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December 16, 2016, 07:25:31 PM
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For a long time I have wanted to find a way to employ the homeless that would not be based on paying a minimum wage but would also create some kind of value to be self-supporting.  There are a lot of basic things that create some degree of value, such as "Internet real estate" which can be seen as search engine rankings on various keywords, or affiliate standings (even for credits for free advertising on things like traffic exchanges, safelists, and the like). 

I've posted below a sheet I've given out to the homeless for over ten years.  Recently I gave it stapled over three blank sheets in a booklet form with a new pen.   I have gotten much feedback how it has been helpful.   It goes to show a positive thinking, success/motivational thinking mindset applied to the problem of homelessness. 

I have achieved many things in my life so I don't start things unless I know I can finish them.   I put this out there to network with similar thinking individuals who have achieved some things in life and believe that something has to be done to stop people from destroying themselves.  What I propose would be tiered, that is, it would screen people that were actively trying to better themselves.   There would be incentives for achievement, and a lot would be centered on education and coaching. 

So, I'm not really looking for anything right now except build up a network of people who think like this.   I also wrote some more econoic ideas here: http://www.paramind.net/new_education_new_economy.html   and I have more on the works about building social capital, which is a new concept in social science and something the homeless have very little of.

Homeless Education Project -- How the Homeless Can Find a Home

This is a short help written primarily for the homeless to understand their situation better. It is also written for advocates of the homeless and concerned citizens to help the homeless understand their situation. Some of the homeless may not be able to focus and read a booklet such as this so it is the task of others to help them understand.

It's a very interesting situation now to think about homelessness in America. Millions of dollars are pumped into this cause every year yet there are still many who will die on the street because of extremities in weather and inadequate medical attention. While it is true that there are not always enough beds to go around, many of the problems of the homeless who fall through the cracks is often the result of the homeless not focusing on a solution to their problem, because there really is no central "homeless education project." That is, it is not the day to day, hour by hour, focus of the homeless to get a home. Life on the street can become one big carnival or circus, and by the time it is 6 PM, while still enjoying the ride, one finds that one doesn't have a bed for the night.

I have studied this problem for over 20 years. I've talked to, at times befriended, many of the homeless. Here are tips that have been helpful for homeless people in getting their lives together.


1) Keeping an eye on the time. One of the best tips one can give the homeless is to learn to keep an eye on the time and know what day it is.

2) Try to have an orderly page or book for appointments. Keep them in front of oneself often, and keep reviewing appointments that are made. Steps one and two are important for such things as finding a bed for the night, making and keeping appointments with social services and charity groups.

3) Go to a support group: Go to an AA or Al Anon group even if you don't think you're an alcoholic. Al Anon is for people who have been affected by alcoholics in their life. In both groups, you can just sit quietly and aren't required to talk. These are groups of people that are focusing on making their lives better, so you will learn much from being there. There is also free coffee.

4) Make a study of what groups are offering what services. There are often services such as the YWCA, the Salvation Army, and other missions that offer programs. If you don't believe in the religions of such groups, do not tell them so. It is best to suspend disbelief or at least believe and be thankful for the beliefs of the people who give away such services. You can at least "believe" in a religion that way, that it inspires people to help the homeless. Overcoming your homelessness problem is more important than making known your opinion on religious matters. It is also said in such circles to "fake it till you make it." Maybe after some time of being helped, it will be easier to believe in a God. In your book of information or pages of information also keep a list of the free meal groups. There are sometimes trucks or groups that will feed the homeless on the street. See if you can get a phone number from them to find out where they will be next. Sometimes job banks have free telephones you can use and you may be able to call them there. You might even try sometime to drop in on a church and talk to the secretary to see if they have any services or funding.

5) Make sure to eat as nutritiously as possible (try to get vitamins or at least a multivitamin if possible). Drink plenty of water. Don't retain water or skip going to bathroom as this is unhealthy.

6) Once in a while you will meet a "good Samaritan" type of person. There are some people who will actually look for homeless people to buy them a meal and talk to them for a while. Such people are sometimes cautious about getting too close to the homeless. You have to remember that it is not always safe taking in a homeless person. Many people have been hurt doing so. It is not so much that the homeless are to blame, nor the "normal" people -- it is just the way it is. Having a friend is important, and such a person may give you their phone number. Be sure to respect such people and don't form a grudge against them. Everyone is fighting their own battles. Protect the phone number.

