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December 19, 2016, 06:48:06 AM
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hi, is this weird? 

this user https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=72227   leaves feedback for user https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=451063

"sent BTC first, no problems"   WHO would send BTC first to a new user when they are on DT?!?

i look at the profile  "email changed recently"

can someone experienced enough please make sure "johhniewalker" has not changed hands and is spreading his trust to new accounts (his own?) there is no reference to the deal with "user211" either :/ AND they never RETURNED the feedback?  WHO would NOT return feedback to a DT?!? so sketchy



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December 19, 2016, 06:55:49 AM
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I have seen newbies and Jr.members with Green trust before and I don't really see an issue , If he actually traded with him (whether It's using the P.M system or from a thread) I don't see why he wouldn't leave a positive trust.
USER211 is very active at the altcoin section and johnniewalker left him positive trust for buying alts so It pretty much make sense to me and I don't see why we would accuse him of anything .

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December 19, 2016, 06:58:55 AM
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I don't see anything suspicious in the seclog (https://bitcointalk.org/seclog.php), so eventough his email changed, his password must have stayed the same.
If you're really suspicious, PM johhniewalker a link to this thread, and ask him if he could please sign a message with an old staked address, for your piece of mind Smiley

But like OmegaStarScream already said: there are tons of reasons to leave +ve, even to new members, so i personally wouldn't find this suspicious.

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December 19, 2016, 07:21:14 AM
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I have seen newbies and Jr.members with Green trust before and I don't really see an issue , If he actually traded with him (whether It's using the P.M system or from a thread) I don't see why he wouldn't leave a positive trust.
USER211 is very active at the altcoin section and johnniewalker left him positive trust for buying alts so It pretty much make sense to me and I don't see why we would accuse him of anything .

so maybe just no reference to the trade why?  privacy? i always thought references in feedback prevented these things?

I don't see anything suspicious in the seclog (https://bitcointalk.org/seclog.php), so eventough his email changed, his password must have stayed the same.
If you're really suspicious, PM johhniewalker a link to this thread, and ask him if he could please sign a message with an old staked address, for your piece of mind Smiley

But like OmegaStarScream already said: there are tons of reasons to leave +ve, even to new members, so i personally wouldn't find this suspicious.

ok, thank you for looking, its hard for users like me to not fear being scammed Sad
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December 19, 2016, 08:32:26 AM
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so maybe just no reference to the trade why?  privacy? i always thought references in feedback prevented these things?

I don't think It has anything to do with privacy otherwise he wouldn't leave a positive so everyone knows he actually traded .If the transaction was made through a third party service or communicated using P.Ms , It won't be possible to post references .

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December 19, 2016, 04:41:58 PM
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They didn't leave trust for almost two years then start trading in Alt accounts?

Check their Trust wall...

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takagari 10: -0 / +1   2015-01-18   1.00000000      My PayPal for his 1 BTC...he sent first, I sent immediately after. Absolutely flawless. Thanks!
Jaxkr 11: -0 / +2   2016-11-25   0.14000000      My PP for his BTC I sent first. Smooth transaction.
USER211 0: -0 / +1   2016-12-06   0.20000000      I sent the BTC first, sell me some alts
crunck -15: -4 / +1   2016-12-09   0.00000000   Reference   Scammer!

Now who do we know that uses the Scammer! Tag indiscriminately?

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December 20, 2016, 10:04:21 PM
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Betting my 0.003Btc that this is not him.

Sentence construction, grammar, email, all changed?

Notice sell / sold
Previous feedbacks never failed on that word.

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December 21, 2016, 02:20:58 AM
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A good way to check for indications of a sold account is to check the archives of the security log for (multiple) password changes (I am not in a position to do this now) going back several months.

It looks like this guy has been inactive for over a year so it is possible that his account is sold.

I do find it very strange that he would send first for such a new user, although it is possible that he knows the guy he traded with IRL
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December 21, 2016, 06:41:42 AM
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I'm not sure the "Email changed recently" message shows for how long after changing the email but the password has been changed on the 6th December

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December 06, 2016, 06:00:46 PM - johnniewalker - password changed

and on 6th December exactly , he gave a positive trust to that account so after thinking about it , there must be something suspicious here.

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December 21, 2016, 05:59:56 PM
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They didn't leave trust for almost two years then start trading in Alt accounts?

Check their Trust wall...

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takagari 10: -0 / +1   2015-01-18   1.00000000      My PayPal for his 1 BTC...he sent first, I sent immediately after. Absolutely flawless. Thanks!
Jaxkr 11: -0 / +2   2016-11-25   0.14000000      My PP for his BTC I sent first. Smooth transaction.
USER211 0: -0 / +1   2016-12-06   0.20000000      I sent the BTC first, sell me some alts
crunck -15: -4 / +1   2016-12-09   0.00000000   Reference   Scammer!

Now who do we know that uses the Scammer! Tag indiscriminately?


You are indeed a timelord Shocked, That is really something strange tho another sign of any suspicious act here is that as Op said that certian account recently just have changed it's email although it is just an opinion
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December 23, 2016, 05:04:32 PM
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Maybe this Account also got hacked like Powell,, and now he's giving false trust same as Powell..

I don't have any Public Evidence and Proof But I am 100% confirmed The Account "Powell" (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=202934) hacked by "Phosphorous" (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=324831)..
I found Powell was giving and removing many false positive trusts to hacked account to increase their value while selling. (after selling account he removes the positive trusts)

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Maybe this Account also got hacked like Powell,, and now he's giving false trust same as Powell..

