this even possible. I mean, we should be taking this seriously. Things will get even worse. I don't want to live in a palnet looking like in the movies Wall-E and Elysium. We should also yry to preserve our natural resources because in the future once its gone, we won't be able to bring it back.

Resources exist to be consumed. If not by this generation, then by some other. I believe we will never stop using fossil fuels but start to use them more frugally.

That means we will always use fossil resources? Will not work. Want it or not but sooner or later fossil fuel reserves will run out and the new will only be through billions of years.

You are absolutely right about the future usage of the fossil fuels. In the distant future, I am sure that we will be switching to an alternative source of energy. This alternative source can be Hydrogen, electricity, or even Uranium.

[iamnotback]

Rationing of vegetables in UK due to global COOLING:

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/climate/extreme-cold-hitting-europe-creating-food-shortages/

Hope the idiots in this thread have recently taken out a mortgage on a home in a northern climate. Lol.

NOAA caught lying and disagreeing with the UN climate "scientists" (corrupted propagandists is more apt description):

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/climate/the-climate-change-the-sun-is-in-a-downward-cycle/

[mainpmf]

Rationing of vegetables in UK due to global COOLING:

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/climate/extreme-cold-hitting-europe-creating-food-shortages/

Hope the idiots in this thread have recently taken out a mortgage on a home in a northern climate. Lol.

NOAA caught lying and disagreeing with the UN climate "scientists" (corrupted propagandists is more apt description):

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/climate/the-climate-change-the-sun-is-in-a-downward-cycle/

Oh look at the little man still having only one poor site as a source. One poor site with article without any reference... That's funny, how can they make so many accusation without bringing anything as a proof?

Look I can make it too:
"Trump is now a proven Alien coming from ZERGTHUS 8!
You don't believe me? Well this is still true!"

There are as many facts in those two sentences than in all the articles you gave :/
And only you is talking about global warming. No one else.
People are talking about climate change. Not global warming.

[iamnotback]

Interesting assertion:

The Southern region like Australia will see it get warmer in summer as Europe gets cooler in the winter. Things are changing much more rapidly ever since the North Pole reversed and changed direction moving at 55 km per year back in 2000.

This is I presume orthogonal to overall cooling of the earth due to the coming Maunder Minimum.

That's funny, how can they make so many accusation without bringing anything as a proof?

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/uncategorized/noaa-continues-to-try-to-justify-its-criminal-activity/

https://nextgrandminimum.wordpress.com/

[BADecker]

A "Mini Ice Age" Is Coming Soon Says Math Professor's Solar Cycle Model That's 97%

A few months ago, NASA published a study showing that Antarctica is actually gaining more ice than it is losing. They made the announcement after using satellites to examine the heights of the region's ice sheet. The findings contradict the prevailing theory that Antarctica has actually been shrinking, however. The paper is titled "Mass gains of the Antarctic ice sheet exceed losses" and was published in the Journal of Glaciology.

Read more at http://globalwarming-arclein.blogspot.ca/2017/02/a-mini-ice-age-is-coming-soon-says-math.html.

[trollercoaster]

Interesting assertion:

The Southern region like Australia will see it get warmer in summer as Europe gets cooler in the winter. Things are changing much more rapidly ever since the North Pole reversed and changed direction moving at 55 km per year back in 2000.

This is I presume orthogonal to overall cooling of the earth due to the coming Maunder Minimum.

That's funny, how can they make so many accusation without bringing anything as a proof?

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/uncategorized/noaa-continues-to-try-to-justify-its-criminal-activity/

True, with the exception of Tasmania and southern Victoria which feels like it has been cooling for the last 18 months, we have had few days above 30°C down here & usually the grass is scorched this time of year, but it is still green 

[iamnotback]

True, with the exception of Tasmania and southern Victoria which feels like it has been cooling for the last 18 months, we have had few days above 30°C down here & usually the grass is scorched this time of year, but it is still green  

I saw a news article it is snowing in Tasmania while the rest of the nation swelters. Will be interesting to see what happens during future winters down under.

Maybe it is an exception below a certain latitude?