7) Prepare for accidents. Bad things can happen. What will happen if you lose all your information? Will you be able to duplicate it again?

Cool Put positive thoughts in the mind, and keep the mind going in a constructive direction. The thing that turns peoples lives around the most is having a constructive attitude. Affirmations are when you repeat something in your mind. They help you become what you focus on. "I am getting closer to getting a home by working on it daily" is one such affirmation you can use. "I am healthy, sane, and strong" is another one.

9) Be able to ask for help. Not to put a religious spin on this discussion, but often religious ideas are really just common sense ideas. "You have not because you ask not" is a religious slogan and if you look at it, you can see that the more you ask, the more chances are that you will get something. Getting off the street and even getting a job comes when one can focus on asking again and again and not giving up.

You can see, overcoming homelessness is about becoming the best you can be, even without a home. In a world where most people are fitting in one way or another, and less than one percent are homeless, there must be some type of way where people can fit in if they really try. There are options. For those who can not fit in with the religious charities who offer prolonged beds to those wishing to turn their lives around, there aren't as many options, but one fact must remain: that life is not always a party for anyone (nor a pity party if we are strong). Overcoming the homelessness problem takes some degree of self-discipline on the part of the homeless. Homeless advocacy groups who communicate with the homeless and don't drive this fact home are not a very large part of the solution.

First off, there are many homeless who — one can only say — have "attitude problems." These are the homeless that you see with signs such as "Please give me money for beer...hey, I'm honest." They are addicted, and proud of their addiction. They can't see the connection between alcohol and drug abuse and homelessness. Although I'm a politically moderate democrat, and not anti-moderate left and even sometimes anti-moderate right, the homeless advocacy groups which seem to promote a kind of do-anything spirit contribute to making homelessness an option for the alcoholic. Instead, they should promote the idea that alcoholism often leads to insanity and always leads to an early death. It doesn’t matter whether or not a real alcoholic has a home or not, they can still die from their disease. Alcoholism and drug abuse also often lead to crime. To say that homeless people do not often have a alcohol or drug problem is not responsible. The truth is, a lot of them do. Many do not, but if we are going to conserve resources that actually do end up going for homeless services, we have to focus on enlightened treatment for the homeless who are alcoholics and drug addicts. We have to confront alcoholics with the enlightened facts of the disease of addiction. It doesn't mean that they are bad people. It means that these are people who need to understand a disease that only they themselves can cure with long patient work.

The second large group of homeless are the mentally ill. Many of the mentally ill however are very anti-psychiatry and even against the ideas and definition of mental health. They may have their own ideas about why they act like they do. These can center around such things as religious beliefs, beliefs about their talents ("I'm really a great musician/writer/artist/etc. and can't be concerned about working"), and other beliefs that become life disabling. You can divide the mentally ill into two types: the kind that can admit they have mental illness and the kind that can't. Of the kind that can admit they have a problem, you can divide them further into the ones that will accept medication and the ones that will not. I'm not saying that a life of medication is the best option for those with mental illness, but many people find out that it was what they needed to get back to an optimal state in their lives. Several people are dual diagnoses also, a diagnoses that can be helpful so that those who have both mental illness and addiction problems can understand themselves better.

Some of the homeless never matured to the point of successfully earning a living because of an early onset of mental illness or addiction. Recovery becomes more about discovering something new than recovering something someone once had. There can be huge areas of shame in a homeless person's life. Often they came from competitive families in which there wasn't much love and wasn't much of a chance for them to shine in life. Recovery becomes a wonderful option for them. If the homeless can get a sound enough mind to just sit quietly in a few AA or Al-Anon meetings, they can begin to feel a part of the community again. Once there they will find out the true story of addiction, the family of alcoholics in recovery, and may gain the power to either recover or if they are not addicts, restore a belief in "normal" people again.

The problem many homeless people experience is not being eligible for services such as Social Security Disability or SSI. But do many of the homeless who have been turned down have the focus or knowledge to keep on knocking on those doors, and keep on submitting applications. Even if you lost your ID or birth certificate: you are an American citizen and it is your right to have a valid ID card. Many homeless believe that if you are turned down once, you are not allowed to re-submit your application. Also, a homeless person who does not admit they are addicted or have a mental illness is at a great disadvantage in the process of getting government benefits. (Anyone who drinks alcohol in the daytime can often call themselves an alcoholic in our country: most alcoholics have a denial that their drinking is normal). Likewise, a homeless person who will not admit mental illness is at a disadvantage in the process. The state likes to give help to those who admit defeat, but isn't as helpful to those who want to treat the homeless experience like a game.

