Ballon d'Or discussion and odds

[arimamib]

Benzema really deserved this award. He played excellent football alone, helped them win many critical matches and thanks to him, his team won trophies. I think he was the most valuable player of the last year, and he was at the age where many players retire while doing all this.
He's still doing great and I think he'll be very successful this season as well. Benzema is to be congratulated

There may be some who disagree about decision, but I think the decision by the committee is fair. After the dominance of Messi and Ronaldo in the previous few years. Their performance has declined and Benzema is currently indeed a key player for Madrid and performing well. He became the key to madrid champions of the UCL and The League in the last year. Even Madrid also placed Thibaut Courtois with the Yashin Trophy for Best Goalkeeper.

Thanks to his outstanding contribution last season with Real Madrid, Benzema deserves to win the award. No other player has surpassed Benzema mark last season, he has helped Real Madrid to several prestigious titles.

The committee has done an excellent job, every player who was nominated and who managed to win an award for his contribution to the club. There is nothing wrong with the committee's decision, they have worked very professionally.

[Despairo]

If Real Madrid vs Manchester City was an easy win for Real Madrid, I would say Courtois is really deserve to get Ballon d'Or but since Benzema is the key who carrying Real Madrid won against Manchester City, there's no reason for me to disagree Benzema is get the Ballon d'Or.

I think if Messi and Ronaldo can still play like when they was still in prime, it will be very hard to choose which one is more deserved to get Ballon d'Or. Few last years ago, I think Lewandowski and Neymar was more deserve to get Ballon d'Or rather than Messi or Ronaldo.

[masulum]

There may be some who disagree about decision, but I think the decision by the committee is fair. After the dominance of Messi and Ronaldo in the previous few years. Their performance has declined and Benzema is currently indeed a key player for Madrid and performing well.

Benzema is a player who never gives up, he always proves that he has qualities worthy of attention by coaches. His career almost sank when he was in the same team with CR7. but he didn't give up on his situation. CR7's departure from Madrid give him a good place to prove everything. Zidane's role is important too, because he entrusted the front line to Benzema without any doubts at all.

[Boristhecat]

Benzema really deserved this award. He played excellent football alone, helped them win many critical matches and thanks to him, his team won trophies. I think he was the most valuable player of the last year, and he was at the age where many players retire while doing all this.
He's still doing great and I think he'll be very successful this season as well. Benzema is to be congratulated

He seems to be the oldest recipient of the award since 1956. A cool achievement even considering that modern medicine has gone very far ahead and modern players have more opportunities to extend their professional career. On the other hand, now the competition is undoubtedly higher, in those years the player was not purely professional, when the players devoted themselves to one thing all their lives since childhood.

[royalfestus]

Benzema really deserved this award. He played excellent football alone, helped them win many critical matches and thanks to him, his team won trophies. I think he was the most valuable player of the last year, and he was at the age where many players retire while doing all this.
He's still doing great and I think he'll be very successful this season as well. Benzema is to be congratulated

He seems to be the oldest recipient of the award since 1956. A cool achievement even considering that modern medicine has gone very far ahead and modern players have more opportunities to extend their professional career. On the other hand, now the competition is undoubtedly higher, in those years the player was not purely professional, when the players devoted themselves to one thing all their lives since childhood.

Ronaldo and Messi reign has denied many good players the opportunity to compete for that award, think of Arjen Robben, Robert Lewandowski, etc. Actually, Benzema has done so much that he has been mentioned everywhere. If he hadn't been given the award, there would have been controversy. Ronaldo and Messi's decline can be attributed to their conceit and changing clubs. It is my hope that from now on we will have new players

[Josefjix]

Karim Benzema us the perfect man for Ballon d'Or this season because he has much credits both in Laliga and UEFEA. He's the leading top 9 for the los blancos and had delivered many chances for the team interms of comeback wins and back-to-back hattricks in UEFEA which sealed them to the final. Some fans say he's not too sharp with footing but I trust him because he knows how to position infront of goal and he always give real madrid hope when all hope is lost. Carlo Ancelotti recommend him for the team and they will work to extend his contract with the club.