I don't have any Public Evidence and Proof But I am 100% confirmed The Account "Powell" (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=202934) hacked by "Phosphorous" (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=324831)..
I found Powell was giving and removing many false positive trusts to hacked account to increase their value while selling. (after selling account he removes the positive trusts)

While I don't doubt there's been a hack I also can't help but wonder why doesn't the original account owner come along and say "Hey, look at me, my UID was hacked." ?

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December 23, 2016, 11:05:41 PM
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Maybe this Account also got hacked like Powell,, and now he's giving false trust same as Powell..

I don't have any Public Evidence and Proof But I am 100% confirmed The Account "Powell" (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=202934) hacked by "Phosphorous" (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=324831)..
I found Powell was giving and removing many false positive trusts to hacked account to increase their value while selling. (after selling account he removes the positive trusts)

While I don't doubt there's been a hack I also can't help but wonder why doesn't the original account owner come along and say "Hey, look at me, my UID was hacked." ?
If his account was in fact hacked, one likely reason why his account was targeted is that he has been inactive for a long time and is unlikely to notice that his account was hacked.
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Maybe this Account also got hacked like Powell,, and now he's giving false trust same as Powell..

I don't have any Public Evidence and Proof But I am 100% confirmed The Account "Powell" (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=202934) hacked by "Phosphorous" (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=324831)..
I found Powell was giving and removing many false positive trusts to hacked account to increase their value while selling. (after selling account he removes the positive trusts)

While I don't doubt there's been a hack I also can't help but wonder why doesn't the original account owner come along and say "Hey, look at me, my UID was hacked." ?
If his account was in fact hacked, one likely reason why his account was targeted is that he has been inactive for a long time and is unlikely to notice that his account was hacked.
It just might have been by another user.
Here is my input into this DT member.
If you don't send me back my btc of 0.097btc that I sent btc_shell for this account, I will expose this account as scamming, bought and sold account and post all the pm's that was sent to me about selling this johnniewalker account.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1720714.0

hi, is this weird?  

this user https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=72227   leaves feedback for user https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=451063

"sent BTC first, no problems"   WHO would send BTC first to a new user when they are on DT?!?

i look at the profile  "email changed recently"

can someone experienced enough please make sure "johhniewalker" has not changed hands and is spreading his trust to new accounts (his own?) there is no reference to the deal with "user211" either :/ AND they never RETURNED the feedback?  WHO would NOT return feedback to a DT?!? so sketchy






DT members including Timelord are looking at this account carefully now and they would very interested in this information that I have on you btc_shell/Johnniewalker

Send my bitcoin back that I sent since the Dec 16th for it:
https://blockchain.info/address/1FueLtmb85SSYhuxQat4AFZRUU7hYGnhrh

Send it too: **--

If you don't send it the next time you log in I will take that as you will not and just scammed me. Then it will ruin this account, btc_shell account and USER211 which I believe is you account as well.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
And I know it is you or if it wasn't then this account would have said something about my last pm questioning why I asked "Have you scammed me?".
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I did infact try and buy it as you can plainly see. But that is what i do from my last feedback received this is not a surprise. Roll Eyes

This is a Christmas present to Timelord and the OP that was questioning if this account did in fact change hands and I think it did or it is btc_shell's account.
Make your own conclusions now that I have out this information to everyone because btc_shell logged in twice since I told him to send me back the btc that I paid for this purchase (which I am an avid dealer in accounts, there is no surprise there just by looking at my last post.  Wink ).
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December 29, 2016, 03:59:33 PM
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Is this true that this dt account has changed hands??
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December 30, 2016, 01:53:30 AM
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Given that I've traded with them in the past, and there is a reasonable amount of evidence, I've excluded them from DT. Of course that is without prejudice, and I'll promptly remove that exclusion if JW has any proof that their account hasn't been hacked/sold. I've also PMed them to direct them to this thread.
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December 30, 2016, 01:58:19 AM
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If this account was hacked (looks like it...) then the email would only be changed and not the password to prevent the original owner from receiving notifications regarding messages and replies, etc so the person can use the account to scam as much as possible.

Here are some notable things as mentioned before:

- Leaving trust randomly when he hasn't in a few years
- English has changed from before

People don't often need to put "I sent first" consistently but with this guy...

Oh well, let's wait it out and see what's happens

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December 30, 2016, 02:03:15 AM
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If this account was hacked (looks like it...) then the email would only be changed and not the password to prevent the original owner from receiving notifications regarding messages and replies, etc so the person can use the account to scam as much as possible.

Here are some notable things as mentioned before:

- Leaving trust randomly when he hasn't in a few years
- English has changed from before

People don't often need to put "I sent first" consistently but with this guy...

Oh well, let's wait it out and see what's happens

The speaking patterns are what I noticed change. The feedback left says "I sent the BTC first, sell me some alts" I went back through JW's post history and there are no other instances of incorrect verb tenses. This leads me to believe whoever left the feedback, english is not their first language, and I'm quite sure that is not the case for JW.
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Given that I've traded with them in the past, and there is a reasonable amount of evidence, I've excluded them from DT. Of course that is without prejudice, and I'll promptly remove that exclusion if JW has any proof that their account hasn't been hacked/sold. I've also PMed them to direct them to this thread.

and this?

Maybe this Account also got hacked like Powell,, and now he's giving false trust same as Powell..

I don't have any Public Evidence and Proof But I am 100% confirmed The Account "Powell" (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=202934) hacked by "Phosphorous" (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=324831)..
I found Powell was giving and removing many false positive trusts to hacked account to increase their value while selling. (after selling account he removes the positive trusts)

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I've notified theymos regarding this user, and he has removed them from DT. The user that received the rating should also be looked into.

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