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December 04, 2016, 04:42:41 PM
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Now when Trump won over Pro-WW3 Elite and Nato might become obsolete or at least weaker, Russia, EU and USA have a chance to create a new, more stable security system for Europe.
What aspects should be taken into consideration and what kind of territorial changes would be necessary? Please, use reasoning and objective argumentation in your answers. No emotional nonsense.
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December 04, 2016, 05:14:09 PM
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Now when Trump won over Pro-WW3 Elite and Nato might become obsolete or at least weaker, Russia, EU and USA have a chance to create a new, more stable security system for Europe.
What aspects should be taken into consideration and what kind of territorial changes would be necessary? Please, use reasoning and objective argumentation in your answers. No emotional nonsense.

T don't think there would be any territorial changes if that was the case, creating the EU,US,RUS partnership. RUS and Ukraine are fighting over Crimea but I don't see any other problems of that scale. There are also problems with Kosovo, Catallonia, anda few more where these three sides (EU,US,RUS) are conflicting with recognizing Kosovo or not.

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December 05, 2016, 11:06:35 AM
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Now when Trump won over Pro-WW3 Elite and Nato might become obsolete or at least weaker, Russia, EU and USA have a chance to create a new, more stable security system for Europe.
What aspects should be taken into consideration and what kind of territorial changes would be necessary? Please, use reasoning and objective argumentation in your answers. No emotional nonsense.

T don't think there would be any territorial changes if that was the case, creating the EU,US,RUS partnership. RUS and Ukraine are fighting over Crimea but I don't see any other problems of that scale. There are also problems with Kosovo, Catallonia, anda few more where these three sides (EU,US,RUS) are conflicting with recognizing Kosovo or not.
In Russia, deceitful and aggressive totalitarian regime. None of the democratic countries will not agree to cooperate with him. In the early 90s Russia had a chance to change, but she didn't. Now it will suffer the fate of the Soviet Union.

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December 05, 2016, 01:27:36 PM
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Now when Trump won over Pro-WW3 Elite and Nato might become obsolete or at least weaker, Russia, EU and USA have a chance to create a new, more stable security system for Europe.
What aspects should be taken into consideration and what kind of territorial changes would be necessary? Please, use reasoning and objective argumentation in your answers. No emotional nonsense.

T don't think there would be any territorial changes if that was the case, creating the EU,US,RUS partnership. RUS and Ukraine are fighting over Crimea but I don't see any other problems of that scale. There are also problems with Kosovo, Catallonia, anda few more where these three sides (EU,US,RUS) are conflicting with recognizing Kosovo or not.
In Russia, deceitful and aggressive totalitarian regime. None of the democratic countries will not agree to cooperate with him. In the early 90s Russia had a chance to change, but she didn't. Now it will suffer the fate of the Soviet Union.

You just keep copy pasting stuff that's being pushed into your head by the "social engineering media". I'm not saying there's no propaganda in Russia or China, but try to see things from an objective point of view.
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December 05, 2016, 01:31:21 PM
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Now when Trump won over Pro-WW3 Elite and Nato might become obsolete or at least weaker, Russia, EU and USA have a chance to create a new, more stable security system for Europe.
What aspects should be taken into consideration and what kind of territorial changes would be necessary? Please, use reasoning and objective argumentation in your answers. No emotional nonsense.

T don't think there would be any territorial changes if that was the case, creating the EU,US,RUS partnership. RUS and Ukraine are fighting over Crimea but I don't see any other problems of that scale. There are also problems with Kosovo, Catallonia, anda few more where these three sides (EU,US,RUS) are conflicting with recognizing Kosovo or not.
In Russia, deceitful and aggressive totalitarian regime. None of the democratic countries will not agree to cooperate with him. In the early 90s Russia had a chance to change, but she didn't. Now it will suffer the fate of the Soviet Union.

Like it's not the other way around too. The only deceitful, aggreaive and totalitarian regime there ia now is in North Korea. Also, you think that countries that are in conflict with Russia ain't spreasing false word? Cmon, dude... Thats pretty normal.

