WinBIts (OP)
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December 13, 2016, 08:59:46 AM |
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what happen if the wallet deposit amount never reaches 0.1 BTC, I remember there was one site not long ago that promise to draw lottery when the prize is over $1000 usd but the draw never happen at all because the wallet never reach $1000 usd So I guess the people that buy the lottery tickets is donating free money to the owner Im looking for a trusted escrow on this forum, to keep the wallets and for the drawing so everybody will be sure the bitcoins are for the players and not for me.. give me some time to complete the big draw page for 1btc (ticket price 0.01btc) when that is ready i will give the escrow the wallets or he gives me 2 wallets we can use and we are ready to go! there will be a maximum of 10 tickets/person if you know someone with a good trust rate here let me know pls Maybe Ognasty and sebastianju can help you with that if you plan to hold the funds on escrow since they are the more trusted guy out here and they've been holding huge funds from their clients thats why much better that you must select on those two mentioned names so your funds will not be in danger, and surely it can gain more trust if these guy will held on. Oke thanks i will contact them, what do people think about the concept ? There will be no House fee, but maybe a small % for the escrow service. Ill update the post as soon we have a escrow
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WinBIts (OP)
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December 13, 2016, 09:20:53 AM |
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i have send pm to some escrow will update when we have one. All ideas and suggestions are welcome
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BTCevo
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December 13, 2016, 01:00:59 PM |
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what happen if the wallet deposit amount never reaches 0.1 BTC, I remember there was one site not long ago that promise to draw lottery when the prize is over $1000 usd but the draw never happen at all because the wallet never reach $1000 usd So I guess the people that buy the lottery tickets is donating free money to the owner Im looking for a trusted escrow on this forum, to keep the wallets and for the drawing so everybody will be sure the bitcoins are for the players and not for me.. give me some time to complete the big draw page for 1btc (ticket price 0.01btc) when that is ready i will give the escrow the wallets or he gives me 2 wallets we can use and we are ready to go! there will be a maximum of 10 tickets/person if you know someone with a good trust rate here let me know pls Maximum 10 tickets for each? So how about each people have 2 id with 2 different addresses? Do you allow this to happens? Because what i really saw right now people might abuse it with this kind of trick like they do on some giveaway. And you not even answer my question back there. How do you really mean by 0.1 guarantee for each person? After each wallet filled in with 0.1 btc you will start to draw? So how can each people can get that guarantee winning here?
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WinBIts (OP)
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December 13, 2016, 01:17:38 PM |
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what happen if the wallet deposit amount never reaches 0.1 BTC, I remember there was one site not long ago that promise to draw lottery when the prize is over $1000 usd but the draw never happen at all because the wallet never reach $1000 usd So I guess the people that buy the lottery tickets is donating free money to the owner Im looking for a trusted escrow on this forum, to keep the wallets and for the drawing so everybody will be sure the bitcoins are for the players and not for me.. give me some time to complete the big draw page for 1btc (ticket price 0.01btc) when that is ready i will give the escrow the wallets or he gives me 2 wallets we can use and we are ready to go! there will be a maximum of 10 tickets/person if you know someone with a good trust rate here let me know pls Maximum 10 tickets for each? So how about each people have 2 id with 2 different addresses? Do you allow this to happens? Because what i really saw right now people might abuse it with this kind of trick like they do on some giveaway. And you not even answer my question back there. How do you really mean by 0.1 guarantee for each person? After each wallet filled in with 0.1 btc you will start to draw? So how can each people can get that guarantee winning here? i will try to aswer your question have not read everything yet. I have found a escrow from this forum post will be updated this hour with better info..
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WinBIts (OP)
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December 13, 2016, 01:35:02 PM |
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Post updated! Escrow used ! Dont forget to post your tx links here so the escrow can put them in the list!
Have fun playing and good luck everyone!
mention you can buy as many tickets as you want like said earlier its unpossible to prevent abusing that. But still if one person buys 99 tickets he has still 1% chance to loose it all.
