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Hey guys this is my first time posting on here Ive never create posts but my recent experience with sportsbet.io changed that. Appologize if this ends up being long I just want to be as detailed as possible to try n present everything in its entirety.. It stated with their other site vegascasino.io which is pratically the same site minus the sports they share all the same live chat people and basically everything. What happened with them was I was credited 80 Mbtc less than I should've a few weeks ago from my affiliates. What happened was they deactivated one of my affiliates accounts with a balance of around .7 off a tiny deposit which landed me -80 Mbtc in profits. I knew the system they used was automated and figured it was an honest mistake and went to live chat thinking they'd take care of it and they even told me that they understood and would fix it. But that was a lie they either didn't understand or just played dumb because their resolution was that it had been taken care of when the system rolled over after the payout. But that does nothing for me since my affiliates will never have the chance to lose what's in his account and I've already had to pay the 80 Mbtc for his winnings which vegascasino.io also has. In a normal situation if someone won big one month over time it'll average out and then the next month they'll have all that money to lose so it be the same as someone making a .7 deposit and losing it all. So vegascasino acknowledged there was a mistake but then didn't do anything about it. And I let them know my frustration. Back to sportsbet.io and how that ties in. That same day I decided to depsit and play there i had been for months already and didn't have an issue with it forgetting the affiliation with vegascasino.io.. Also I should add that both sites tried to deactivate my account which only lasted a couple minutes but I got the impression the live chat people or someone didn't want me playing there. From my first deposit that day dec 13th to now I made 35 deposits averaging 20 Mbtc each for .7 total.. Not one of those deposits did I ever reach a balance that was 5 Mbtc over what I deposited. After my 3rd deposit and noticing how ridiculously crazy the cards were being delt I decided to record the statistics just off of curiosity.. I lost 87% of my hands with a play volume in the high hundreds. I was out Blackjacked 12:1. On hands I had 12-16 I drew a bust card 70% of the time. On double downs (having 10 or 11 vs anything but 10 and with 9 against 4,5,6) I won 18% of the time. It was insane after the first few deposits I was basically paying to collect the stats I knew I would never see that money again and that's not my issue. My issue is afterwards when decided to call it quits to put in my sports bet going off soon I went to the live chat and explained this and asked offered to send my data and asked why they advertise provably fair games when 0 of their games are provably fair and if their were any promotions I had been earning points for with all my game play and loses. And the chat agent Adam his response was to close out the chat. I reopened he'd close repeat that a bunch of times. Couldn't believe the disrespect from them I asked a legit question and they can't give me a word even after they just flat out rob me like that. And I've been gambling over a decade mostly in person but I've been online for a few years definitely have a lot of experience with fishy sites and all that and never in my life have I ever even considered accusing or complaining about gambling or the way the cards fell but this wasn't gambling and the cards weren't talking they were pre meditatively stacked against me almost 9:1 over hundreds and hundreds of hands they didn't even attempt to cover it up, 35 deposits and none of them reach +5 Mbtc? I can post the full history if anyone's interested let me know and I crunched the numbers a bit also if anyone wants to see just let me know.. Just had to vent about it definitly got a lot more heated from the chat experience than anything else and just everything about sportsbet and vegascasino from closing my affiliates account to not honoring their word when they told me they'd correct their mistake, for having a support staff who runs away at a simple question. But anyone have any advice? A site that actually honest and fair would be greatly appreciated im definitly going to be more careful in selecting where i play from now on so lesson learned there but I'd like to hear which sites you've found a comfort level you'll be treated fairly at thank u guys
Tl:dr: F sportsbet.io and vegascasino.io and probably bitcasino.io
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December 17, 2016, 05:57:50 AM |
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It's good that you have a lot of details, however you might want to play with the formatting. The paragraphs were hard to read, so you might want to make some edits for clarity.
It would be great if you could post any proof and history you have, to show that your story is legitimate.
As for alternatives, try nitrogensports.eu or directbet.com. They are both sports betting sites that have been around for a long time.
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December 17, 2016, 06:18:50 AM |
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Hey guys, this is my first time posting here. I've never created posts but my recent experience with sportsbet.io changed that.
Apologies if this ends up being long. I just want to be as detailed as possible to try and present everything in its entirety. It started with their other site vegascasino.io which is practically the same site minus the sports. They share all the same live chat people and basically everything.