[KTChampions]

Ronaldo and Messi reign has denied many good players the opportunity to compete for that award, think of Arjen Robben, Robert Lewandowski, etc. Actually, Benzema has done so much that he has been mentioned everywhere. If he hadn't been given the award, there would have been controversy. Ronaldo and Messi's decline can be attributed to their conceit and changing clubs. It is my hope that from now on we will have new players

The reign of Ronaldo and Messi was largely not due to their personal qualities, but to corrupt officials who stole awards from Xavi, Iniesta, Sneijder, Forlan (and many who no one will remember anymore) in favor of Messi. Ronaldo got his awards not thanks to officials, but in spite of them (recall his conflict with Blatter). Now they are already very old, so they do not participate in the fight for this award. Let's see with what honesty the prizes will be distributed in the future.

[nara1892]

Benzema really deserved this award. He played excellent football alone, helped them win many critical matches and thanks to him, his team won trophies. I think he was the most valuable player of the last year, and he was at the age where many players retire while doing all this.
He's still doing great and I think he'll be very successful this season as well. Benzema is to be congratulated

Indeed, Real Madrid's success last season could not be separated from the great contribution that Benzema dedicated to Real Madrid and it was an extraordinary season for him. This award deserves to be bestowed upon him. Now he has successfully recorded one of the awards that many players want. And the award for him is not much debated because he really deserves this award. Congratulations to Benzema who won the award, hopefully this will be a motivation for him to navigate this season.

[Franctoshi]

The reign of Ronaldo and Messi was largely not due to their personal qualities, but to corrupt officials who stole awards from Xavi, Iniesta, Sneijder, Forlan (and many who no one will remember anymore) in favor of Messi. Ronaldo got his awards not thanks to officials, but in spite of them (recall his conflict with Blatter)

I somewhat agree with you regarding that of Sneijder Ballon d'Or award denial in 2010, Was where I do think that something was fishy with that very award, Then Sneijder really deserve that very award because he met all the requirements needed to be given world best player and was ahead of Messi for that particular award as at that time and this is where I agree with you.

While for that of Xavi, Iniesta and Diego Forlan, Yes that time these players were very good to win ballon d'Or but Lionel Messi at that was better than the trios in all round, remember that Messi was given those awards base on his performance.

[KTChampions]

The reign of Ronaldo and Messi was largely not due to their personal qualities, but to corrupt officials who stole awards from Xavi, Iniesta, Sneijder, Forlan (and many who no one will remember anymore) in favor of Messi. Ronaldo got his awards not thanks to officials, but in spite of them (recall his conflict with Blatter)

I somewhat agree with you regarding that of Sneijder Ballon d'Or award denial in 2010, Was where I do think that something was fishy with that very award, Then Sneijder really deserve that very award because he met all the requirements needed to be given world best player and was ahead of Messi for that particular award as at that time and this is where I agree with you.

While for that of Xavi, Iniesta and Diego Forlan, Yes that time these players were very good to win ballon d'Or but Lionel Messi at that was better than the trios in all round, remember that Messi was given those awards base on his performance.

Sorry, what you say is contrary to the facts.
Let's take the simplest example: Xavi and Iniesta in the period 2008-2012 won everything that Messi did at the club level plus they won two European Championships and the World Cup - this is the greatest achievement in history. Messi during this time failed first at the World Cup and then at the America's Cup. At the same time, during this period, Messi received 4 Ballon D'or but Xavi and Iniesta - zero 
Messi is nothing more than a product of corrupt officials.

[Davidvictorson]

Karim Benzema us the perfect man for Ballon d'Or this season because he has much credits both in Laliga and UEFEA. He's the leading top 9 for the los blancos and had delivered many chances for the team interms of comeback wins and back-to-back hattricks in UEFEA which sealed them to the final. Some fans say he's not too sharp with footing but I trust him because he knows how to position infront of goal and he always give real madrid hope when all hope is lost. Carlo Ancelotti recommend him for the team and they will work to extend his contract with the club.

