Ballon d'Or discussion and odds

[KTChampions]

You say that Messi did not help PSG much, but how do you explain that Messi was the second best scorer in Ligue 1 with I think 1 point behind Mbappe? Do you call that "not much of a help"? I think that is a huge exaggeration and Messi did contribute a lot to PSG's small successes, but they did not win the Champions League and this is what the fans blame him for, which is of course ridiculous.
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You pretend that you don’t understand the problem - the one who is recognized as the best should show not just “average” results in the farm league, but something truly amazing, as Haaland did. Messi was knocked out of the Champions League in the 1/8 finals two times in a row without scoring or assisting. The fact that he will receive another stolen Ballon d'Or is only evidence of ongoing corruption.

[sokani]

You pretend that you don’t understand the problem - the one who is recognized as the best should show not just “average” results in the farm league, but something truly amazing, as Haaland did. Messi was knocked out of the Champions League in the 1/8 finals two times in a row without scoring or assisting. The fact that he will receive another stolen Ballon d'Or is only evidence of ongoing corruption.

I've said it before that Messi does not deserve the Ballon D'or but I won't be surprised if he wins it because they've rigged it in the past in his favour, so they could do it again. Halaand is the best candidate to land this award based on his stellar performance for his club last season, helping Manchester City to triple trophies; EPL, FA cup and the champions league. He also finished as the top scorer in both the champions league and EPL. If FIFA wants to use the world cup as a yardstick to judge both of them, then the Ballon D'or should go to Julian Alvarez.

[Plaguedeath]

Congratulations for the another robbery, now the guy is very happy because he own the most Ballon d'Or in history and not really easy to overtake him unless they use a same strategy like this guy did e.g. bribe. I already expect he will win, just like I predicted him in few months ago.

I guess we will see the true competition in the next year since this guy no longer playing in competitive league.

The probability of each player to win Ballon d'Or is:

Messi 95%

[Latviand]

Congratulations for the another robbery, now the guy is very happy because he own the most Ballon d'Or in history and not really easy to overtake him unless they use a same strategy like this guy did e.g. bribe. I already expect he will win, just like I predicted him in few months ago.

I guess we will see the true competition in the next year since this guy no longer playing in competitive league.

It shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone that this kind of thing happen and bribes are a norm in the football scene for a long time now, I mean look at the Qatar's bid to be the venue for FIFA World Cup, wasn't that bid also was exposed to be rifed with corruption so I don't know why we are so shocked that bribery is a way to earn prestige.

[sokani]

Congratulations to Messi for another robbery. This is an excerpt of Messi's speech after winning the Ballon D'or:

“Haaland and Mbappé will win the Ballon d’Or one day”.

"Erling deserved it very much too, he has won Premier League, Champions League while being the top scorer of everything. This award could have been yours today too...”

Even Messi knows he didn't deserved it, he knows it's a parting gift from FIFA to him. They just want to make him the only player in history with the highest number of Ballon D'or.

[rendravolt]

Congratulations to Messi for another robbery. This is an excerpt of Messi's speech after winning the Ballon D'or:

“Haaland and Mbappé will win the Ballon d’Or one day”.

"Erling deserved it very much too, he has won Premier League, Champions League while being the top scorer of everything. This award could have been yours today too...”

Even Messi knows he didn't deserved it, he knows it's a parting gift from FIFA to him. They just want to make him the only player in history with the highest number of Ballon D'or.

Actually I don't want to discuss this and previously I was not a fan of Messi or Ronaldo. Maybe we all know that the competition between Ronaldo and Messi has been going on for 15 years and both of them are competing for the Ballon D'or title. Along the way, we also know that there are often robberies from both of them, but Messi does that more often. Last night's Ballon D'Or event was also another robbery from Messi and everyone knows that the real winner was Erling Haaland who won the treble and scored more than 50 goals in one season in all competitions. Maybe Messi did win the world cup last season with Argentina and that was indeed an extraordinary achievement, but for club achievements he cannot provide decent statistics, even after leaving PSG he joined the MLS team.

It feels unreasonable and it's also certain that an event like this has become a joke because a few days ago the Ballon D'or winner was also leaked through various media and this makes this event seem meaningless. If the thing that made Messi win the Ballon D'or was becoming world cup champion, then what happened to Kylian Mbappe, who also succeeded in bringing France to world championship in 2018? Moreover, he was still very young at that time and the one who won the Ballon D'or that year was Luka Modric because he succeeded in bringing Croatia to the final round of the 2018 world cup. In the last two editions of the world cup, Kylian Mbappe was also a victim and not only Erling Haaland who get the same treatment.

[Oluwa-btc]

Congratulations to Messi for another robbery. This is an excerpt of Messi's speech after winning the Ballon D'or:

“Haaland and Mbappé will win the Ballon d’Or one day”.

