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December 15, 2016, 05:09:52 AM |
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If these aren't going to be funded, couldn't you engrave our vanity address (like you said) and send us the coin so we can put the hologram on?
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December 15, 2016, 05:12:53 AM |
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If these aren't going to be funded, couldn't you engrave our vanity address (like you said) and send us the coin so we can put the hologram on?
Letting holograms out into the wild is a bad idea. Then the coins can never be resold as funded.
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December 15, 2016, 06:16:23 AM |
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If these aren't going to be funded, couldn't you engrave our vanity address (like you said) and send us the coin so we can put the hologram on?
Letting holograms out into the wild is a bad idea. Then the coins can never be resold as funded. I don't understand that. Each coin will have a unique public engraved key on it. And instead of trusting OP with the key you would be trusting the person selling it. If OP would let me provide my own public key and send me the hologram to put on I'll agree to never resell the coin. I also had the thought of what if the private key was encrypted and engraved?
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December 15, 2016, 12:00:49 PM |
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#20 please and thanks
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December 15, 2016, 12:46:52 PM |
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If these aren't going to be funded, couldn't you engrave our vanity address (like you said) and send us the coin so we can put the hologram on?
Sure, whatever you are comfortable with, this doesn't change the configuration of the coin to me as the seller. However, a couple of folks have messaged me about funding some coins. This is something I'll talk to MT about, as I'm not sure doing it on a coin to coin basis is best. With that, there would have to be a coherency in which ones would be funded so people with certain SN's would have to agree they would want a funded coin as well. It gets a little dicey. Newktown, I got you. Sorry I was updating from my phone with constant interruptions yesterday.
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December 15, 2016, 04:37:45 PM |
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If these aren't going to be funded, couldn't you engrave our vanity address (like you said) and send us the coin so we can put the hologram on?
Sure, whatever you are comfortable with, this doesn't change the configuration of the coin to me as the seller. However, a couple of folks have messaged me about funding some coins. This is something I'll talk to MT about, as I'm not sure doing it on a coin to coin basis is best. With that, there would have to be a coherency in which ones would be funded so people with certain SN's would have to agree they would want a funded coin as well. It gets a little dicey. Newktown, I got you. Sorry I was updating from my phone with constant interruptions yesterday. I would highly recommend against shipping out a coin without the hologram applied. This will hurt the value of all coins in the future. If someone cannot know for sure that an intact hologram means that the private key is behind it, the coin is no longer fungible. You should be solely responsible for the private keys.
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December 15, 2016, 04:50:52 PM |
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I am so happy to see we have so many interested in this coin. Natty and I have already been in early stages of discussion on our next design you can expect we stick with the 5 oz of silver so we have the canvas to do another sick detailed design ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif)
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December 15, 2016, 04:53:55 PM |
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I have no issue with funding a coin in before we ship it but I do agree all holograms need to be installed by us to ensure the private keys are secure if the coins were ever to be resold. Natty and I have also discussed the idea of funding all coins from one of our unique vanity addresses and use that same address for all coins now and moving forward. They buyer would need to provide the coins they would like funded to me prior to us shipping the coin. I might suggest we do a certificate of Authenticity signed by me with a hologram indicating the coins public serial numbers and its pre funded value
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December 15, 2016, 05:05:25 PM |
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Dont forget how Smoothie has done 'Buyer Funded' laser etching on any holos not funded, as a way of selling unfunded Lealana coins. (ie private key is made, noticeably different holo is applied over the top, but no funds deposited)
Agree with Coblee. Sending none stuck holos out - the same holos that would be stuck on funded coins - wouldnt be good
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December 15, 2016, 05:49:46 PM |
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I have no issue with funding a coin in before we ship it but I do agree all holograms need to be installed by us to ensure the private keys are secure if the coins were ever to be resold. Natty and I have also discussed the idea of funding all coins from one of our unique vanity addresses and use that same address for all coins now and moving forward. They buyer would need to provide the coins they would like funded to me prior to us shipping the coin. I might suggest we do a certificate of Authenticity signed by me with a hologram indicating the coins public serial numbers and its pre funded value
I think a COA for all the coins, funded or not, would be great ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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FFrankie
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December 15, 2016, 07:29:22 PM |
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Alright so my final question is any idea how much the funded amount would be? And I didn't clearly understand if sending you an encrypted private key for my unique vanity address would be okay
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NattyLiteCoin (OP)
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December 15, 2016, 07:35:05 PM |
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I'm working on the COA.