Happy for Karim, who has such a quiet and reserved nature off the field yet is a deadly striker and a very intelligent player on the field. I remember when he joined Real Madrid from Lyon, and at the time, Cristiano was the star player. Of course, most football fans have been rooting for him to win the Ballon d'Or. Last season he demonstrated the peak of Karim's abilities, and even though many people doubted him, he still managed to lead Real Madrid.

[el kaka22]

I am not entirely sure if Ronaldo and Messi didn't deserve their awards. I mean maybe you can find a few seasons where other players did have a good season, but these are the people who had 80+ g/a seasons multiple times, they are just unreal and can't be beaten.

Let me put it this way on how good Ronaldo is, we all talked about how haaland would need to score like 40+ goals a year for 15+ seasons to reach his goal count, that should be good enough, messi didn't score as much, but he had more assists, so the g/a rate is even higher. So that is the difference, they got the awards because they were consistently the best players each year, maybe 1-2 seasons could go either way, but it would still be 10+ combined for sure.

[Rruchi man]

Let's see with what honesty the prizes will be distributed in the future.

Many persons to do not believe the credibility of this award and the opinion they have is that it is plagued with partiality and biasness. For instance there has been a lot of expressed dissatisfaction to the award given to Gavi, where others believed that the most eligible for that award in that category was Camavinga who was a super sub and was very influential to Real Madrid's last season success, then why was the best team Manchester city and not Real Madrid which had one of the most difficult fixtures last season in the UCL but we're still able to pull through even when they looked at a disadvantage, they showed great team spirit and should have been awarded for it.

[Franctoshi]

The reign of Ronaldo and Messi was largely not due to their personal qualities, but to corrupt officials who stole awards from Xavi, Iniesta, Sneijder, Forlan (and many who no one will remember anymore) in favor of Messi. Ronaldo got his awards not thanks to officials, but in spite of them (recall his conflict with Blatter)

I somewhat agree with you regarding that of Sneijder Ballon d'Or award denial in 2010, Was where I do think that something was fishy with that very award, Then Sneijder really deserve that very award because he met all the requirements needed to be given world best player and was ahead of Messi for that particular award as at that time and this is where I agree with you.

While for that of Xavi, Iniesta and Diego Forlan, Yes that time these players were very good to win ballon d'Or but Lionel Messi at that was better than the trios in all round, remember that Messi was given those awards base on his performance.

Sorry, what you say is contrary to the facts.
Let's take the simplest example: Xavi and Iniesta in the period 2008-2012 won everything that Messi did at the club level plus they won two European Championships and the World Cup - this is the greatest achievement in history. Messi during this time failed first at the World Cup and then at the America's Cup. At the same time, during this period, Messi received 4 Ballon D'or but Xavi and Iniesta - zero 
Messi is nothing more than a product of corrupt officials.

Yes that was a collective effort by Xavi and Iniesta for world cup, but you failed to look at it base on individual performances ,while then Messi, Xavi, Iniesta were in same club and all won the European champions. I do think this award is more focused on individual performances first maybe 70%, and plus the trophy, that is what the player did single handedly.

For instance, scoring goals that won a game ,assists, free kicks and penalties won by this individual player,  creativity, passes and a lot more in various compitions.These are things you put into consideration before judging, not just only base on wining the trophy.
Therefore my opinion here is that base on individual performances, Messi was better, just that people easily forgets things and how incredible Lionel Messi were in those days.

