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January 16, 2024, 09:46:19 PM
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The clownery continues!  Grin

Winners from Best FIFA Football Awards 2023
The Best FIFA Men's Player - Lionel Messi

https://www.90min.com/posts/the-best-fifa-football-awards-2023-full-winners-list

Seriously? It seems that when he retires, they will create a new nomination “the best among pensioners” and will award it to him every year. What makes what happened especially poignant is the fact that, according to leaks, Haaland was supposed to win, so Messi didn’t even come to the ceremony, and when the winner was announced it was very awkward.
What a shameful, pathetic circus. There is a feeling that this clownery will continue until 2027 (in 2026 they will hold the World Cup and finally bury this PR story that everyone is already tired of).
It’s laughable. I don’t see how Messi who is playing in Inter Miami could win the award. Lionel Messi did not merit the award and was given based on sentiment.  I don’t want to shout robbery but what did Messi achieve within the timeline (19th Dec 2022 - 20th August 2023) under review that makes him merit the award ahead of Erling Haaland and Kylian Mbappe? FIFA should rename the awards to football popularity contest because that is what it is.
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January 17, 2024, 02:31:18 PM
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The clownery continues!  Grin

Winners from Best FIFA Football Awards 2023
The Best FIFA Men's Player - Lionel Messi

https://www.90min.com/posts/the-best-fifa-football-awards-2023-full-winners-list

Seriously? It seems that when he retires, they will create a new nomination “the best among pensioners” and will award it to him every year. What makes what happened especially poignant is the fact that, according to leaks, Haaland was supposed to win, so Messi didn’t even come to the ceremony, and when the winner was announced it was very awkward.
What a shameful, pathetic circus. There is a feeling that this clownery will continue until 2027 (in 2026 they will hold the World Cup and finally bury this PR story that everyone is already tired of).
It’s laughable. I don’t see how Messi who is playing in Inter Miami could win the award. Lionel Messi did not merit the award and was given based on sentiment.  I don’t want to shout robbery but what did Messi achieve within the timeline (19th Dec 2022 - 20th August 2023) under review that makes him merit the award ahead of Erling Haaland and Kylian Mbappe? FIFA should rename the awards to football popularity contest because that is what it is.

The award is given for a year (as the name suggests) and here even more questions arise - a significant part of the time, while Mbappe, Haaland, Bellingham, etc. showed themselves in the game Messi was lying on the beach as Inter Miami flew past the playoffs.
I see from social networks and forums that everyone took this indifferently (ignored) or with irritation. It seems everyone is just used to it and doesn’t really want to discuss these PR perversions.

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January 20, 2024, 03:31:20 PM
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Dsports reports that Messi and Di Maria will take part in the 2024 Olympic Games in Paris
https://www.directvsports.com/futbol/Exclusivo-Messi-y-Di-Maria-quieren-jugar-los-Juegos-Olimpicos-y-AFA-afina-el-plan-para-que-que-esten-en-Paris-20240119-0020.html

Looks like I know who will win the Ballon d'Or next year  Roll Eyes
I wonder if almost 40-year-old men are not ashamed to go to a youth team competition? I know that there is an age limit but several players above this limit can be of any age, but what a shame it is. If Messi wants to prove something, maybe it would be easier to return to Europe and play? But no, he chooses some shameful ways to support the PR of his brand.

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January 22, 2024, 02:33:16 AM
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Dsports reports that Messi and Di Maria will take part in the 2024 Olympic Games in Paris
https://www.directvsports.com/futbol/Exclusivo-Messi-y-Di-Maria-quieren-jugar-los-Juegos-Olimpicos-y-AFA-afina-el-plan-para-que-que-esten-en-Paris-20240119-0020.html

Looks like I know who will win the Ballon d'Or next year  Roll Eyes
I wonder if almost 40-year-old men are not ashamed to go to a youth team competition? I know that there is an age limit but several players above this limit can be of any age, but what a shame it is. If Messi wants to prove something, maybe it would be easier to return to Europe and play? But no, he chooses some shameful ways to support the PR of his brand.
Hahaha everything will feel very easy for Messi because he is like golden boy by FIFA and Messi will be able to achieve what he wants even though that may be topic of conversation for many football fans.
But this will be different for Messi fans and they will still consider Messi as the best and Messi as the greatest star of all the existing players.
If he really takes part in the competition then it can be confirmed that there is another goal and of course this is about his name and career as football player, for some reason there are players who are full of protection from the top football federation officials.