"Erling deserved it very much too, he has won Premier League, Champions League while being the top scorer of everything. This award could have been yours today too...”

Even Messi knows he didn't deserved it, he knows it's a parting gift from FIFA to him. They just want to make him the only player in history with the highest number of Ballon D'or.

Congratulations to Lionel Messi, I must admit his talents are extraordinary and he should not be considered someone from planet earth.
I can go on to say both of his Ballon d'ors are not worth with but who am I? Congratulations to him again for making him eight time winner!

There's no need for much lamentations and lamenting. For players like Erling Haaland and Kylian Mbappe, they should focus on what's ahead at most Kylian Mbappe.
The deed and whatsoever cheating has been done, now it's time for them to plan ahead. Erling Haaland if he works hard again would, but could be tough to achieve in the Premier League.

Cristiano Ronaldo after fifteen years, remains the only player to have won the Ballon d'or from the Premier League!

[Nheer]

You say that Messi did not help PSG much, but how do you explain that Messi was the second best scorer in Ligue 1 with I think 1 point behind Mbappe? Do you call that "not much of a help"? I think that is a huge exaggeration and Messi did contribute a lot to PSG's small successes, but they did not win the Champions League and this is what the fans blame him for, which is of course ridiculous.
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You pretend that you don’t understand the problem - the one who is recognized as the best should show not just “average” results in the farm league, but something truly amazing, as Haaland did. Messi was knocked out of the Champions League in the 1/8 finals two times in a row without scoring or assisting. The fact that he will receive another stolen Ballon d'Or is only evidence of ongoing corruption.

Exactly, as the best in the world you need to show more than an average performance which Haaland did, he won the champions league, premier league, FA cup as well and was the highest goal scorer in the premier league, he scored nearly 50 goals and they say it’s not enough, so ridiculous . Most people who think like @temple here are just blind messi fans who just don’t want to admit the fact that this is pure robbery, Haaland was robbed this year and even messi himself admitted Haaland deserved it. Messi did nothing spectacular this year he only won the world cup and why didn’t players who won the world cup back in the years messi won Ballon D’or win the Award? The france Award is corrupt and it is not awarded based on merit anymore because this is an obvious robbery and i can never take the Ballon d’or award seriously anymore.

Messi went to PSG and failed to show impact and ran to the MLS and still couldn’t show any real impact in the MLS league, his team have been suffering back to back losses and are about to be relegated and they still went on to gift him the award, it’s so funny.

[iBaba]

As soon as Messi and Ronaldo retire, then the game will be much more competitive because all the players will be at the same level, there will no longer be a player who is much superior to the rest of the players, and the attention of the news channels will also no longer be the same. Same as now that there's still Messi. That's why it will be something historic if Messi wins again against 𝐁𝐚𝐥𝐥𝐨𝐧 𝐝’𝐎𝐫

I am most excited about the achievements of Lionel Messi right now including the most recent one which is the 8th 𝐁𝐚𝐥𝐥𝐨𝐧 𝐝’𝐎r. Messi is invariably the best player in the history of football right now as he has won almost the highest football competitions in his career.

From 10 La Liga, 7 Copa Del Rey, 1 Trophee Des Champions, 8 Spanish Super Cup, 3 Club World Cup, 3 UEFA Super Cup, 2 League 1, 1 Copa America, Finalissima and World Cup each, 6 Golden Boots, 8 Ballon d'Or amongst others.

Congratulations to Messi on the great mark achieved. Congratulations to Barcelona. Congratulations to Argentina and other major teams he had played in.

[HelliumZ]

Who will win Ballon d'or 2016 ?

Club & country:

Cristiano Ronaldo - 51 goals / 17 assists

Leo Messi - 56 goals / 32 assists



What do you think? What are the odds ?

Messi winning the Ballon d'Or for the eighth time is not surprising, but CR7 Ronaldo (third) and Haaland (second) were also contenders for winning the Ballon d'Or, but the best Lionel Messi beat all the odds. Salute boss, your only comparison is yourself.

[Oluwa-btc]

Erling Haaland has scored too many goals, won all three Competitions broke so many records in his first season in the Premier League, it would be great to see someone finally meeting up with Cristiano Ronaldo being the only Ballon d'or award winner in the Premier League.
Anyways, Lionel Messi for me, he deserves it.

Wait, is it true that only Cristiano has ever won the Ballon D'Or from the Premier League? I haven't gotten any information like that. But if that is true then this will be biased because what is called the Best League in the world does not have many players who have won the Ballon D'Or. For me, Haaland deserves it, but Messi also had extraordinary achievements last season. So this will probably be our competition. Let's just wait for the voting results.
And it looks like the Ballon D'Or awards will be held on October 30 (CMIIW) and there are only a few days left to add to our discussion list here.

