Ballon d'Or discussion and odds

[Vinaa77]

Barcelona made it easy for Lionel Messi, but Ronaldo has done across three club's, if not four, they are 🐐's.

Yes. Maybe there is a difference between Lionel Messi and Ronaldo. Lionel Messi had a brilliant career at Barcelona, while at PSG Lionel Messi was no longer as good as he was at Barcelona. Ronaldo has played in several clubs. His first career at Manchester United made Real Madrid sign him. He had a brilliant career at Real Madrid. I think this cannot be separated from the help of Marcelo, Mesut Ozil and others. But for now, the names of Ronaldo and Messi seem to be slowly being replaced.

Maybe the name Robert Lewandowski will appear in the future, but this really depends on the Champions League. But for now, the names of Ronaldo and Messi seem to be slowly being replaced. Maybe the name Robert Lewandowski will appear in the future, but this really depends on the Champions League. But we know Real Madrid star Karim Benzema has won the 2022 balloon d'Or. And this is history for the French star who won the first d'Or.

[GxSTxV]

Yes. Maybe there is a difference between Lionel Messi and Ronaldo. Lionel Messi had a brilliant career at Barcelona, while at PSG Lionel Messi was no longer as good as he was at Barcelona. Ronaldo has played in several clubs. His first career at Manchester United made Real Madrid sign him. He had a brilliant career at Real Madrid. I think this cannot be separated from the help of Marcelo, Mesut Ozil and others. But for now, the names of Ronaldo and Messi seem to be slowly being replaced.

Maybe the name Robert Lewandowski will appear in the future, but this really depends on the Champions League. But for now, the names of Ronaldo and Messi seem to be slowly being replaced. Maybe the name Robert Lewandowski will appear in the future, but this really depends on the Champions League. But we know Real Madrid star Karim Benzema has won the 2022 balloon d'Or. And this is history for the French star who won the first d'Or.

Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo both created a beautiful history of football and i believe nobody after them is capable to achieve what they did ever again they were literally fighting for the ballon d’or every year without any doubt or competition by other players we just knew it’s going to be one of them, when Ronaldo and Messi were both playing in the same Spanish league LaLiga they really improved a lot of stuff in football, if you just remember how many people were watching the Classico between real Madrid vs Barcelone they are really both talented and nobody was agreeing who was the better player. Messi was unstoppable when he catches the ball and also Ronaldo was scoring every where. It’s was indeed a beautiful period in football.

Now yes we see also new talented players different strategies, Karim Benzima  grew up with Real Madrid and did everything to improve himself he was a hard working player and kept learning till he got his reward and dream came true by wining a ballon d’or, Lewandowski is already known in Bayern Munich for his strength and goals he may do much things this season but Barcelone are suffering from much losses right now and they may even leave champions league, so i must say it’s hard to predict the next players who will fight for the ballon d’or, we have also the goal machine Erling Haaland playing with Manchester city who has already scored 15 goals in the very beginning of the league. And much other good players

[samuraijin]

I am not entirely sure if Ronaldo and Messi didn't deserve their awards. I mean maybe you can find a few seasons where other players did have a good season, but these are the people who had 80+ g/a seasons multiple times, they are just unreal and can't be beaten.

The first thing that stopped Ronaldo and Messi from getting the Ballon D'or award was that Ronaldo and Messi no longer played in the Spanish league, or just my opinion on the Ballon D'or award.

Have you ever thought that the Ballon d'or award that always benefits is the player who plays in the Spanish league, and it's only the big clubs from the Spanish league like Real Madrid and Barcelona, ​​when the award is won.

Example :
1. Messi when he was still playing for (Barcelona) won the 7th Ballon D'or award, many pros and cons where Robert Lewandowski had a good chance of rivaling Messi at that time,

2. Luka Modrić plays for (Real Madrid), getting his first Ballon D'or award, even though there is Mohamed Salah who also has the opportunity to get the Ballon D'or award.