[Docnaster]

The reign of Ronaldo and Messi was largely not due to their personal qualities, but to corrupt officials who stole awards from Xavi, Iniesta, Sneijder, Forlan (and many who no one will remember anymore) in favor of Messi. Ronaldo got his awards not thanks to officials, but in spite of them (recall his conflict with Blatter)

I somewhat agree with you regarding that of Sneijder Ballon d'Or award denial in 2010, Was where I do think that something was fishy with that very award, Then Sneijder really deserve that very award because he met all the requirements needed to be given world best player and was ahead of Messi for that particular award as at that time and this is where I agree with you.

While for that of Xavi, Iniesta and Diego Forlan, Yes that time these players were very good to win ballon d'Or but Lionel Messi at that was better than the trios in all round, remember that Messi was given those awards base on his performance.

Sorry, what you say is contrary to the facts.
Let's take the simplest example: Xavi and Iniesta in the period 2008-2012 won everything that Messi did at the club level plus they won two European Championships and the World Cup - this is the greatest achievement in history. Messi during this time failed first at the World Cup and then at the America's Cup. At the same time, during this period, Messi received 4 Ballon D'or but Xavi and Iniesta - zero 
Messi is nothing more than a product of corrupt officials.

Yes that was a collective effort by Xavi and Iniesta for world cup, but you failed to look at it base on individual performances ,while then Messi, Xavi, Iniesta were in same club and all won the European champions. I do think this award is more focused on individual performances first maybe 70%, and plus the trophy, that is what the player did single handedly.

For instance, scoring goals that won a game ,assists, free kicks and penalties won,  creativity, passes a lot more in various compitions , these are things you put into consideration before you judge,  not only base on wining the trophy, Therefore my opinion here is that individual performances , Messi was better, just that people easily forgets things and how incredible Lionel Messi were in those days.

Individual performance is not only to score goals. Have you forgotten who Iniesta was in Barcelona team? The engine room and play maker? Messi in some occasions didn't deserve the awards, the officials were corrupt. The person that mentioned Sneijder, Forlan, Xavi, Iniesta forgot to mention the duo in the Bundesliga as of then; Robben and Ribery. Tbh football was not fair to these legends, we owe them apologies.

[Franctoshi]

Yes that was a collective effort by Xavi and Iniesta for world cup, but you failed to look at it base on individual performances ,while then Messi, Xavi, Iniesta were in same club and all won the European champions. I do think this award is more focused on individual performances first maybe 70%, and plus the trophy, that is what the player did single handedly.

For instance, scoring goals that won a game ,assists, free kicks and penalties won,  creativity, passes a lot more in various compitions , these are things you put into consideration before you judge,  not only base on wining the trophy, Therefore my opinion here is that individual performances , Messi was better, just that people easily forgets things and how incredible Lionel Messi were in those days.

Individual performance is not only to score goals. Have you forgotten who Iniesta was in Barcelona team? The engine room and play maker? Messi in some occasions didn't deserve the awards, the officials were corrupt. The person that mentioned Sneijder, Forlan, Xavi, Iniesta forgot to mention the duo in the Bundesliga as of then; Robben and Ribery. Tbh football was not fair to these legends, we owe them apologies.

@Doncaster, Look at my points very well I did not say that only goal scoring was the main job here and literally Messi then was not only a goal scoring player and too I do not discredit the fact that this players were good but in the midst of good people (players), someone is better and which was Messi, I'm talking from the point of being a player not just mere talk. The difference is clear and you can go back to history, maybe try to watch best of these players in those seasons, you could get a clearer picture of what I'm trying to say.

[KTChampions]

Sorry, what you say is contrary to the facts.
Let's take the simplest example: Xavi and Iniesta in the period 2008-2012 won everything that Messi did at the club level plus they won two European Championships and the World Cup - this is the greatest achievement in history. Messi during this time failed first at the World Cup and then at the America's Cup. At the same time, during this period, Messi received 4 Ballon D'or but Xavi and Iniesta - zero 
Messi is nothing more than a product of corrupt officials.

Yes that was a collective effort by Xavi and Iniesta for world cup, but you failed to look at it base on individual performances ,while then Messi, Xavi, Iniesta were in same club and all won the European champions. I do think this award is more focused on individual performances first maybe 70%, and plus the trophy, that is what the player did single handedly.