It finally held and Lionel Messi was awarded the Ballon d'or winner for the eighth time. Yeah! Cristiano Ronaldo stands as the only player who has won the Ballon d'or from the Premier League.
I don't consider them as the best no more, they're only having good marketing strategies. They're are not worthy to be called the best league in the world.

Lionel Messi helped PSG a big time. People who fail to see that are blind. Too much was expected from him, he was also doing both jobs, that of midfielder's and that of the attackers. Because of tue standards he has set at Barcelona, they really wanted seeing another top Performance from him at PSG, but I'm so sorry he couldn't!

[iBaba]

Who will win Ballon d'or 2016 ?

Club & country:

Cristiano Ronaldo - 51 goals / 17 assists

Leo Messi - 56 goals / 32 assists



What do you think? What are the odds ?

Messi winning the Ballon d'Or for the eighth time is not surprising, but CR7 Ronaldo (third) and Haaland (second) were also contenders for winning the Ballon d'Or, but the best Lionel Messi beat all the odds. Salute boss, your only comparison is yourself.

As we celebrate Lionel Messi, I also want to celebrate two Nigerian players who made it to the Ballon D'or ranking of this year. They are Victor Osimhen of Napoli who ranked number 8 in the list of rankings and Bukayo Saka of Arsenal who made it to the ranking too coming as the number 24th of the 30 total number of rankings.

Victor Osimhen has performed very well in the Serie A, Napoli club. In this season alone, he had appeared 8 times, started 7 games and scored 6 goals for the club. In last season, his appearance totaled 32 where he started 30 matches and scored 26 goals as well as making 4 assists of goals. Although he's weak in terms of offside awareness but he's very good in finishing. I think those are the reasons he had to appear at the first 10 of that list.

Bukayo Saka on the other hand, has played greatly well in the Premier league for the Arsenal club of London derby. Although Saka plays for England at the international games, Saka is a Nigerian by origin and will have the right to switch back to Nigeria national team if he wishes. In this season, Saka has appeared in 12 matches and started in all of the 12 matches with 5 goals and 5 assists. In the last season, he had made a total of 48 appearance and started in 42 of the those matches but scored 15 goals and assisted in 11 of the club's goals. Saka is good in crossing, holding on the ball, finishing and making key passes but a bit weak at tackling and concentration.

[Abu-Naim]

Congratulations for the another robbery, now the guy is very happy because he own the most Ballon d'Or in history and not really easy to overtake him unless they use a same strategy like this guy did e.g. bribe. I already expect he will win, just like I predicted him in few months ago.

I guess we will see the true competition in the next year since this guy no longer playing in competitive league.

The probability of each player to win Ballon d'Or is:

Messi 95%

Who else should win it in the list of nominees? Haaland? of course no because he is a player that is not too good when their team is not attacking which why he score less goals this season when a player that is feeding him with long balls is injured and his team Manchester City are finding it difficult to score goals.

Messi is great player but I don't also think he deserve this Ballom d'Or this time because the team he played for last season which is PSG is in a league that is not that competitive, and Messi and other good players like Neymar, Mbappe and others cannot help them win Champion's League last season; for that reason, Haaland deserve it more based on club performance because Messi only Win World Cup, League one and small trophies while Haaland won Champions League, Premier League, Super Cup and FA Cup.

[Hirose UK]

Just because he succeeded with Argentina in winning the 2022 World Cup, Messi won the Ballon d'Or for the umpteenth time and this really makes us a little disappointed with what FIFA did in selecting the winner of the Ballon d'Or trophy.
FIFA should prioritize young players and there is no need to make Messi their golden boy because in the future Messi will soon retire from football.
In my opinion, Haaland will get it and take home the Ballon d'Or trophy and when Messi was announced as the winner we smiled in disappointment at the decision.

Haaland only got the Gerd Mueller Trophy and this award was given because of Haaland great achievements last season by having 59 goals.

[karabiber]

If you look at who has won the awards since 1956 (excluding the Ronaldo and Messi era), you can see the years of football's glamor. Football is not a game like Basketball, where a match with a clear favorite ends with the clear favorite winning 99% of the time, and football is a game that has the potential to surprise the audience at any moment by presenting unexpected scenarios. The players who have won the Ballon d’Or have gone down in football history thanks to this aspect of football that can offer different stories.

Some of them won the award for their determined struggle to lead a mediocre team to the championship in the top league, some for leading a team to the first championship in its history, some for putting in a performance that stood out much more than forwards despite being defenders. After Messi and Ronaldo became the billion dollar advertising stars of the football world, the Ballon d’Or has evolved into something different. I think the awarding of the prize to Luka Modric in 2018 in the last decade was a reflection of the "old Ballon d'Or". I don't care about this award.