Many things are strange and unreasonable in awarding the Ballon D'or award, which is organized by FIFA, maybe that's a picture that we can see in terms of things that don't make sense.

Let me put it this way on how good Ronaldo is, we all talked about how haaland would need to score like 40+ goals a year for 15+ seasons to reach his goal count, that should be good enough, messi didn't score as much, but he had more assists, so the g/a rate is even higher. So that is the difference, they got the awards because they were consistently the best players each year, maybe 1-2 seasons could go either way, but it would still be 10+ combined for sure.

If talking about good players this season may not be counted, Regarding Erling Haaland's game this season, this person is very worthy of being pinned by a Goal predator, because his desire to score goals is very high in every game he plays.

Again, if we talk about why Erling Haaland didn't get the Ballon D'or award, my answer is simple, playing in the Spanish league either at Real Madrid or Barcelona.

If FIFA sees the many contributions of assists in helping to score goals, why at that time CR7 When still in Real Madrid uniform had more goals than assists, In fact CR7 got the Ballon D'or Award, why not Luca Modric, James Rodríguez, or other colleagues who instead providing assists, more for CR7 to score goals..

That's my Logic thinking !!!

[shogun47]

I am not entirely sure if Ronaldo and Messi didn't deserve their awards. I mean maybe you can find a few seasons where other players did have a good season, but these are the people who had 80+ g/a seasons multiple times, they are just unreal and can't be beaten.

The first thing that stopped Ronaldo and Messi from getting the Ballon D'or award was that Ronaldo and Messi no longer played in the Spanish league, or just my opinion on the Ballon D'or award.

Have you ever thought that the Ballon d'or award that always benefits is the player who plays in the Spanish league, and it's only the big clubs from the Spanish league like Real Madrid and Barcelona, ​​when the award is won.

Example :
1. Messi when he was still playing for (Barcelona) won the 7th Ballon D'or award, many pros and cons where Robert Lewandowski had a good chance of rivaling Messi at that time,

2. Luka Modrić plays for (Real Madrid), getting his first Ballon D'or award, even though there is Mohamed Salah who also has the opportunity to get the Ballon D'or award.

Many things are strange and unreasonable in awarding the Ballon D'or award, which is organized by FIFA, maybe that's a picture that we can see in terms of things that don't make sense.

Let me put it this way on how good Ronaldo is, we all talked about how haaland would need to score like 40+ goals a year for 15+ seasons to reach his goal count, that should be good enough, messi didn't score as much, but he had more assists, so the g/a rate is even higher. So that is the difference, they got the awards because they were consistently the best players each year, maybe 1-2 seasons could go either way, but it would still be 10+ combined for sure.

If talking about good players this season may not be counted, Regarding Erling Haaland's game this season, this person is very worthy of being pinned by a Goal predator, because his desire to score goals is very high in every game he plays.

Again, if we talk about why Erling Haaland didn't get the Ballon D'or award, my answer is simple, playing in the Spanish league either at Real Madrid or Barcelona.

If FIFA sees the many contributions of assists in helping to score goals, why at that time CR7 When still in Real Madrid uniform had more goals than assists, In fact CR7 got the Ballon D'or Award, why not Luca Modric, James Rodríguez, or other colleagues who instead providing assists, more for CR7 to score goals..

That's my Logic thinking !!!

I do like this summary and I also do agree that giving it to Messi instead of Lewandowski came across as odd, but that was pretty much the single time during the Messi vs. Ronaldo era. I mean nobody knows whether we are going to see another combined 1000+goals? and countless assists by at least Messi, all happening between just two players. Now some people might argue that the Premier League is tougher and scoring 40+ goals is almost impossible. That is definitely a point to consider, but isn't it still a matter of fact that Messi and Ronaldo also lead the goal scoring statistics in the Champions League by far as well? They have just been the best players for more than a decade and they happened to play for around a decade.

If you talk about the clubs, well it also seems to be the case that Barcelona and Madrid combined won the most Champions League titles by far during that time. These things haven't been coincidences.