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December 13, 2016, 02:00:11 PM |
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I would like to confirm being chosen to be the escrow for the two mentioned jackpot games: http://bitcoin-gamez.com/ 1 BTC and 0.1 BTC jacpot games. My BTCitcoin address: 1Gm5K2H2fjD2oiTn4rWC5GwQMn2xMUBc5g -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- I, SFR10 of bitcointalk.org, would like to confirm being chosen to be the escrow for the two mentioned jackpot games (today is 12/13/2016): http://bitcoin-gamez.com/ 1[btc] and 0.1[btc] jacpot games. Address to be sent to: 1Gm5K2H2fjD2oiTn4rWC5GwQMn2xMUBc5g -----BEGIN SIGNATURE----- 1Gm5K2H2fjD2oiTn4rWC5GwQMn2xMUBc5g H3SnPLBgMOq1EQ/huEGb+V96+t3Px9kaAa/fF4mH/YhJFisezYLYGLK0XJvVenRLavhneVJxggPw+LhrUA9lWjQ= -----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- Spreadsheet for 1BTC JackpotSpreadsheet for 0.1BTC Jackpot
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December 13, 2016, 03:32:09 PM |
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WinBIts (OP)
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December 13, 2016, 03:46:57 PM |
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Thank you for participating i wish you good luck!
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SFR10
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December 13, 2016, 03:56:44 PM Last edit: December 13, 2016, 04:45:46 PM by SFR10 |
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Why have you send the 0.01 BTC to the donation address instead of mine? WinBIts could you delete the donation address, it's clearly misleading users. Update:Thank you, I appreciate it.
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WinBIts (OP)
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December 13, 2016, 04:19:45 PM |
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Why have you send the 0.01 BTC to the donation address instead of mine? WinBIts could you delete the donation address, it's clearly misleading users. i see i will send it true to the right wallet for this time im sorry!
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December 13, 2016, 04:27:43 PM Last edit: December 14, 2016, 06:48:51 AM by ralle14 |
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WinBIts (OP)
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December 13, 2016, 04:30:34 PM |
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yes thats no problem, just be sure you make 1 transaction at the time and dont forget to send your tx link in this thread
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December 13, 2016, 06:20:49 PM |
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Good to see the funds is escrowed but did I miss something here on how the winner will be chosen? I only see "will put the txid on randomizer" What kind of randomizer? Can we verify the draw of the winner? Just to make sure it is a provably fair lottery, otherwise the use of escrow will be useless if it is not provably fair.
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Vikingr
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December 13, 2016, 06:40:55 PM |
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I appreciate SFR for taking this job. sometimes some escrow do not have time for taking this type of escrow and do not care that for the owner of the game and for the participants it is a much important business. Good Luck all
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WinBIts (OP)
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December 13, 2016, 06:49:24 PM |
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Good to see the funds is escrowed but did I miss something here on how the winner will be chosen? I only see "will put the txid on randomizer" What kind of randomizer? Can we verify the draw of the winner? Just to make sure it is a provably fair lottery, otherwise the use of escrow will be useless if it is not provably fair.
Notarizing the ticket list: Before a draw all participating tickets (tx id's) are collected into a file. The file is created by the escrow Notarizing the draw: the draw is done on Random.org, the drawing is attested by Notary Virtual Service At the end of the run the draw and the notary records are publishes Record draws on blockchain: All drawings shall be recorded in the blockchain to stay for good! This procedure ensures that the Lucky Numbers Bitcoin lottery is fair and proveably. Me or the escrow will NOT participate into this game. its 100% for the bitcointalk members only! good luck
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December 14, 2016, 02:09:54 AM |
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Notarizing the ticket list: Before a draw all participating tickets (tx id's) are collected into a file. The file is created by the escrow
Notarizing the draw: the draw is done on Random.org, the drawing is attested by Notary Virtual Service At the end of the run the draw and the notary records are publishes
Record draws on blockchain: All drawings shall be recorded in the blockchain to stay for good!
This procedure ensures that the Lucky Numbers Bitcoin lottery is fair and proveably.