What happened with them was I was credited 80 mBTC less than I should've had, a few weeks ago from my affiliates. What happened was they deactivated one of my affiliates accounts with a balance of around .7 off a tiny deposit which landed me -80 mBTC in profits. I knew the system they used was automated and figured it was an honest mistake and went to live chat thinking they'd take care of it and they even told me that they understood and would fix it. But that was a lie, they either didn't understand or just played dumb because their resolution was that it had been taken care of when the system rolled over after the payout. But that does nothing for me since my affiliates will never have the chance to lose what's in his account and I've already had to pay the 80 mBTC for his winnings which vegascasino.io also has.
In a normal situation if someone won big one month over time it'll average out and then the next month they'll have all that money to lose so it be the same as someone making a .7 deposit and losing it all. So vegascasino acknowledged there was a mistake but then didn't do anything about it. And I let them know my frustration.
Back to sportsbet.io and how that ties in. That same day I decided to depsit and play there i had been for months already and didn't have an issue with it, forgetting the affiliation with vegascasino.io. Also I should add that both sites tried to deactivate my account which only lasted a couple minutes but I got the impression the live chat people or someone didn't want me playing there.
From my first deposit that day Dec 13th to now I made 35 deposits averaging 20 mBTC each for .7 total. Not one of those deposits did I ever reach a balance that was 5 mBTC over what I deposited. After my 3rd deposit and noticing how ridiculously crazy the cards were being dealt. I decided to record the statistics just off of curiosity.
I lost 87% of my hands with a play volume in the high hundreds. I was out-blackjacked 12:1. On hands I had 12-16 I drew a bust card 70% of the time. On double downs (having 10 or 11 vs anything but 10 and with 9 against 4,5,6) I won 18% of the time. It was insane after the first few deposits I was basically paying to collect the stats I knew I would never see that money again and that's not my issue. My issue is afterwards, when I decided to call it quits to put in my sports bet going off soon I went to the live chat and explained this and asked offered to send my data and asked why they advertise provably fair games when 0 of their games are provably fair and if their were any promotions I had been earning points for with all my game play and loses. And the chat agent , Adam , his response was to close out the chat. I reopened he'd close repeat that a bunch of times. Couldn't believe the disrespect from them I asked a legit question and they can't give me a word even after they just flat out rob me like that. And I've been gambling over a decade mostly in person but I've been online for a few years definitely have a lot of experience with fishy sites and all that and never in my life have I ever even considered accusing or complaining about gambling or the way the cards fell but this wasn't gambling and the cards weren't talking they were pre-meditatively stacked against me almost 9:1 over hundreds and hundreds of hands they didn't even attempt to cover it up, 35 deposits and none of them reach +5 mBTC? I can post the full history if anyone's interested let me know and I crunched the numbers a bit also if anyone wants to see just let me know.
Just had to vent about it. Definitely got a lot more heated from the chat experience than anything else and just everything about sportsbet and vegascasino, from closing my affiliates account to not honoring their word when they told me they'd correct their mistake, for having a support staff who runs away at a simple question.
But anyone have any advice? A site that actually honest and fair would be greatly appreciated I'm definitely going to be more careful in selecting where i play from now on so lesson learned there but I'd like to hear which sites you've found a comfort level you'll be treated fairly at thank u guys
tl;dr F*** sportsbet.io and vegascasino.io and probably bitcasino.io
FTFY(a bit) As for the recommendations for a casino, if you're looking for a site where you can gamble on something other than dice, I'd recommend crypto-games.net . As for the comments regarding sportsbet and vegascasino, I can't say I fully understand the circumstances. They don't have neither a good nor a bad rep here in Bitcointalk and if you'd like someone to place a negative feedback on them, I'd suggest opening a scam accusation thread and posting the proofs accordingly.