An important aspect is that none of them really got injured. The consistency you can bring onto the pitch is so decisive for your statistics and also for your visibility in the whole world. When you look at a player like Haaland, the only thing that could stop him from becoming a Ballon dor receiver is most likely an injury. If he is able to play at this level for Manchester City for a whole season without injuries, do you expect any player from Barcelona or Real Madrid to beat him just because of their club names?

One thing that is indeed a bit skewed is the position a player plays. As a striker you got much better odds to win the trophy. Regardless of that, the way Messi and Ronaldo dominated and decided games is rarely seen. I haven't seen it before in real life.

[Joca97]

Barcelona made it easy for Lionel Messi, but Ronaldo has done across three club's, if not four, they are 🐐's.

Yes. Maybe there is a difference between Lionel Messi and Ronaldo. Lionel Messi had a brilliant career at Barcelona, while at PSG Lionel Messi was no longer as good as he was at Barcelona. Ronaldo has played in several clubs. His first career at Manchester United made Real Madrid sign him. He had a brilliant career at Real Madrid. I think this cannot be separated from the help of Marcelo, Mesut Ozil and others. But for now, the names of Ronaldo and Messi seem to be slowly being replaced.

Maybe the name Robert Lewandowski will appear in the future, but this really depends on the Champions League. But for now, the names of Ronaldo and Messi seem to be slowly being replaced. Maybe the name Robert Lewandowski will appear in the future, but this really depends on the Champions League. But we know Real Madrid star Karim Benzema has won the 2022 balloon d'Or. And this is history for the French star who won the first d'Or.

For me personally Ronaldo had a big impact and its a shame that he didnt win more ballon dors. Messi isnt even close to his gamestyle and play in like he was in Barcelona and that just proves so many things. Benzema deserved it last season he played perfectly and this was obvious he was gonna win.

[Roman_Picisan]

Barcelona made it easy for Lionel Messi, but Ronaldo has done across three club's, if not four, they are 🐐's.

Yes. Maybe there is a difference between Lionel Messi and Ronaldo. Lionel Messi had a brilliant career at Barcelona, while at PSG Lionel Messi was no longer as good as he was at Barcelona. Ronaldo has played in several clubs. His first career at Manchester United made Real Madrid sign him. He had a brilliant career at Real Madrid. I think this cannot be separated from the help of Marcelo, Mesut Ozil and others. But for now, the names of Ronaldo and Messi seem to be slowly being replaced.

Maybe the name Robert Lewandowski will appear in the future, but this really depends on the Champions League. But for now, the names of Ronaldo and Messi seem to be slowly being replaced. Maybe the name Robert Lewandowski will appear in the future, but this really depends on the Champions League. But we know Real Madrid star Karim Benzema has won the 2022 balloon d'Or. And this is history for the French star who won the first d'Or.

For me personally Ronaldo had a big impact and its a shame that he didnt win more ballon dors. Messi isnt even close to his gamestyle and play in like he was in Barcelona and that just proves so many things. Benzema deserved it last season he played perfectly and this was obvious he was gonna win.

This year's Ballon D'or is over, and won by Karim Benzema, enough of Messi and Ronaldo's good debate.  ballon D'or who did not wait for the completion of the FIFA World Cup which changed the direction of the winner, I hope, the best player of the FIFA World Cup will become the champion in the future in the acquisition of the ballon D'or 2023.

[Oneandpure]

Last few years Ballon d'Or not dominance with both player only between Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo, but need applause with both player success won Ballon d'Or several time although last edition on 2021 most controversy after Lionel Messi won and Lewandowski most expected to won have been in under Messi position. Congratulation for Karim Benzema waiting almost 15 years to be winner Ballon d'Or and exactly he has quite performance with Real Madrid, regardless many trophies success collected with Real Madrid in this season he has grew most potential player.

