If we didnt had idiots blocking segwit we would be sittting on 4 figures by now

[thejaytiesto]

Even if we have some idiots still don't understanding we need segwit, the price is still rising and we are soon going to pass 778. If we had segwit activating faster, this would be more fuel for our rocket and we would reach moon 10 times faster. But the upraise cannot be stopped no matter what. ATH in new year guaranteed.

[BitHodler]

No need to rush things. It may take longer than people think, but eventually we will definitely get the price to touch the magical $1000 barrier.

All the volatility as result of the panic dumps allow traders to increase their coin count, and thus for that reason I am happily taking advantage of this opportunity.

All signs are bullish where only one of the major Chinese exchanges getting "hacked" with tons of coins getting lost can get the price to go down badly.

[thejaytiesto]

No need to rush things. It may take longer than people think, but eventually we will definitely get the price to touch the magical $1000 barrier.

All the volatility as result of the panic dumps allow traders to increase their coin count, and thus for that reason I am happily taking advantage of this opportunity.

All signs are bullish where only one of the major Chinese exchanges getting "hacked" with tons of coins getting lost can get the price to go down badly.

True, but all im saying is, if we didn't had roger ver with is anti segwit agenda, we would be rising way faster, once segwit gets activated and people see the benefits and 0 negatives, and once we have segwit we could even consider a blocksize increase, but we have idiots stagnating bitcoin's progress right now.

[European Central Bank]

well, there's gotta be a little more to it than one non techy agitator holding things up. i dunno how many miners and pool operators can understand a word he's saying anyway. they'll have done their own thinking and sums. i'd like to know what their conclusion was.

[BitcoinHodler]

Even if we have some idiots still don't understanding we need segwit, the price is still rising and we are soon going to pass 778. If we had segwit activating faster, this would be more fuel for our rocket and we would reach moon 10 times faster. But the upraise cannot be stopped no matter what. ATH in new year guaranteed.

this is also my speculation and i strongly believe in it. i say if/when the block size issue is resolved (with any suggestion not only segwit but anything that currently is available or may be suggested in the future) when it actually is accepted the price will see a huge rise and i will be waiting then to enjoy the ride to the fullest.

[tertius993]

Just to be clear "some idiots" are more than 70% of the network?

Seems to me there is probably a bit more to it than a few die hards.

[cpfreeplz]

No need to rush things. It may take longer than people think, but eventually we will definitely get the price to touch the magical $1000 barrier.

All the volatility as result of the panic dumps allow traders to increase their coin count, and thus for that reason I am happily taking advantage of this opportunity.

All signs are bullish where only one of the major Chinese exchanges getting "hacked" with tons of coins getting lost can get the price to go down badly.

True, but all im saying is, if we didn't had roger ver with is anti segwit agenda, we would be rising way faster, once segwit gets activated and people see the benefits and 0 negatives, and once we have segwit we could even consider a blocksize increase, but we have idiots stagnating bitcoin's progress right now.

I don't know... Are there really no negatives for anyone? Is that even possible? If the blocks are less full wouldn't the miners' fees be less?

Just to be clear "some idiots" are more than 70% of the network?

Seems to me there is probably a bit more to it than a few die hards.

It's only been out, what, a few weeks? People aren't going to rush to change if it's going ok for them.

[Decoded]

Segwit has only been partially activated for a couple of weeks. I predict it'll be mid 2017 before we see segwit adoption, or late 2017 before people give up on it completely.

There is tons of resistance against SegWit.

[pitham1]

Even if we have some idiots still don't understanding we need segwit, the price is still rising and we are soon going to pass 778. If we had segwit activating faster, this would be more fuel for our rocket and we would reach moon 10 times faster. But the upraise cannot be stopped no matter what. ATH in new year guaranteed.

If you think implementing Segwit can lead to the price reaching 4 figures quickly, think what increasing the block size would do.
Unfortunately, we have idiots blocking that as well. 

[BrewMaster]

Just to be clear "some idiots" are more than 70% of the network?

Seems to me there is probably a bit more to it than a few die hards.

It's only been out, what, a few weeks? People aren't going to rush to change if it's going ok for them.

it has been a lot longer than that, the signalling officially started recently (a couple of weeks ago) and "people" don't have to change anything it is miners who are signalling the change and should change to it not nodes.

p.s. i also think we would have broken $1000 resistance if Segwit was released.

[CraigWrightBTC]

Even if we have some idiots still don't understanding we need segwit, the price is still rising and we are soon going to pass 778. If we had segwit activating faster, this would be more fuel for our rocket and we would reach moon 10 times faster. But the upraise cannot be stopped no matter what. ATH in new year guaranteed.