It just that I not really sure whether he can get the Ballon d'Or in the future because the last award yesterday has caused negative sentiment and if that happens again then we will know what football fans are talking about and thinking about.

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January 22, 2024, 07:16:56 AM
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Dsports reports that Messi and Di Maria will take part in the 2024 Olympic Games in Paris
https://www.directvsports.com/futbol/Exclusivo-Messi-y-Di-Maria-quieren-jugar-los-Juegos-Olimpicos-y-AFA-afina-el-plan-para-que-que-esten-en-Paris-20240119-0020.html

Looks like I know who will win the Ballon d'Or next year  Roll Eyes
I wonder if almost 40-year-old men are not ashamed to go to a youth team competition? I know that there is an age limit but several players above this limit can be of any age, but what a shame it is. If Messi wants to prove something, maybe it would be easier to return to Europe and play? But no, he chooses some shameful ways to support the PR of his brand.
Hahaha everything will feel very easy for Messi because he is like golden boy by FIFA and Messi will be able to achieve what he wants even though that may be topic of conversation for many football fans.
But this will be different for Messi fans and they will still consider Messi as the best and Messi as the greatest star of all the existing players.
If he really takes part in the competition then it can be confirmed that there is another goal and of course this is about his name and career as football player, for some reason there are players who are full of protection from the top football federation officials.

It just that I not really sure whether he can get the Ballon d'Or in the future because the last award yesterday has caused negative sentiment and if that happens again then we will know what football fans are talking about and thinking about.

It looks like the PR people will be riding this dead horse for a long time - the America's Cup is ahead, plus, as we now know, the Olympics, so next year we can again give all the awards to Messi (if Argentina's performance is at least not terrible). Then in the USA they will invent, in addition to the League Cup, some other fucking tournament of third-rate teams and it will be possible to hold out until 2026 and the World Cup in America. Probably the medium-term goal is exactly this - for the largest competition you need great PR, and Messi, in whose PR FIFA has invested for decades, is ideal for this.

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April 20, 2024, 12:30:23 PM
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Recently Goal.com released news regarding the rankings of potential players who might be selected for the upcoming Ballon d'Or 2024 and ranked 20 players, reminder as this event will take appart in October 28th, 2024. Here's the list of the top 10 players:

1. Bellingham
2. Foden
3. Mbappé
4. Haaland
5. Rodri
6. Kane
7. Vinicius Jr
8. Griezmann
9. Wirtz
10. Saka

In my opinion, there is still time to determine this season's winner of the trophy. However, with Foden and Haaland already out of the Champions League getting disqualified by Bellingham's teammates, and Mbappé who sits at third place in the list, also passing to the semi-finals and scoring two goals against Barcelona, it's more likely that Bellingham and Mbappé have better chances for the trophy this year.
Although upcoming events may influence these players performances either positively or negatively, it’s likely that the winner of Champions League may have more chances for it.

News link: goal.com

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April 20, 2024, 12:45:02 PM
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Recently Goal.com released news regarding the rankings of potential players who might be selected for the upcoming Ballon d'Or 2024 and ranked 20 players, reminder as this event will take appart in October 28th, 2024. Here's the list of the top 10 players:

1. Bellingham
2. Foden
3. Mbappé
4. Haaland
5. Rodri
6. Kane
7. Vinicius Jr
8. Griezmann
9. Wirtz
10. Saka

In my opinion, there is still time to determine this season's winner of the trophy. However, with Foden and Haaland already out of the Champions League getting disqualified by Bellingham's teammates, and Mbappé who sits at third place in the list, also passing to the semi-finals and scoring two goals against Barcelona, it's more likely that Bellingham and Mbappé have better chances for the trophy this year.
Although upcoming events may influence these players performances either positively or negatively, it’s likely that the winner of Champions League may have more chances for it.

News link: goal.com

It seems to me that Mbappe will receive the award, but not because he deserves it, but because in a pair of Haaland and Foden/Rodri + Vinny and Bellingham, the players will take points from each other.
The only thing that can change this situation is if Bellingham or Vinny show something outstanding at the end of the season.
However, there is also Euro 2024, there are also chances to show off there.