[Agbamoni]

IMO it was not fair. Messi didn't played well in his present club compared to the performance of Ronaldo in at El Nasir. I believe he actually won the Ballon d'Or because of the world cup he won and he had performed and manage his countries team to win.

Earlier today I had some conversations about this and led to some argument with my freind and neighbor. Most of them were sentimental because they love Messi and a loyal fan to him. One of them said something that changed my mindset. He said in other to win the Ballon d'Or it does not depend on the voting strength its different now. What is important is your input to the team you play with. When Mudrich won the Ballon d'Or he won world cup and played very well and his impact to his team was top notch.

Just win a world cup and you win the Ballon d'Or

[onecall123]

IMO it was not fair. Messi didn't played well in his present club compared to the performance of Ronaldo in at El Nasir. I believe he actually won the Ballon d'Or because of the world cup he won and he had performed and manage his countries team to win.

Earlier today I had some conversations about this and led to some argument with my freind and neighbor. Most of them were sentimental because they love Messi and a loyal fan to him. One of them said something that changed my mindset. He said in other to win the Ballon d'Or it does not depend on the voting strength its different now. What is important is your input to the team you play with. When Mudrich won the Ballon d'Or he won world cup and played very well and his impact to his team was top notch.

Just win a world cup and you win the Ballon d'Or

Ballon d'Or is no longer something you win; it's something you're given. It's not a reliable measure of football performance anymore. If we're comparing achievements like the World Cup (Messi) and the treble (Haaland), then shouldn't Alvarez win the Ballon d'Or since he's won both?

FYI, this award isn't decided by a committee. It's determined by votes from 100 journalists representing various nations. Each journalist has one vote.

[Bobrox]

Ballon d'Or is no longer something you win; it's something you're given. It's not a reliable measure of football performance anymore. If we're comparing achievements like the World Cup (Messi) and the treble (Haaland), then shouldn't Alvarez win the Ballon d'Or since he's won both?

FYI, this award isn't decided by a committee. It's determined by votes from 100 journalists representing various nations. Each journalist has one vote.

Acceptable or not with final decision Lionel Messi won Ballon D'or in this year although he hasn't not well performed with his current team such as PSG or Inter Miami but he won FIFA World Cup 2022 in Qatar with his national team Argentina. Indeed many controversial about Lionel Messi won Ballon D'or due related with Erling Haaland have good performed and scored many goals with Manchester City but he achievement treble winner from FA Cup, Premier League, UEFA Champion League and completed become top scorer is not important because he loss compete from Lionel Messi won Ligue 1 tittle and FIFA World Cup to be Ballon D'Or winner.

Due not transparent with vote announcement, I am not really sure with all vote favorite for Lionel Messi winning Ballon D'Or, they have see aspect or another achievement from Lionel Messi and his contribution exactly with his previous teams Inter Miami failed lead to playoff round in MLS League.

[Plaguedeath]

Ballon d'Or is no longer something you win; it's something you're given. It's not a reliable measure of football performance anymore. If we're comparing achievements like the World Cup (Messi) and the treble (Haaland), then shouldn't Alvarez win the Ballon d'Or since he's won both?

FYI, this award isn't decided by a committee. It's determined by votes from 100 journalists representing various nations. Each journalist has one vote.

That's why Messi won, he has a big name, so people will close their eyes with the other nominations and choose him. You're wrong if you say football performance isn't a measure to win Ballon d'Or, FIFA itself already mentioned it their rules.

According to its Rules of Allocation, FIFA bestows the award "according to on-field performance and overall behaviour on and off the pitch."

Haaland fill this two categories, he's very good in the field and he respect to everyone.

While the another guy who won the Ballon d'Or is only score by penalty kick where everyone can do that and he taunted Netherlands back because he was angry, there's no good behavior.

[Frankolala]

Just because he succeeded with Argentina in winning the 2022 World Cup, Messi won the Ballon d'Or for the umpteenth time and this really makes us a little disappointed with what FIFA did in selecting the winner of the Ballon d'Or trophy.
FIFA should prioritize young players and there is no need to make Messi their golden boy because in the future Messi will soon retire from football.
In my opinion, Haaland will get it and take home the Ballon d'Or trophy and when Messi was announced as the winner we smiled in disappointment at the decision.

Haaland only got the Gerd Mueller Trophy and this award was given because of Haaland great achievements last season by having 59 goals.

You are right, FIFA manipulated the winner and that was why they gave it to their boy Lionel Messi. I still believe that football is not over yet and as the youngsters are coming up, we will still have another great name that will break Messi record on Ballon d'or, and this time that youngster might win it up to 10 times.

Now that the two rival are out of the competition, I am looking for to see a new superstar that will win it next year and we are watching closely, to see if FIFA will bring sentiment into it again. Let them just allow things to flow naturally in football. Messi won it, but he doesn't deserve it.