There needs to be a study of self-discipline techniques for many of the homeless to start on this path of getting a home.

It is a wonderful thing when a person can have a second start on life. But this can only come when that person becomes totally honest with themselves about possible faults in their life. This is why true religious conversion or rededication is the thing that works so well for overcoming homelessness. This kind of person becomes someone people can trust. Everyone is basically transparent. When a homeless person is still in addiction, or is capable of stealing, or even of bringing into your house another person who is capable of stealing, such character traits are easily seen by just about anyone. It is not easy to trust a homeless person in your own house, because people have been hurt or things have been stolen. There is nothing hard about being good. There is nothing hard about having faith in God. Objections to living a religious and good life are empty. The bible nor any other culture's religious book says that life is easy or that the rich are always the good people. But it does give promises for those who have deep faith and try their hardest to live good moral and hard working lives. If you're so down that you can't put many of these ideas into practice, at least start with a continuous prayer that somehow life will help you start to be able to put them into practice.

Contact information for those serious about finding housing in the Seattle Area.

Men’s Programs Salvation Army — Must pass a urinalysis and breathlyzer. 1000 4th Ave.
9 Month program.
Union Gospel Mission 9 Month program. 318 2nd Ave Ext. S.
Bread of Life Mission 9 Month program. 975 S Main St.

Women’s Programs
Angelines is a good source of information. Talk to the program director at
206-441-3300. The YWCA Emergency Housing number is 206-461-4882.

Always remember: if you don’t like the response you get from one person working at a service, chances are the next day you can talk to someone totally different. Good things come to those who are persistent.

This sheet can be copied and circulated with information pertaining to homeless shelters in your area.

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December 19, 2016, 08:07:20 AM
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Outstanding thing you are doing here but I would like to read more about the actual project. This seemed like it was more of a background on homeless people in general.

I am digging the general idea though. Teach a man to fish vs. giving him some fish. Definitely the right way to go.
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December 19, 2016, 08:39:28 AM
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i think homeless people is a problem by the government itself, besides it is very hard to teach them because they are lazy and don't want to work that's why they stay what they are now and never get a job for their necessity. I always pity on them but sometimes when i saw homeless men that have a great body on me  and just sleeping on the street, it always feels me angry, But for those homeless that victim of tragedy, They deserve a help.. The aim of your project is good but i think this will not gonna work for lazy people. Just saying.  Wink
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December 19, 2016, 12:55:57 PM
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i think homeless people is a problem by the government itself, besides it is very hard to teach them because they are lazy and don't want to work that's why they stay what they are now and never get a job for their necessity. I always pity on them but sometimes when i saw homeless men that have a great body on me  and just sleeping on the street, it always feels me angry, But for those homeless that victim of tragedy, They deserve a help.. The aim of your project is good but i think this will not gonna work for lazy people. Just saying.  Wink
This would really be hard project by the government and they would surely waste off money and time on this.You said was right some people are lazy enough and dont have interest on making or searching money even if they have a good body.Same as yours it feels me angry when i saw a poor people just choose to beg and sleep rather than finding ways to make money.

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December 20, 2016, 05:47:02 PM
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The problem is the separation of the haves and the have-nots is huge today and people
who consider themselves great loving people regularly blow $3000 to $5000 on a vacation
every year, all the time hard working people are unable to make their bills.  I think the disconnect
is in communication, caring enough to communicate with each other, and also a huge level of
intolerance that we are blind to.  We don't see how intolerant we are to each other today, I think
the media has caused this, probably to condition us to need to buy certain products in the highest
most expensive version possible.

I am very enthusiastic about the regular car to electric car conversion idea for a business and
not everything is an equal exchange with money.  Value created sometimes is not the same
monetarily with big corporate "value exchange" in money.  People can use various forms of
accounting/tax laws/internship training and so on. The value you would get to do something
rewarding for yourself and others also "costs" sometime. 

Here is a page that lists hundreds of gas vehicles that have been converted to electric:
http://www.evalbum.com/

So, basically, not having to pay a homeless person minimum wage but perhaps have other
benefits along with a stipend may be legal.  This would fund and maintain a good small business.

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