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December 05, 2016, 03:42:34 PM
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Now when Trump won over Pro-WW3 Elite and Nato might become obsolete or at least weaker, Russia, EU and USA have a chance to create a new, more stable security system for Europe.
What aspects should be taken into consideration and what kind of territorial changes would be necessary? Please, use reasoning and objective argumentation in your answers. No emotional nonsense.
There is no such thing as ''Pro- WW3''' elite.
I agree that Nato will become weaker because America will lost political interest for Europe but this is not wise politics.
Nato can't survive without support from USA but also America need Europe.
Russia and China hate America and investing a lot in their army.
If America leave Syria and Iraq, China and Russia will overtake it.
Such politics will lead to isolation of America in the world.
American companies need European market and vice versa.
Europe and America should work together in order to solve very complicate political and economic issues in the world, unless Trump thinks that he should talk with Russia and china and left Europe.
Such politics created conditions for WWI and WWII in the past.



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December 05, 2016, 04:42:21 PM
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There is no such thing as ''Pro- WW3''' elite.

There is no doubt that if Hillary was elected as the president of the United States, then the possibility of a WW3 could have zoomed up by hundreds of times. So he is right to refer the Clinton crime family as the "Pro-WW3 elite". You don't need to believe me.... but you can at least listen to Dr. Jill Stein, who happens to be another radical leftist.

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December 05, 2016, 04:47:11 PM
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Now when Trump won over Pro-WW3 Elite and Nato might become obsolete or at least weaker, Russia, EU and USA have a chance to create a new, more stable security system for Europe.
What aspects should be taken into consideration and what kind of territorial changes would be necessary? Please, use reasoning and objective argumentation in your answers. No emotional nonsense.
There is no such thing as ''Pro- WW3''' elite.
I agree that Nato will become weaker because America will lost political interest for Europe but this is not wise politics.
Nato can't survive without support from USA but also America need Europe.
Russia and China hate America and investing a lot in their army.
If America leave Syria and Iraq, China and Russia will overtake it.
Such politics will lead to isolation of America in the world.
American companies need European market and vice versa.
Europe and America should work together in order to solve very complicate political and economic issues in the world, unless Trump thinks that he should talk with Russia and china and left Europe.
Such politics created conditions for WWI and WWII in the past.




I don't think that Russia is just waiting for US to leave Syria just to move in asap.
No one will be excluded, Trump will be working to fix the relationships with EU and Russia for the better future fixing of the problems.

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December 07, 2016, 01:04:48 PM
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Now when Trump won over Pro-WW3 Elite and Nato might become obsolete or at least weaker, Russia, EU and USA have a chance to create a new, more stable security system for Europe.
What aspects should be taken into consideration and what kind of territorial changes would be necessary? Please, use reasoning and objective argumentation in your answers. No emotional nonsense.
There is no such thing as ''Pro- WW3''' elite.
I agree that Nato will become weaker because America will lost political interest for Europe but this is not wise politics.
Nato can't survive without support from USA but also America need Europe.
Russia and China hate America and investing a lot in their army.
If America leave Syria and Iraq, China and Russia will overtake it.
Such politics will lead to isolation of America in the world.
American companies need European market and vice versa.
Europe and America should work together in order to solve very complicate political and economic issues in the world, unless Trump thinks that he should talk with Russia and china and left Europe.
Such politics created conditions for WWI and WWII in the past.



Russian can give up the dream about the collapse of NATO, and that Trump would change in any way the relations to Russia. Everyone knows what this aggressive country. Trump will achieve the collapse of Russia even faster than it would the Democrats.

I don't think that Russia is just waiting for US to leave Syria just to move in asap.
No one will be excluded, Trump will be working to fix the relationships with EU and Russia for the better future fixing of the problems.
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December 07, 2016, 05:55:59 PM
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Now when Trump won over Pro-WW3 Elite and Nato might become obsolete or at least weaker, Russia, EU and USA have a chance to create a new, more stable security system for Europe.
What aspects should be taken into consideration and what kind of territorial changes would be necessary? Please, use reasoning and objective argumentation in your answers. No emotional nonsense.
There is no such thing as ''Pro- WW3''' elite.
I agree that Nato will become weaker because America will lost political interest for Europe but this is not wise politics.
Nato can't survive without support from USA but also America need Europe.
Russia and China hate America and investing a lot in their army.
If America leave Syria and Iraq, China and Russia will overtake it.
Such politics will lead to isolation of America in the world.
American companies need European market and vice versa.
Europe and America should work together in order to solve very complicate political and economic issues in the world, unless Trump thinks that he should talk with Russia and china and left Europe.
Such politics created conditions for WWI and WWII in the past.