For instance, scoring goals that won a game ,assists, free kicks and penalties won by this individual player,  creativity, passes and a lot more in various compitions.These are things you put into consideration before judging, not just only base on wining the trophy.
Therefore my opinion here is that base on individual performances, Messi was better, just that people easily forgets things and how incredible Lionel Messi were in those days.

Why do you keep writing nonsense? I wrote objective facts - it's impossible to dispute, it's not a matter of taste, it's simple mathematics 2x2=4. When we compare Messi with Forlan, Sneijder, Ribery, Neuer, etc. then it is difficult for us to separate the individual from the team, since all players play in different conditions and in different positions. But when we compare Messi with Xavi and Iniesta, there is nothing to argue about - Messi without Xavi and Iniesta was zero, and Xavi and Iniesta without Messi won two European Championships + World Championships in a row. At the same time, Messi received 4 Ballon D'ors, and Xavi and Iniesta zero! This is the biggest clowning I have ever seen 

[bitcampaign]

The photo above was in 2015, where Benzema's teammates, Toni Kroos, Cristiano Ronaldo, Sergio Ramos and Jamez Rodrigues received awards. Benzema who was right behind them could only support and celebrate.

The photo below, in 2022. This morning, Karim Benzema won his first Ballon D'or.

And in 2022, Benzema has lifted 3 trophies at once, namely:

1. UEFA Champions League
2. Ballon d'Or
3. La Liga

[Boristhecat]

He seems to be the oldest recipient of the award since 1956. A cool achievement even considering that modern medicine has gone very far ahead and modern players have more opportunities to extend their professional career. On the other hand, now the competition is undoubtedly higher, in those years the player was not purely professional, when the players devoted themselves to one thing all their lives since childhood.

Ronaldo and Messi reign has denied many good players the opportunity to compete for that award, think of Arjen Robben, Robert Lewandowski, etc. Actually, Benzema has done so much that he has been mentioned everywhere. If he hadn't been given the award, there would have been controversy. Ronaldo and Messi's decline can be attributed to their conceit and changing clubs. It is my hope that from now on we will have new players

This is a common thing in sports - only a few remain in people's memory, although there are always a huge number of worthy and great athletes. For example, I am sure that few of the modern generation will be able to name at least a couple of Pele's partners, although they were the greatest players. After the era of Ronaldo-Messi, it looks like there will be an era of Haaland-Mbappe, and already in the next era, it is unlikely that anyone will remember Ronaldo and Messi strongly (except for old people, of course, for whom all the best remains in youth/maturity).

[Oluwa-btc]

I am not entirely sure if Ronaldo and Messi didn't deserve their awards. I mean maybe you can find a few seasons where other players did have a good season, but these are the people who had 80+ g/a seasons multiple times, they are just unreal and can't be beaten.

Let me put it this way on how good Ronaldo is, we all talked about how haaland would need to score like 40+ goals a year for 15+ seasons to reach his goal count, that should be good enough, messi didn't score as much, but he had more assists, so the g/a rate is even higher. So that is the difference, they got the awards because they were consistently the best players each year, maybe 1-2 seasons could go either way, but it would still be 10+ combined for sure.

I see nothing wrong with all you've said here. Both Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi deserves those Ballon d'or awards,in exception of Lionel Messi winning twice, during the time Sneidjer the Dutch Captain and international, won the Champions League and also got so close to the winning the Fifa World Cup but Spain triumphed with the help of late winner Andreas Inesta. Lastly, during the season Lewandoski should have also emerged winner, that was simply and clearly robbery.

But in terms of consistency, scoring back to back goals for over ten plus years, Both Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo really made history, they deserve all of those appreciations as the world of football will sure miss them both. Barcelona made it easy for Lionel Messi, but Ronaldo has done across three club's, if not four, they are 🐐's.