Edit: looking at the historical climate of Australia, the warm weather doesn't seem to be abnormal but perhaps the snow in Tasmania in the summer is abnormal:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_Australia

Edit#2: note on Figure 2 on page 3, that as the northern hemisphere warmed up to year 2000 (the year Armstrong says the poles movement abruptly changed direction), the Andes region was cooling, yet since 2000 as the northern hemisphere cools, the Andes region is warming and its neighboring hot regions are moderating to less extremely hot:

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Eric_Chassignet/publication/273740018_Evolution_of_land_surface_air_temperature_trend/links/55413ed20cf23222273155cf.pdf?disableCoverPage=true#page=3

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/05/140504133207.htm

Edit#3: appears the southern South America became colder during the last LIA:

https://www.google.com/search?q=south+america+in+little+ice+age

But the plains and north may have suffered drought and become warmer:

http://www.co2science.org/subject/s/summaries/southamericaiceage.php

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/226676731_The_Little_Ice_Age_in_Southern_South_America_Proxy_and_Model_Based_Evidence

So that seems to be consistent with the pattern of changes @trollercoaster is observing in Australia.

[Sithara007]

True, with the exception of Tasmania and southern Victoria which feels like it has been cooling for the last 18 months, we have had few days above 30°C down here & usually the grass is scorched this time of year, but it is still green 

It may be cooling for the last few months, but no one knows when the next major drought is about to come. Australia has suffered numerous droughts during the past two decades, and I suspect that the main reason for that is climate change.

[trollercoaster]

Yeah natural climate change, the Australian grasslands and deserts dried up long before white fella set foot here..  

[wowanstrong]

True, with the exception of Tasmania and southern Victoria which feels like it has been cooling for the last 18 months, we have had few days above 30°C down here & usually the grass is scorched this time of year, but it is still green 

It may be cooling for the last few months, but no one knows when the next major drought is about to come. Australia has suffered numerous droughts during the past two decades, and I suspect that the main reason for that is climate change.

I don't think so. If warming leads to the fact that the glaciers are melting and rising global sea level, on the contrary, the climate needs to hydrate. At high temperatures, high humidity. Where is all this?

[mainpmf]

Yeah natural climate change, the Australian grasslands and deserts dried up long before white fella set foot here..  

Sure!
But there is something completely unnatural on how fast things are changing and the pace of evolution of those changes...
Sure it's also a natural change, but natural change can't go so fast!

[bryant.coleman]

True, with the exception of Tasmania and southern Victoria which feels like it has been cooling for the last 18 months, we have had few days above 30°C down here & usually the grass is scorched this time of year, but it is still green 

It may be cooling for the last few months, but no one knows when the next major drought is about to come. Australia has suffered numerous droughts during the past two decades, and I suspect that the main reason for that is climate change.

I don't think so. If warming leads to the fact that the glaciers are melting and rising global sea level, on the contrary, the climate needs to hydrate. At high temperatures, high humidity. Where is all this?

High temperature means a higher saturation point for water vapour. So more amount of water vapour will be held in the atmosphere. But eventually, this water vapour will be converted into rain or snow. But the problem is that rain occurs only where a stream of water vapor meets with cold air. Such regions exist mostly along the tropical forests. So for the other areas, there will not be any noticeable change in the rainfall.

[ovvidiy]

True, with the exception of Tasmania and southern Victoria which feels like it has been cooling for the last 18 months, we have had few days above 30°C down here & usually the grass is scorched this time of year, but it is still green 

It may be cooling for the last few months, but no one knows when the next major drought is about to come. Australia has suffered numerous droughts during the past two decades, and I suspect that the main reason for that is climate change.

I don't think so. If warming leads to the fact that the glaciers are melting and rising global sea level, on the contrary, the climate needs to hydrate. At high temperatures, high humidity. Where is all this?

High temperature means a higher saturation point for water vapour. So more amount of water vapour will be held in the atmosphere. But eventually, this water vapour will be converted into rain or snow. But the problem is that rain occurs only where a stream of water vapor meets with cold air. Such regions exist mostly along the tropical forests. So for the other areas, there will not be any noticeable change in the rainfall.

