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December 16, 2016, 04:17:48 AM
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I found many accounts here in the campaign who got negative trust for multiple accounts to have .
But I am confused why people are making multiple accounts , As we can get the same amount of Bitcoin per post in the campaign , So if we want earn Bitcoin than we can do the same with single account only .
what you think guys .
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Edited : According to all replies , we can make multiple accounts

Now I want ask , can we use only single adress in all multiple accounts .

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December 16, 2016, 04:32:28 AM
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Actualy, they its not illegal to have multiple account here. You are free to have another account here if you want. Its account farming. They use it for signature campaigns in able to them to have much profit. Sometimes they create account just to scam users here. Many have encountered this kind of modus. Dont trust newbies here if you dont want to be a victim. Sometimes they sell those accounts to earn. Its not illegal but buying accounts are not encourage here.
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December 16, 2016, 04:45:05 AM
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To cheat everyone and make few bucks a week or sell those accounts, if you think the amount of people that don't have work or those who are lazy enough to don't get a job, that's why. At least Lauda, Yahoo and Lutpin are trying to ban from signature campaigns those guys.
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December 16, 2016, 04:45:16 AM
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I found many accounts here in the campaign who got negative trust for multiple accounts to have .
But I am confused why people are making multiple accounts ,

Simple. To gain more, whether thru campaign or selling it to earn more, the older your account is, the higher the value, provided that it is a clean account, actually nothing prohibits anyone from creating account here.


 As we can get the same amount of Bitcoin per post in the campaign , So if we want earn Bitcoin than we can do the same with single account only .
what you think guys .

No, some people here create many account, because they could post more than the limit the signature campaign they are enrolled allow. Recently I saw one participant that could almost post 70+ post, necro bumping old replies to a thread and even make double post in a single thread, I wonder if that was banned already.


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December 16, 2016, 04:54:24 AM
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Actualy, they its not illegal to have multiple account here. You are free to have another account here if you want. Its account farming. They use it for signature campaigns in able to them to have much profit. Sometimes they create account just to scam users here. Many have encountered this kind of modus. Dont trust newbies here if you dont want to be a victim. Sometimes they sell those accounts to earn. Its not illegal but buying accounts are not encourage here.
It's more accurate to say don't trust anyone because no one really is trustable here. You can't trust someone just because they are using a high rank account. One reason why account farming and selling accounts are not supported by eeryone because scammers can buy and sell accounts anytime that tey want. That is why most users being caught with multiple accounts receive negative feedbacks.

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December 16, 2016, 05:34:32 AM
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Their point on having multiple account here in this forum is because they don't want to waste their time. After finishing the required post or the post that they are making in day, they are switching their account to the other one that they have to post again. Why? because they want to multiply their profit or earnings weekly or monthly by doing signature campaign and mostly this situation occurs when there is a signature campaign that pays really good compare to the other signature campaigns here, that is why most of the bitcoin users here apply their other accounts on the same campaign which is illegal and against the rules on this forum that is why they have got a negative trust causing them having a hard time on enrolling on other signature campaign.

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December 17, 2016, 01:12:38 PM
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To cheat everyone and make few bucks a week or sell those accounts, if you think the amount of people that don't have work or those who are lazy enough to don't get a job, that's why. At least Lauda, Yahoo and Lutpin are trying to ban from signature campaigns those guys.
I don't think creating multiple account here can be called a cheat or used for scamming.
The main reason of creating multiple account here is to allow them to promote more for them to earn more.
I don't see anything wrong about that as long as their purpose isn't abusive and doesn't harm others.

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December 17, 2016, 01:39:24 PM
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I don't think creating multiple account here can be called a cheat or used for scamming.
Using multiple accounts (especially in enrolled in the same signature campaign) is the very definition of cheating. In 99% of the cases there is no good reason/enough constructiveness to justify it.


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December 17, 2016, 02:50:51 PM
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I don't think creating multiple account here can be called a cheat or used for scamming.
Using multiple accounts (especially in enrolled in the same signature campaign) is the very definition of cheating. In 99% of the cases there is no good reason/enough constructiveness to justify it.