Not provably fair. It's very easy for you to re-draw with the service as you are allowed to do as many as you want AFAIK, and you can participate using an alt account, keep drawing, until you win. It isn't what I would call "fair", because the site could cheat, random.org could cheat and you can cheat. Please learn what provably fair really is. I can help you with a provably fair method if you'd like.
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taking a break - expect delayed responses
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December 14, 2016, 05:52:16 AM |
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Notarizing the ticket list: Before a draw all participating tickets (tx id's) are collected into a file. The file is created by the escrow
Notarizing the draw: the draw is done on Random.org, the drawing is attested by Notary Virtual Service At the end of the run the draw and the notary records are publishes
Record draws on blockchain: All drawings shall be recorded in the blockchain to stay for good!
This procedure ensures that the Lucky Numbers Bitcoin lottery is fair and proveably.
Not provably fair. It's very easy for you to re-draw with the service as you are allowed to do as many as you want AFAIK, and you can participate using an alt account, keep drawing, until you win. It isn't what I would call "fair", because the site could cheat, random.org could cheat and you can cheat. Please learn what provably fair really is. I can help you with a provably fair method if you'd like. I second this. There's plenty of ways you can do this so that nobody can alter the results. This could be done by utilizing the blockchain for example. Perhaps Darkstar will go more into detail though
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WinBIts (OP)
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December 14, 2016, 06:09:02 AM |
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Notarizing the ticket list: Before a draw all participating tickets (tx id's) are collected into a file. The file is created by the escrow
Notarizing the draw: the draw is done on Random.org, the drawing is attested by Notary Virtual Service At the end of the run the draw and the notary records are publishes
Record draws on blockchain: All drawings shall be recorded in the blockchain to stay for good!
This procedure ensures that the Lucky Numbers Bitcoin lottery is fair and proveably.
Not provably fair. It's very easy for you to re-draw with the service as you are allowed to do as many as you want AFAIK, and you can participate using an alt account, keep drawing, until you win. It isn't what I would call "fair", because the site could cheat, random.org could cheat and you can cheat. Please learn what provably fair really is. I can help you with a provably fair method if you'd like. You are welcome to help with a better provably system if you now any, i understand the people there are allot of scams around... i just want to create something that brings people to my website's.. I can let someone very trusted from the forum here let do the draw. or the escrow can do the draw.. i dont think random.org will cheat cause they have nothing to win here .. anyway im not planning to cheat or steal a penny from someone so all provably systems are welcome ! regards
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December 14, 2016, 08:17:59 AM |
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Notarizing the ticket list: Before a draw all participating tickets (tx id's) are collected into a file. The file is created by the escrow
Notarizing the draw: the draw is done on Random.org, the drawing is attested by Notary Virtual Service At the end of the run the draw and the notary records are publishes
Record draws on blockchain: All drawings shall be recorded in the blockchain to stay for good!
This procedure ensures that the Lucky Numbers Bitcoin lottery is fair and proveably.
Not provably fair. It's very easy for you to re-draw with the service as you are allowed to do as many as you want AFAIK, and you can participate using an alt account, keep drawing, until you win. It isn't what I would call "fair", because the site could cheat, random.org could cheat and you can cheat. Please learn what provably fair really is. I can help you with a provably fair method if you'd like. You are welcome to help with a better provably system if you now any, i understand the people there are allot of scams around... i just want to create something that brings people to my website's.. I can let someone very trusted from the forum here let do the draw. or the escrow can do the draw.. i dont think random.org will cheat cause they have nothing to win here .. anyway im not planning to cheat or steal a penny from someone so all provably systems are welcome ! regards You could use bitcoin block hashes to generate random numbers. Perhaps set a time and date when you will be choosing the winner and pick the next block after that time. Then apply some kind of an algorithm (similar to those on dice sites) to generate a number using the bitcoin block hash. This is how Rollin.io does their lottery (details on their site). I'm not 100% sure I understood all of it correctly but there's plenty of people with more insight on the forum that could help you out.
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