Russian can give up the dream about the collapse of NATO, and that Trump would change in any way the relations to Russia. Everyone knows what this aggressive country. Trump will achieve the collapse of Russia even faster than it would the Democrats.

I don't think that Russia is just waiting for US to leave Syria just to move in asap.
No one will be excluded, Trump will be working to fix the relationships with EU and Russia for the better future fixing of the problems.
That Russia dreams about leaving Syria, the us troops can not even doubt. I think that the Americans will not give Russian the reason for such joy. Yes, and I think that America's interests can only suffer.
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December 08, 2016, 09:01:24 PM
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Never Europe would not cooperate in the sphere of its security with Russia. Either with America or without it, but Europe will be United against Russia. If Trump tries to bring America out of NATO is going to hurt in the first place America.
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December 09, 2016, 12:58:26 AM
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Now when Trump won over Pro-WW3 Elite and Nato might become obsolete or at least weaker, Russia, EU and USA have a chance to create a new, more stable security system for Europe.
What aspects should be taken into consideration and what kind of territorial changes would be necessary? Please, use reasoning and objective argumentation in your answers. No emotional nonsense.

T don't think there would be any territorial changes if that was the case, creating the EU,US,RUS partnership. RUS and Ukraine are fighting over Crimea but I don't see any other problems of that scale. There are also problems with Kosovo, Catallonia, anda few more where these three sides (EU,US,RUS) are conflicting with recognizing Kosovo or not.
In Russia, deceitful and aggressive totalitarian regime. None of the democratic countries will not agree to cooperate with him. In the early 90s Russia had a chance to change, but she didn't. Now it will suffer the fate of the Soviet Union.

Like it's not the other way around too. The only deceitful, aggreaive and totalitarian regime there ia now is in North Korea. Also, you think that countries that are in conflict with Russia ain't spreasing false word? Cmon, dude... Thats pretty normal.

Trump won over Pro-terrorism business elites to be exact. They were selling terrorism to their own people.

But Trump again is a stupid hypocrite. He would surely make US a less important member to talk about global security.

There is no use of NATO now. It was just an cold war time anti-soviet pact. Countries and military can work together anyway when needed.

South Eastern Europe is always a volatile zone. There were many nations and borders in that zone in the history. They don't have much hard feeling about Nationality. US with its power and money played with that area. When unchecked, Russia would play with them. You should not be surprised to see Ukraine parliament being bought by Russia.


 



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December 09, 2016, 01:38:46 PM
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Now when Trump won over Pro-WW3 Elite and Nato might become obsolete or at least weaker, Russia, EU and USA have a chance to create a new, more stable security system for Europe.
What aspects should be taken into consideration and what kind of territorial changes would be necessary? Please, use reasoning and objective argumentation in your answers. No emotional nonsense.

T don't think there would be any territorial changes if that was the case, creating the EU,US,RUS partnership. RUS and Ukraine are fighting over Crimea but I don't see any other problems of that scale. There are also problems with Kosovo, Catallonia, anda few more where these three sides (EU,US,RUS) are conflicting with recognizing Kosovo or not.
In Russia, deceitful and aggressive totalitarian regime. None of the democratic countries will not agree to cooperate with him. In the early 90s Russia had a chance to change, but she didn't. Now it will suffer the fate of the Soviet Union.

Like it's not the other way around too. The only deceitful, aggreaive and totalitarian regime there ia now is in North Korea. Also, you think that countries that are in conflict with Russia ain't spreasing false word? Cmon, dude... Thats pretty normal.

Trump won over Pro-terrorism business elites to be exact. They were selling terrorism to their own people.

But Trump again is a stupid hypocrite. He would surely make US a less important member to talk about global security.

There is no use of NATO now. It was just an cold war time anti-soviet pact. Countries and military can work together anyway when needed.

South Eastern Europe is always a volatile zone. There were many nations and borders in that zone in the history. They don't have much hard feeling about Nationality. US with its power and money played with that area. When unchecked, Russia would play with them. You should not be surprised to see Ukraine parliament being bought by Russia.


 
Do in the Parliament of Ukraine, many corrupt deputies. The legacy of the Soviet Union and the poverty of the population allows them to come into power and loot the state, but sold in Russia they will not allow people.
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