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December 17, 2016, 11:50:04 AM |
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ways of writing you do not use the correct paragraph, but I catch what you write here, I thought why not use gambling sites are really good if you feel aggrieved at the site that you write on the post here
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December 18, 2016, 12:55:56 AM Last edit: April 08, 2018, 04:24:13 PM by game-protect |
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December 18, 2016, 01:28:57 AM |
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It is not secret, sportbet and bitcasino are owned by the same owner, under same gambling license, you can check the license in the bottom of the site, verify by yourself, but sportsbet looks very legit
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December 18, 2016, 04:21:14 AM |
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Sportbet is owned by that same owner? This I did not realize until you mentioned it. ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) They have too many operations under different names it makes them seem like they have something to hide. Which I don't like in the least. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif)
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December 18, 2016, 04:26:52 AM |
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December 19, 2016, 05:48:55 AM |
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It is not secret, sportbet and bitcasino are owned by the same owner, under same gambling license, you can check the license in the bottom of the site, verify by yourself, but sportsbet looks very legit
Although both are under the same license is not necessarily the owner of the site is same person if i'm not wrong bitcoin casino have their sports gambling sites that are in the same site with their casino.
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December 19, 2016, 06:18:35 AM |
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FTFY(a bit) As for the recommendations for a casino, if you're looking for a site where you can gamble on something other than dice, I'd recommend crypto-games.net . As for the comments regarding sportsbet and vegascasino, I can't say I fully understand the circumstances. They don't have neither a good nor a bad rep here in Bitcointalk and if you'd like someone to place a negative feedback on them, I'd suggest opening a scam accusation thread and posting the proofs accordingly. thanks for quoting the whole OP. You did great job on messing up here. ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) learn next time edit what you quote or else you will end up on spamming because you quote whole OP and his paragraph is very hard to read. You have credits if you already edited the spacing of the paragraph before you quote. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- i didn't trust vegascasino because they are always send spam email on mine, but i'm not sure about sportsbet because it seem ok when i try their site last month and they are running signature campaign here for promotions
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December 19, 2016, 07:45:55 AM |
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I believe it is been known they both have the same owners. I haven't read your post, but seems that what you are implying. If however you have a problem with the sites you should either post it on their thread or a scam accusation.
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December 19, 2016, 08:49:22 AM |
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thanks for quoting the whole OP. You did great job on messing up here. ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) learn next time edit what you quote or else you will end up on spamming because you quote whole OP and his paragraph is very hard to read. You have credits if you already edited the spacing of the paragraph before you quote. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Please do not start babbling if you do not know the meaning of "FTFY" , I quoted the OP and tried to make it more readable in the quote.
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December 19, 2016, 01:35:26 PM |
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thanks for quoting the whole OP. You did great job on messing up here. ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) learn next time edit what you quote or else you will end up on spamming because you quote whole OP and his paragraph is very hard to read. You have credits if you already edited the spacing of the paragraph before you quote. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Please do not start babbling if you do not know the meaning of "FTFY" , I quoted the OP and tried to make it more readable in the quote. oh so sorry. i just realize now that you made it properly, i'm only using mobile with small screen that's why i didn't notice. or else you just recently edited it right after you read my comment. Just kidding. But you can just suggest it to OP rather than do it for him because it's looks like redundant. But this is a good job. Thumbs up. Sorry again mate for my mess
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December 19, 2016, 03:04:50 PM |
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But you can just suggest it to OP rather than do it for him because it's looks like redundant.
Which is/was my intention by making the post I'll try not to veer off into any OT conversations. Though it doesn't seem OP is serious about his accusation or thinks that it will not accomplish anything, as there has not been any replies or threads with actual proofs. To anyone thinking of replying here, don't , its a waste of time
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December 19, 2016, 03:46:11 PM |
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You're correct,they're indeed run by the same agency and operated in the same way.I wouldn't be surprised to see them ran by the same owner.Open a scam accusation against them.Post your queries in thier official thread here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1458034 As a community we would pressure them for giving you proper resolution.
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April 29, 2017, 04:11:14 PM |
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Hello buddy. Your writing is too vast to read, it would be great if you explain in a brief note. In the busy world nobody has too time to read with carefully so please did it in a more conveniently. Hopefully it will be a good platform for playing and earning. Cheers.
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April 29, 2017, 04:30:25 PM |
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Hello buddy. Your writing is too vast to read, it would be great if you explain in a brief note. In the busy world nobody has too time to read with carefully so please did it in a more conveniently. Hopefully it will be a good platform for playing and earning. Cheers.
Just because you are too lazy to read through the whole post doesn't mean it is not worth reading to others. Come on. This is a forum where you need to read. If you can not do that for lengthy posts then I would suggest you just give up now on here. lol!
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