Next edition for Ballon d'Or I think still have several player dominance, Lionel Messi still have chance actually next month World Cup could be improvement for all player if success with their national team have chance to win Ballon d'Or, except with Cristiano Ronaldo, I think he loss chance to win Ballon d'Or next edition because he doesn't get regular position with his team Manchester United.

[Rengga Jati]

This year's Ballon D'or is over, and won by Karim Benzema, enough of Messi and Ronaldo's good debate.  ballon D'or who did not wait for the completion of the FIFA World Cup which changed the direction of the winner, I hope, the best player of the FIFA World Cup will become the champion in the future in the acquisition of the ballon D'or 2023.

Benzema really deserves this, for how his contribution and performance were exactly amazing. He could give not only many common goals but also surprising goals that can save his club from suddenly having the chance to win in the late times. How many times Benema could save his club from loss and then turn them into victories...
He deserves this, he is a very talented player with high experience and professionalism, and what is more important is that he is not selfish when he is on the field, does not chase to always score goals, he can always consider who has the best chance to score goals, not only for him. because he plays for a solid whole team.

I also do agree that it is enough to debate about Ronaldo and Messi, both are great professional players, but they are in their era, let it be.

[bitpotter]

Karim Benzema won all the league titles and won the Ballon d'or 2022. Of course it was not an easy thing especially at Real Madrid he was still haunted by the figure of Ronaldo at that time, but finally now he is the main option in every game and is likely to extend his contract at Real Madrid until 2024.

[harapan]

Karim Benzema won all the league titles and won the Ballon d'or 2022. Of course it was not an easy thing especially at Real Madrid he was still haunted by the figure of Ronaldo at that time, but finally now he is the main option in every game and is likely to extend his contract at Real Madrid until 2024.

Since he has no plans of retirement very soon with Real Madrid, I see he has a way of beating Ronaldo's all time goal scoring record for Real Madrid, I see Karim Benzema stand's third place after Raul in the ranking of the highest players who scored for Real Madrid. He was part of the contribution last season he deserves the Ballon d'or without much talking, it's a long season ahead he will still score lot of goals.

[Fakhrulenclix]

Karim Benzema won all the league titles and won the Ballon d'or 2022. Of course it was not an easy thing especially at Real Madrid he was still haunted by the figure of Ronaldo at that time, but finally now he is the main option in every game and is likely to extend his contract at Real Madrid until 2024.

Since he has no plans of retirement very soon with Real Madrid, I see he has a way of beating Ronaldo's all time goal scoring record for Real Madrid, I see Karim Benzema stand's third place after Raul in the ranking of the highest players who scored for Real Madrid. He was part of the contribution last season he deserves the Ballon d'or without much talking, it's a long season ahead he will still score lot of goals.

it's hard to catch Ronaldo's goalscoring record, Cristiano has scored 450 goals and that will be very difficult to catch, Benzema is 34 years old, maybe he is only a few seasons away from scoring goals.

However, Benzema's achievement to win the Ballon d'Or is commendable, he has always consistently shown his best performances in several seasons and he has always been a mainstay of Real Madrid in recent seasons and this is what he deserves when he is able to help the team achieve everything.

[Freeveto]

Karim Benzema won all the league titles and won the Ballon d'or 2022. Of course it was not an easy thing especially at Real Madrid he was still haunted by the figure of Ronaldo at that time, but finally now he is the main option in every game and is likely to extend his contract at Real Madrid until 2024.

Since he has no plans of retirement very soon with Real Madrid, I see Karim Benzema stand's third place after Raul in the ranking of the highest players who scored for Real Madrid. He was part of the contribution last season he deserves the Ballon d'or without much talking, it's a long season ahead he will still score lot of goals.

No doubts here Karim Benzema is the best player to get this very award and should be given the ballon d'Or Imo, but seem that they world cup coming into play next would be among the criterias that would be needed to judge who is gonna be fitted in to win this award.

I see he has a way of beating Ronaldo's all time goal scoring record for Real Madrid.

I don't see this as becoming so easy for him to break that record,  except if he is very close to the number of goals already scored by Ronaldo during his stay at Real Madrid.

