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December 18, 2016, 12:42:33 PM
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Accounts using signatures, which are promoting obvious scams such as OneCoin, LEOcoin, Swiscoin & other bs digital currencies of the kind should be immediately banned. Same goes to newbie accounts, which act like their shills. Example:



I strongly believe that this forum should not act like a censor in any way, but this is getting ridiculous. Not to mention that a lot of people are dragged into these schemes and are losing money. People here should help each other in order to create a better ecosystem in digital currencies. Such MLM (or whatever) scams are not helping!

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December 18, 2016, 02:59:35 PM
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I understand your point, but I don't agree, they should not get banned unless they do something that it is against the forum rules.A negative feedback left from a DT member with an explanation that these users are promoting scams through their signature is enough to warn others.
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December 18, 2016, 03:04:08 PM
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I understand your point, but I don't agree, they should not get banned unless they do something that it is against the forum rules.A negative feedback left from a DT member with an explanation that these users are promoting scams through their signature is enough to warn others.

I already painted in red one of the LEOcoin shills, but that doesn't stop him to spam other's people threads with 105 newbie accounts. Check this one for example (my screenshot is from there): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1718048.0.

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December 18, 2016, 03:05:55 PM
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I understand your point, but I don't agree, they should not get banned unless they do something that it is against the forum rules.A negative feedback left from a DT member with an explanation that these users are promoting scams through their signature is enough to warn others.

cryptotraider16 is a Leocoin shill.

He has like a million newbie accounts that are constantly shilling for that MLM scam.

You know that it's him because of his style of writing and the same mistakes he keeps making.

He even claimed that it is supported by the UK government.

Cryptotraider16 also claims to be a multi millionaire......

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December 18, 2016, 03:08:48 PM
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You guys are so funny that i am real happy to see your posts! Keep post!
One day all will see how stupid you was! Love your posts! Really! 👍🏼

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December 18, 2016, 03:13:18 PM
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You guys are so funny that i am real happy to see your posts! Keep post!
One day all will see how stupid you was! Love your posts! Really! 👍🏼

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December 19, 2016, 08:46:25 AM
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I did have a look at that leocoin site, and I wouldn't trust it for the following reason.

You can't find out about it without downloading an app. I need to know about a product before I install anything. If it is a genuine service, then they need to provide more information without requiring potential customers to install possible trojans.

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December 19, 2016, 09:04:59 AM
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I have always thought that the current policy of the forum is flawed. Even though it's impossible to properly fend of all scams, it is possible to prevent the obvious ones (or at least prevent any further damage as soon as someone gets scammed). Not everyone is smart enough (in this regard) to not get scammed here. Joining and getting scammed early on does not bode well for the early user experience.

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December 19, 2016, 10:21:38 AM
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All peopole who are saying leocoin is scam please give us some proofs!You can not mix leocoin and onecoin, 2 completely different things. Leocoiin is legit and there are many exchanges where you can buy them easy, also volume is great, price is stable, big community supporting leocoin. IN few months debitcards are coming. Guys where is the problem?I own some leocoins and for now im happy with it, i have thier pos wallet and it works great. I also own some bitcoins as well.
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December 19, 2016, 01:22:56 PM
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Banning accounts isn't a solution since the spammers will create other one...
Banning the whole topic of a shitcoin/scam could help a little bit but another scam will pop and so on...
The only solution is to educate users about the risks and the first thing to learn is to not trust blindly a stranger in the web, a Nigerian prince or a newbie in a forums... This is the ABC of the net, someone ignoring theses rules should assume what he will lose  Undecided

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Banning accounts isn't a solution since the spammers will create other one...
It is a solution in some way, because they'll get tired registering new e-mails and accounts. Question here is if it would require a lot more time for the MODs (or more MODs).
Handling newbie accounts shouldn't be a problem considering the amount of patrollers on the forum.
Hope that the community will find a permanent solution...

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The only solution is to educate users..
I'm pretty sure this is not a solution nor is it a feasible one. Given a smaller and finite number of users, it probably would be. However, given a unknown amount of random newcomers I would say that it is not.

Could i suggest a way to trust a whole topic by users preferably by full member +
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Topic name : MMM...  Trust : (-) or 1/10 with x votes then a message will appear indicating that it is a high risk investment...
Maybe this will not be possible in this forums but in the new one it could be  

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December 19, 2016, 01:27:05 PM
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Banning accounts isn't a solution since the spammers will create other one...

It is a solution in some way, because they'll get tired registering new e-mails and accounts. Question here is if it would require a lot more time for the MODs (or more MODs).