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April 21, 2024, 06:50:59 AM
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Recently Goal.com released news regarding the rankings of potential players who might be selected for the upcoming Ballon d'Or 2024 and ranked 20 players, reminder as this event will take appart in October 28th, 2024. Here's the list of the top 10 players:

1. Bellingham
2. Foden
3. Mbappé
4. Haaland
5. Rodri
6. Kane
7. Vinicius Jr
8. Griezmann
9. Wirtz
10. Saka

In my opinion, there is still time to determine this season's winner of the trophy. However, with Foden and Haaland already out of the Champions League getting disqualified by Bellingham's teammates, and Mbappé who sits at third place in the list, also passing to the semi-finals and scoring two goals against Barcelona, it's more likely that Bellingham and Mbappé have better chances for the trophy this year.
Although upcoming events may influence these players performances either positively or negatively, it’s likely that the winner of Champions League may have more chances for it.

News link: goal.com

We have outstanding young players that's playing their best to ensure they grabbing good stats in major tournaments but unluckily for them, some favorable elite teams have been eliminated and most of the leading players on the lists are playing for this clubs. With the absence of Manchester City from the UEFA Champions League, that officially means Erling Haaland, Phil Foden and Rodri are out, we only have Harry Kane, Vinicius Junior, Jude Bellingham and Kylian Mbappe that will become rivals for the title run. I'm hoping to see Real Madrid vs Paris Saint-Germain in the UCL final this season. Ballon d'Or is an important award and entitlement for brilliant players.



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April 21, 2024, 11:32:23 AM
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Hahaha everything will feel very easy for Messi because he is like golden boy by FIFA and Messi will be able to achieve what he wants even though that may be topic of conversation for many football fans.
But this will be different for Messi fans and they will still consider Messi as the best and Messi as the greatest star of all the existing players.
If he really takes part in the competition then it can be confirmed that there is another goal and of course this is about his name and career as football player, for some reason there are players who are full of protection from the top football federation officials.

It just that I not really sure whether he can get the Ballon d'Or in the future because the last award yesterday has caused negative sentiment and if that happens again then we will know what football fans are talking about and thinking about.

It looks like the PR people will be riding this dead horse for a long time - the America's Cup is ahead, plus, as we now know, the Olympics, so next year we can again give all the awards to Messi (if Argentina's performance is at least not terrible). Then in the USA they will invent, in addition to the League Cup, some other fucking tournament of third-rate teams and it will be possible to hold out until 2026 and the World Cup in America. Probably the medium-term goal is exactly this - for the largest competition you need great PR, and Messi, in whose PR FIFA has invested for decades, is ideal for this.
With Inter Miami Messi has performed quite well this season and the team has also managed to temporarily top the standings even though last season they performed poorly in the MLS competition, but their performance in the League Cup was quite good.
This season, we don't know whether he will be the star who succeeds in bringing Inter Miami to the title race in several competitions or not, but what is clear is that Messi is not great player with Argentina.
He has now been left behind by several other much younger players and Messi just seems like player to complement Argentina alone.
Copa America has yet to start and the World Cup Qualifiers while they are top of the standings and Messi doesn't look like player who will really be at the heart of those achievements.
Maybe many people still consider him to be the best player with the most Ballon d'Or wins and who has succeeded in bringing Argentina to become World Cup champions, but I myself don't think he is as good as what he has achieved from these various titles.
I don't know whether it will remain the same or not, but if Messi gets it again, it will be clear that FIFA is not evaluating it fairly.

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It seems to me that Mbappe will receive the award, but not because he deserves it, but because in a pair of Haaland and Foden/Rodri + Vinny and Bellingham, the players will take points from each other.
The only thing that can change this situation is if Bellingham or Vinny show something outstanding at the end of the season.
However, there is also Euro 2024, there are also chances to show off there.
In my opinion, Bellingha has stronger chances of winning the Ballon d’Or trophy this season, especially after he eliminated Haaland and Foden from the UCL competition in the quarterfinals. His performance in last night's El Clasico was also impressive as he scored the winning goal against Barcelona, increasing his team's chances for the LaLiga trophy.

While Mbappe's performance wasn't as good against PSG, especially in the first leg match were he failed to help his team or create any chances against Barcelona, However, I think there's still time to determine who will perform well in Euro 2024 alongside the UCL trophy winner. These factors contribute to boosting the player chances, just like the last season when Messi won the Ballon d'Or because Argentina won the World Cup.

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