[shogun47]

Karim Benzema won all the league titles and won the Ballon d'or 2022. Of course it was not an easy thing especially at Real Madrid he was still haunted by the figure of Ronaldo at that time, but finally now he is the main option in every game and is likely to extend his contract at Real Madrid until 2024.

Since he has no plans of retirement very soon with Real Madrid, I see Karim Benzema stand's third place after Raul in the ranking of the highest players who scored for Real Madrid. He was part of the contribution last season he deserves the Ballon d'or without much talking, it's a long season ahead he will still score lot of goals.

No doubts here Karim Benzema is the best player to get this very award and should be given the ballon d'Or Imo, but seem that they world cup coming into play next would be among the criterias that would be needed to judge who is gonna be fitted in to win this award.

I see he has a way of beating Ronaldo's all time goal scoring record for Real Madrid.

I don't see this as becoming so easy for him to break that record,  except if he is very close to the number of goals already scored by Ronaldo during his stay at Real Madrid.

It hasn't only been the case for Benzema. Remember when Iniesta was very close to becoming the world's best player, but there was someone called Messi. I think there are a couple of examples across various kinds of sports (tennis) where a certain era is so dominated by some actors that even when you are absolute top world class, you probably got no chance to win such a title.

Haaland just scored two more goals. He might turn out to be such player again where no other striker can ever compete for the title of becoming the best striker of the season. You score 40 goals, fine, Haaland scores 50. The era someone is in obviously plays quite an important role. Benzema deserved it last season though because he was deadly as a striker in almost every single game and in a way that was impressive. So many goals that were super hard to score.

[BitcoinAccepted]

Benzema seems to me to be the deserved winner of last season. There were more players who did very well, but he was definitely the most efficient last season. Many people think that the balloon only goes to the first player, but it is the prize for the first player. Messi apparently wasn't even in the first 30 nominees, I think there are a lot of players who didn't belong on the list and Messi did, but Messi won the ball last year when everyone thought someone else should get it. Lewandowsky is quite old and there is also a lot of competition. I wonder if he will ever win it again in the future? Next time it will mainly be between Haaland and Mbappe, I think.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Well, without a doubt, I think that Benzema's victory was a given, and following the tradition of how FIFA takes all this into account, they are based on who wins in their local leagues + UCL and if they meet these conditions, obviously the winner would be, now of course, who broke all these conditions without a doubt someone was Messi, because he is like FIFA's favorite player, but to be more precise I still can't forget the day that the great Lewa was robbed of the Ballon d'Or, but since he is now in a team that relatively he survives with the good purchase of somewhat cheap players, but very good and famous, I don't know if he will meet expectations, now with everything that has happened with Lewa and being out of the UCL, it is more difficult for him to enter the Ballon d'Or aspirations.

Benzema seems to me to be the deserved winner of last season. There were more players who did very well, but he was definitely the most efficient last season. Many people think that the balloon only goes to the first player, but it is the prize for the first player. Messi apparently wasn't even in the first 30 nominees, I think there are a lot of players who didn't belong on the list and Messi did, but Messi won the ball last year when everyone thought someone else should get it. Lewandowsky is quite old and there is also a lot of competition. I wonder if he will ever win it again in the future? Next time it will mainly be between Haaland and Mbappe, I think.

I said that Mbappé would not enter even with a pressure key, because he is a player who is barely developing, with many things to mature, in these cases I think that a golden ball takes into account the attitudes of a player, in the how he reacts, how he is on the pitch when he does certain things, certain luxuries, how he gets along with the team, if he is a person who is somewhat human, who does not get carried away by fame, I think Benzema has all those characteristics, I can't deny that Lewa is very good, but I think he made a serious mistake by going to Barcelona, he would have stayed in the team he was in and wouldn't have missed out on the UCL.