This is reasons why the miners won't support for activation of segwit
SegWit and lightening network would freeze onchain scaling. And
 Lighting Network will cause centralization in offchain payment nodes, then the government could easily apply regulation.
The miners have made large money on mining business.

[notme]

No need to rush things. It may take longer than people think, but eventually we will definitely get the price to touch the magical $1000 barrier.

All the volatility as result of the panic dumps allow traders to increase their coin count, and thus for that reason I am happily taking advantage of this opportunity.

All signs are bullish where only one of the major Chinese exchanges getting "hacked" with tons of coins getting lost can get the price to go down badly.

True, but all im saying is, if we didn't had roger ver with is anti segwit agenda, we would be rising way faster, once segwit gets activated and people see the benefits and 0 negatives, and once we have segwit we could even consider a blocksize increase, but we have idiots stagnating bitcoin's progress right now.

Why is faster better?  Each time we get overheated and skyrocket we crash and burn.  And each time this happens, it spooks more people away from bitcoin and it takes longer for the market to recover.  Please tell me you are not just in this to get rich quick.

[Bobsurplus]

Forget Segwit, Swgwit dont move markets, marketmakers do.

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[pooya87]

Forget Segwit, Swgwit dont move markets, marketmakers too.

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that was obviously because of halving hype. the second block reward halving happened in July (2016-07-09 to be exact) and before that there were a long period of FUD to keep price down around $450 and accumulate and then the big pump came, if we want to see that again we need something as big as halving and if not the price will continue rising slowly as before.

[Bobsurplus]

Forget Segwit, Swgwit dont move markets, marketmakers too.

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that was obviously because of halving hype. the second block reward halving happened in July (2016-07-09 to be exact) and before that there were a long period of FUD to keep price down around $450 and accumulate and then the big pump came, if we want to see that again we need something as big as halving and if not the price will continue rising slowly as before.

You are misguided son. Never dismiss the power of the marketmaker aiming for new highs. The force is strong and very hard to fight. Let's see what happens in 20 days from now.

[pooya87]

Forget Segwit, Swgwit dont move markets, marketmakers too.

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that was obviously because of halving hype. the second block reward halving happened in July (2016-07-09 to be exact) and before that there were a long period of FUD to keep price down around $450 and accumulate and then the big pump came, if we want to see that again we need something as big as halving and if not the price will continue rising slowly as before.

You are misguided son. Never dismiss the power of the marketmaker aiming for new highs. The force is strong and very hard to fight. Let's see what happens in 20 days from now.

/u/RemindMe! 20 days

[MingLee]

Even if we have some idiots still don't understanding we need segwit, the price is still rising and we are soon going to pass 778. If we had segwit activating faster, this would be more fuel for our rocket and we would reach moon 10 times faster. But the upraise cannot be stopped no matter what. ATH in new year guaranteed.

Maybe we would, maybe we wouldn't. For now I think that it is beneficial to keep a steady pace and make sure everyone understands what it is before just diving into it. Some of the concerns put forth are legitimate (mostly based around the control given to the small group of devs), but I do understand a lot of the sentiment with wanting to push it through and change to segwit.

[Herbert2020]

Even if we have some idiots still don't understanding we need segwit, the price is still rising and we are soon going to pass 778. If we had segwit activating faster, this would be more fuel for our rocket and we would reach moon 10 times faster. But the upraise cannot be stopped no matter what. ATH in new year guaranteed.

i somehow doubt that. because price was and it still is in $700 range and we have been here not for a long time and there is always a slow and boring period before any rise, it can not happen without it and also a $300 rise is not an easy task to achieve.

then add to that the fact that $1000 is somewhat iconic price that many are waiting to cash out at that price which will make a period of instability which makes breaking the $1000 resistance a lot harder than it should be.

[btcxyzzz]

Read about SegWit poison pill. If we hadn't Blockstream, now we would be sitting at 50K.

[1Referee]

Read about SegWit poison pill. If we hadn't Blockstream, now we would be sitting at 50K.

And if MtGox was still using its bots to pump the price with non existing money, then we would sit at $100K right now. That kind of talk doesn't make any sense. Fact is that we are sitting at very comfortable price levels right now. Who beside a few noobs do you see complaining? No one. Current price is a very fair reflection of the current situation and progress. There are zero guarantees of course, but at the time Segwit gets activated, then we (with a high probability) can expect the price to pump even further. But as it is right now, there is no date set for the activation.