But if honest members share their accounts with their siblings or friends, and if they (siblings or friends) use that account to enroll in another signature campaign, will it still be considered cheating? Smiley

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December 17, 2016, 02:53:16 PM
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But if honest members share their accounts with their siblings or friends, and if they (siblings or friends) use that account to enroll in another signature campaign, will it still be considered cheating? Smiley
The forum does not need whole third world families posting useless content in order to get paid. I've always advocated that one should join a campaign to get a bonus for contributing, not to get paid. As soon as you join a campaign solely to get paid, you are likely already doing it wrong (and part of the problem; exclusions apply).


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December 17, 2016, 02:55:51 PM
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I personally have two accounts. This one is the main one that I use for signature campaign. Another one (inTech) is use to post in topics that my signature campaign do not count into. There is two reasons. One, to reduce my signature campaign manager workload. Two, so that I can promote my own sites in my signature tag in forums like Off-topic and Micro earning. :p.

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But if honest members share their accounts with their siblings or friends, and if they (siblings or friends) use that account to enroll in another signature campaign, will it still be considered cheating? Smiley
The forum does not need whole third world families posting useless content in order to get paid. I've always advocated that one should join a campaign to get a bonus for contributing, not to get paid. As soon as you join a campaign solely to get paid, you are likely already doing it wrong (and part of the problem; exclusions apply).

Whether third world or first world, even people from the best countries are here to earn.
Signature campaigns are a job and a job is done to get a reward, or in other words, bonus is what you said for "contributing".
The ones who are here ^solely^ to get paid are already creating multiple accounts for the purpose already mentioned in the OP here.
But let me ask my question clearly: Alt allowed a chance to post "USEFUL" content in order to get a contribution reward in another signature campaign?

As I don't think that this would be considered cheating or spamming, if they are honestly contributing to the community and being rewarded. Still, what's your opinion on this? Can't siblings or families use the same PC and even share their wallets in order to use their accounts to contribute in their own ways? I don't think anything is wrong here, at least they are not like others who create 100s of accounts and use bots in order to boost their post count and spam the forum hard.

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December 17, 2016, 03:03:53 PM
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Almost every users who have multiple accounts here have same goal which is to earn more bitcoin by join signature campaign and make lots of posts (or spam).
The few others do that because they want to scam others or sell it later.

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But let me ask my question clearly: Alt allowed a chance to post "USEFUL" content in order to get a contribution reward in another signature campaign?
Yes and no. Some campaigns, like the one that you are in have pretty decent limits. There are only very rare cases of people that are able to post >100 posts a week that are really constructive. I am probably okay with 1-2 alts. Anything above that likely causes semi-good/bad post quality.

As I don't think that this would be considered cheating or spamming, if they are honestly contributing to the community and being rewarded. Still, what's your opinion on this?
Honestly spewing nonsense != contributing.

Can't siblings or families use the same PC and even share their wallets in order to use their accounts to contribute in their own ways?
Big no. This only makes the problem more complex with :"No, that's not my account. It's my sister, brother, mom, dad, third aunt. Ban her, not me."


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December 17, 2016, 03:41:51 PM
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But let me ask my question clearly: Alt allowed a chance to post "USEFUL" content in order to get a contribution reward in another signature campaign?
Yes and no. Some campaigns, like the one that you are in have pretty decent limits. There are only very rare cases of people that are able to post >100 posts a week that are really constructive. I am probably okay with 1-2 alts. Anything above that likely causes semi-good/bad post quality.

As I don't think that this would be considered cheating or spamming, if they are honestly contributing to the community and being rewarded. Still, what's your opinion on this?
Honestly spewing nonsense != contributing.

Can't siblings or families use the same PC and even share their wallets in order to use their accounts to contribute in their own ways?
Big no. This only makes the problem more complex with :"No, that's not my account. It's my sister, brother, mom, dad, third aunt. Ban her, not me."

Seriously, your replies confuse me sometimes. Tongue
But still, if 1 - 2 alts are fine and in different signature campaigns, then this is now a clarification to all those who are trying to join same campaigns with more than 10 - 20 accounts and trying to create a fortune by cheating the forum and not following the rules.
I know that this also is not a good thing to go with an alt, but I think that if not "spewing nonsense" but contributing with a good heart, there should be a chance for real users whether same or that ^THIRD AUNT^ Wink  Grin, in order to make well constructive posts with alts, not in same but different signature campaigns.

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Seriously, your replies confuse me sometimes. Tongue
But still, if 1 - 2 alts are fine and in different signature campaigns, then this is now a clarification to all those who are trying to join same campaigns with more than 10 - 20 accounts and trying to create a fortune by cheating the forum and not following the rules.