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December 15, 2016, 08:46:36 PM |
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#33 please
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December 16, 2016, 05:54:59 AM |
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I think pre-funding is a good idea, but I don't think everyone buying will agree to it being funded or want a funded coin. Maybe you can engrave the coin or laser etch the hologram "funded" or "not funded". Or, come up with something creative and different for this. Maybe a "liberty" symbol/stamp of some sort somewhere on the hologram, since this is what the coin stands for if I am not mistaken. Maybe... 25 LTC and 0.125 BTC? Or, 50 LTC and 0.25 BTC? <-- I vote for this amount. Or, 100 LTC and 0.50 BTC? I think any more than that, people will be turned off by the funding amount.
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December 16, 2016, 01:02:53 PM |
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I think pre-funding is a good idea, but I don't think everyone buying will agree to it being funded or want a funded coin. Maybe you can engrave the coin or laser etch the hologram "funded" or "not funded". Or, come up with something creative and different for this. Maybe a "liberty" symbol/stamp of some sort somewhere on the hologram, since this is what the coin stands for if I am not mistaken.
Given that there is no denomination on the coin, I personally feel it wouldn't be appropriate to sell them funded. I'd also rather my coin didn't have "not funded" printed on the hologram. The public address is listed on the coin so that the balance and history can be checked. Not to mention a "not funded" coin could be funded in the future, and then you have a lying hologram. I'd say if people want them sold funded, perhaps adding a "funded" mark on the coin might be appropriate, but I'd rather my not funded coin remained clean and unmarked.
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December 16, 2016, 01:26:15 PM |
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#44-47 reserved.
Talked with MT and were amenable to loading, but will NOT engrave the value on the coin. With that being said, maybe I'm just too new to understand why a coin loaded by us is different them a self funded wallet. As for amounts, I was always thinking that .21BTC 84 LTC would be nice 🙃
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December 16, 2016, 04:36:15 PM |
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#44-47 reserved.
Talked with MT and were amenable to loading, but will NOT engrave the value on the coin. With that being said, maybe I'm just too new to understand why a coin loaded by us is different them a self funded wallet. As for amounts, I was always thinking that .21BTC 84 LTC would be nice 🙃
21 and 84, I see what you did there ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I do not want any funding, and I agree with Ognasty that marking the coins as funded/unfunded is a bad idea.
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December 16, 2016, 04:46:53 PM |
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I think pre-funding is a good idea, but I don't think everyone buying will agree to it being funded or want a funded coin. Maybe you can engrave the coin or laser etch the hologram "funded" or "not funded". Or, come up with something creative and different for this. Maybe a "liberty" symbol/stamp of some sort somewhere on the hologram, since this is what the coin stands for if I am not mistaken.
Given that there is no denomination on the coin, I personally feel it wouldn't be appropriate to sell them funded. I'd also rather my coin didn't have "not funded" printed on the hologram. The public address is listed on the coin so that the balance and history can be checked. Not to mention a "not funded" coin could be funded in the future, and then you have a lying hologram. I'd say if people want them sold funded, perhaps adding a "funded" mark on the coin might be appropriate, but I'd rather my not funded coin remained clean and unmarked. Fully agree with this post by OgNasty. I like the amounts you are considering Natty, 0.21 BTC and 84 LTC sounds great. I would probably go for the funding. That said, a mark to show they were funded would be wise, and for the unfunded ones, no mark at all. I really don't want "Buyer Funded" on that beautiful hologram if I choose later to not have it funded (or if I choose to fund it myself). Thanks for bringing us this awesome looking coin. Really impressed with it. P.S - I never heard back about my offer for 00 and 01 ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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December 16, 2016, 08:45:09 PM |
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#44-47 reserved.
Talked with MT and were amenable to loading, but will NOT engrave the value on the coin. With that being said, maybe I'm just too new to understand why a coin loaded by us is different them a self funded wallet. As for amounts, I was always thinking that .21BTC 84 LTC would be nice 🙃
Sounds good. I will likely fund mine if these are the amounts.
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I'm interested in #39! ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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