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December 19, 2016, 01:34:02 PM
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Banning accounts isn't a solution since the spammers will create other one...
It is a solution in some way, because they'll get tired registering new e-mails and accounts. Question here is if it would require a lot more time for the MODs (or more MODs).
Handling newbie accounts shouldn't be a problem considering the amount of patrollers on the forum.

The only solution is to educate users..
I'm pretty sure this is not a solution nor is it a feasible one. Given a smaller and finite number of users, it probably would be. However, given a unknown amount of random newcomers I would say that it is not.

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December 19, 2016, 01:44:23 PM
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Some poepla are really annoying with their comments. Cryptotrader16 is a perosn like that, annoying always the same comments, imagine he is even a friend of Cristiano Ronaldo phahahah Smiley
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December 19, 2016, 10:43:49 PM
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i wish rating was tied to what forums you can post in. read all but not reply. would be good if like trust you could mark useless posts for moderator review or something to stop them progressing with useless posts.

or better yet what about an option for topic starter that is
- minimum rating to reply
- accept replies from negative rating profiles

this way you can filter all the leocoin wankers and one liner jr member signature spam?
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December 20, 2016, 12:23:16 AM
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i wish rating was tied to what forums you can post in. read all but not reply. would be good if like trust you could mark useless posts for moderator review or something to stop them progressing with useless posts.

or better yet what about an option for topic starter that is
- minimum rating to reply
- accept replies from negative rating profiles

this way you can filter all the leocoin wankers and one liner jr member signature spam?

It would be then hard for the newbies to post. Not all of them are shill accounts. And the trust system could be abused, but probably if they are painted in red by DT forum members (I'm not sure, but I believe I am one)? 

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December 20, 2016, 12:55:54 AM
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i wish rating was tied to what forums you can post in. read all but not reply. would be good if like trust you could mark useless posts for moderator review or something to stop them progressing with useless posts.

or better yet what about an option for topic starter that is
- minimum rating to reply
- accept replies from negative rating profiles

this way you can filter all the leocoin wankers and one liner jr member signature spam?

It would be then hard for the newbies to post. Not all of them are shill accounts. And the trust system could be abused, but probably if they are painted in red by DT forum members (I'm not sure, but I believe I am one)? 

i mean a topic starter is given the option for their topic to function that way. its no different to self moderated topic starters deleting what they want.

damned if you do damned if you dont. the current method gives all power to account farming owners. there is no looming negative to them spamming other than losing 2 mins of their life to make a new alt account. basically the honest have to keep them honest theough more work and the never ending tedious battle of flagging which just doesnt solve the problem. need to work smarter with safeguards or options rather than put more work on moderators.
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December 20, 2016, 05:00:33 PM
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need to work smarter with safeguards or options rather than put more work on moderators.

I think people should have to pass a basic "financial IQ" test before being allowed on this forum.  Make sure people understand how money works, so they can identify a ponzi and other financial schemes.

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December 20, 2016, 05:08:10 PM
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need to work smarter with safeguards or options rather than put more work on moderators.

I think people should have to pass a basic "financial IQ" test before being allowed on this forum.  Make sure people understand how money works, so they can identify a ponzi and other financial schemes.

That's not the main point here. People running these schemes often have great 'financial IQ', yet they're annoying and kinda deserve... well... I'll keep this to myself.. Smiley

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December 20, 2016, 05:10:44 PM
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need to work smarter with safeguards or options rather than put more work on moderators.

I think people should have to pass a basic "financial IQ" test before being allowed on this forum.  Make sure people understand how money works, so they can identify a ponzi and other financial schemes.

That's not the main point here. People running these schemes often have great 'financial IQ', yet they're annoying and kinda deserve... well... I'll keep this to myself.. Smiley

Well, I wasn't referring to the people who run the schemes.  They know they are stealing - they have no empathy and are usually sociapaths.  I was referring to the people who fall for the schemes.  Educating people after the fact doesn't work.

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December 20, 2016, 05:16:50 PM
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need to work smarter with safeguards or options rather than put more work on moderators.

I think people should have to pass a basic "financial IQ" test before being allowed on this forum.  Make sure people understand how money works, so they can identify a ponzi and other financial schemes.

That's not the main point here. People running these schemes often have great 'financial IQ', yet they're annoying and kinda deserve... well... I'll keep this to myself.. Smiley

Well, I wasn't referring to the people who run the schemes.  They know they are stealing - they are no empathy and are usually sociapaths.  I was referring to the people who fall for the schemes.  Educating people after the fact doesn't work.

Even people who run such schemes can drop this low to register a newbie account and spread bs. Anyway... soon they'll feel some heat under their asses. Wink

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