In fact, flows of cold air can be a lot. This is due to the wind and rivers, seas and oceans, and forests. The rain will be everywhere. Besides rise of the groundwater level. I just don't see it.

[trollercoaster]

Yeah natural climate change, the Australian grasslands and deserts dried up long before white fella set foot here..  

Sure!
But there is something completely unnatural on how fast things are changing and the pace of evolution of those changes...
Sure it's also a natural change, but natural change can't go so fast!

Nonsense, it is completely natural, extreme droughts followed by flooding year to year is nothing new.
http://abc.net.au/news/2014-02-26/100-years-of-drought/5282030

[chachaa]

Yeah natural climate change, the Australian grasslands and deserts dried up long before white fella set foot here..  

Sure!
But there is something completely unnatural on how fast things are changing and the pace of evolution of those changes...
Sure it's also a natural change, but natural change can't go so fast!

Nonsense, it is completely natural, extreme droughts followed by flooding year to year is nothing new.
http://abc.net.au/news/2014-02-26/100-years-of-drought/5282030

I also agree with you. I don't see any climate change. Really where ruthlessly cut down forests there are problems with the consequences of natural disasters, but it is not associated with any global warming. People are to blame.

[youdamushi]

Yeah natural climate change, the Australian grasslands and deserts dried up long before white fella set foot here..  

Sure!
But there is something completely unnatural on how fast things are changing and the pace of evolution of those changes...
Sure it's also a natural change, but natural change can't go so fast!

Nonsense, it is completely natural, extreme droughts followed by flooding year to year is nothing new.
http://abc.net.au/news/2014-02-26/100-years-of-drought/5282030

I also agree with you. I don't see any climate change. Really where ruthlessly cut down forests there are problems with the consequences of natural disasters, but it is not associated with any global warming. People are to blame.

People are to blame.
That's the main problem.
That's what they all refuse to hear.
That THEY (WE) are the problem and that we are responsible for all that's happening.
But until tornados become a daily phenomenon on the White House they won't see the reality.

[mainpmf]

Yeah natural climate change, the Australian grasslands and deserts dried up long before white fella set foot here..  

Sure!
But there is something completely unnatural on how fast things are changing and the pace of evolution of those changes...
Sure it's also a natural change, but natural change can't go so fast!

Nonsense, it is completely natural, extreme droughts followed by flooding year to year is nothing new.
http://abc.net.au/news/2014-02-26/100-years-of-drought/5282030

Few things:
-It seems to me that the recent maps have a lot of "highest" or "lowest" records
-I'm not sure what you're showing is the best way to have anything accurate, there isn't a single begining of actual data just rough estimations of high and low
-I don't know if considering droughts and floods are the best way to consider the impact of climate change

[Aikonio]

Yeah natural climate change, the Australian grasslands and deserts dried up long before white fella set foot here..  

Sure!
But there is something completely unnatural on how fast things are changing and the pace of evolution of those changes...
Sure it's also a natural change, but natural change can't go so fast!

Nonsense, it is completely natural, extreme droughts followed by flooding year to year is nothing new.
http://abc.net.au/news/2014-02-26/100-years-of-drought/5282030

Few things:
-It seems to me that the recent maps have a lot of "highest" or "lowest" records
-I'm not sure what you're showing is the best way to have anything accurate, there isn't a single begining of actual data just rough estimations of high and low
-I don't know if considering droughts and floods are the best way to consider the impact of climate change

And you thought about the fact that such effects from natural disasters are associated not only with global warming but with the fact that people are ruthlessly destroying the forest. Maybe this is the reason?

[youdamushi]

And you thought about the fact that such effects from natural disasters are associated not only with global warming but with the fact that people are ruthlessly destroying the forest. Maybe this is the reason?

Only the idiots are talking about global warming.
They're mainly people being huge climate deniers that yell that "global warming" makes no sense and is a false theory.
They're perfectly right. That's why any intelligent person talks about climate change, which is a phenomenon whose causes are varied and numerous. Deforestation being one of them.