Spammers as of now are probably unlikely to change their posting habits - they will still be spam, whether they have 1 account or 70. If you usually create constructive posts and go on to create a second account, is it really likely that you will start posting shit and littering up the forum? Not very.

I know that this also is not a good thing to go with an alt, but I think that if not "spewing nonsense" but contributing with a good heart, there should be a chance for real users whether same or that ^THIRD AUNT^ Wink  Grin, in order to make well constructive posts with alts, not in same but different signature campaigns.

Nothing should be shared, even if you are family. This only makes trying to prove that there are distinct individuals involved more difficult if not impossible. If you are pooling together resources, what's the big deal with using different wallets? Sure, there's an additional transaction fee per individual if you're all trying to exchange your collected amounts at the end of the month, but then consider it tax - it's much better than being accused of having alts, cheating campaigns, and then being unable to prove it with your only evidence being words - "that was my aunt".

Nobody can believe that. Different accounts, different wallets. If you're sharing the same IP, then it encourages EVERYBODY to post at a higher quality lest all of the accounts be banned... but then again, most IPs that have multiple accounts are not the cause of families but rather a single person.

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December 17, 2016, 04:10:32 PM
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But still, if 1 - 2 alts are fine and in different signature campaigns,
I said for me. There are some valid reasons to have at least 1 alt. My sanity limit would be around 2-3 max (on a case-by-case basis). Others may have differentiating views regarding this.

I know that this also is not a good thing to go with an alt, but I think that if not "spewing nonsense" but contributing with a good heart, there should be a chance for real users whether same or that ^THIRD AUNT^ Wink  Grin,
Spewing nonsense with a good heart = still spewing nonsense. Even if your intentions are not malicious, you may be a part of the problem. The forum does not need to hear your 'good heart' useless replies.


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December 17, 2016, 05:03:12 PM
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I don't think creating multiple account here can be called a cheat or used for scamming.
Using multiple accounts (especially in enrolled in the same signature campaign) is the very definition of cheating. In 99% of the cases there is no good reason/enough constructiveness to justify it.

How come using multiple accounts is cheating? Let's drop the account farming and signatures for a second here. There are several reasons behind having another account that I can think of, like posting controversial opinions you don't want to be associated with. If you're using a forum as a platform to conduct business, you may not want your clients to know your views on politics, taxes, sex, and so on.
I've also seen negative trust being used as a leverage in a discussion, so some people may be afraid to argue with high trusted users from their main accounts (especially if that account is in a signature campaign).
  


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December 17, 2016, 06:05:07 PM
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I don't think creating multiple account here can be called a cheat or used for scamming.
Using multiple accounts (especially in enrolled in the same signature campaign) is the very definition of cheating. In 99% of the cases there is no good reason/enough constructiveness to justify it.
False. If you are using multiple accounts in the same signature campaign then you are still making the same number of posts with an advertisement underneath it as if you were using a single account. If a company is paying for 50 posts in a month then that is what they will get regardless of how many accounts are used in the process.

You could argue that using multiple accounts leads to lower quality posts then as a signature campaign manager you should do a better job of screening your applicants.

The *only* reason why a signature campaign manager might utilize and enforce a one person one account rule is to farm/build trust. When you payout several people their signature campaign earnings there is a chance that each person will leave a positive trust rating and if you are receiving a lot of positive trust ratings then you have an increased chance that one or some of them will have a high trust reputation in the future (e.g. Will be in the DefaultTrust network) if they do not already have high trust reputation. On the other hand, if one person has several accounts in a single signature campaign then the campaign manager will probably only receive a single rating from one of that person's accounts.

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December 17, 2016, 06:47:47 PM
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How come using multiple accounts is cheating? Let's drop the account farming and signatures for a second here.
Read my posts before responding:

I said for me. There are some valid reasons to have at least 1 alt. My sanity limit would be around 2-3 max (on a case-by-case basis). Others may have differentiating views regarding this.
This includes the reasons that you've mentioned.

False. If you are using multiple accounts in the same signature campaign then you are still making the same number of posts with an advertisement underneath it as if you were using a single account. If a company is paying for 50 posts in a month then that is what they will get regardless of how many accounts are used in the process.
Two accounts (same person) x 50 posts per account in (e.g. Bitmixer) = 50 posts total. QS Math.

The *only* reason why a signature campaign manager might utilize and enforce a one person one account rule is to farm/build trust.
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