[jakdanyel]

Benzema seems to me to be the deserved winner of last season. There were more players who did very well, but he was definitely the most efficient last season. Many people think that the balloon only goes to the first player, but it is the prize for the first player. Messi apparently wasn't even in the first 30 nominees, I think there are a lot of players who didn't belong on the list and Messi did, but Messi won the ball last year when everyone thought someone else should get it. Lewandowsky is quite old and there is also a lot of competition. I wonder if he will ever win it again in the future? Next time it will mainly be between Haaland and Mbappe, I think.

The biggest contribution of Benzema to winning the award was the performances of Modric, Courtois and Vinicius. These three players really struggled a lot. Thanks to this, they won both La Liga and the Champions League. If it wasn't for that, Benzema wouldn't have won this award either. Already, if one of Messi or Ronaldo had performed a little better, they would have won the Ballon d'Or. I am also looking forward to who will win this year. Haaland is currently attracting attention as a favorite goalscorer for football fans all over the world. However, I am not sure if he will be able to win such a large-scale award.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Karim Benzema won all the league titles and won the Ballon d'or 2022. Of course it was not an easy thing especially at Real Madrid he was still haunted by the figure of Ronaldo at that time, but finally now he is the main option in every game and is likely to extend his contract at Real Madrid until 2024.

Since he has no plans of retirement very soon with Real Madrid, I see he has a way of beating Ronaldo's all time goal scoring record for Real Madrid, I see Karim Benzema stand's third place after Raul in the ranking of the highest players who scored for Real Madrid. He was part of the contribution last season he deserves the Ballon d'or without much talking, it's a long season ahead he will still score lot of goals.

Well, it actually seems to me that the Ballon d'Or was well sung for quite some time. What seems impressive to me is that Deschamps does not want Benzema in the French team, in fact he excluded him and said that not because he had won the Golden Ball he was going to put him in the French team, I do not know how much power he has, but he is very similar to the case of Ten Hag with CR7, it seems to me that they are technicians who are very arrogant and who do not accept that they need their stars, and if this is so, if France is taken out in the first round the It's entirely his fault for being so imposing and foolish.

[cygan]

it's almost that time again and this year's ballon d'or trophy will be awarded.
there is now officially a list with all the players' names (men as well as women) that can be voted for by the nations. the official winner will be announced in paris on october 30.
who would be your favorite to win the trophy?
not nominated are Ronaldo, Neymar and Rashford...

[GbitG]

it's almost that time again and this year's ballon d'or trophy will be awarded.
there is now officially a list with all the players' names (men as well as women) that can be voted for by the nations. the official winner will be announced in paris on october 30.
who would be your favorite to win the trophy?
not nominated are Ronaldo, Neymar and Rashford...

Here we go: the 2023 Ballon d'Or nominee list. I can't wait for this. It makes me laugh that Ronaldo wasn't nominated for the Ballon d'Or for the first time in 20 years, since 2003. The winner is already decided, and that is Messi.
There are several reasons why the 2023 Ballon d'Or will be won by Messi because he has had such a nice performance at PSG and Argentina. The reason is shown in the image below.
 


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[macson]

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Here we go: the 2023 Ballon d'Or nominee list. I can't wait for this. It makes me laugh that Ronaldo wasn't nominated for the Ballon d'Or for the first time in 20 years, since 2003. The winner is already decided, and that is Messi.
There are several reasons why the 2023 Ballon d'Or will be won by Messi because he has had such a nice performance at PSG and Argentina. The reason is shown in the image below.

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i also read this news and Man City is the club that has the majority of the players who are nominated for the 2023 Ballon d'Or, haaland is predicted as the favorite choice this time because he managed to bring Man City to the UCL title and others, but i think he is still not worthy because his achievements in the national team are not that good.  anyway the most likely winner of the 2023 Ballon d'Or is Messi ^{(at the moment Messi is still the player with the most Ballon d'Or holders)}.  if messi manages to get the 2023 ballon d'or trophy then it will be his last trophy because there is no way he will be able to get it again when he plays for the MLS league right now.