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December 20, 2016, 10:24:12 PM
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I'm not sure if this has ever been implemented yet, but can you imagine a way of paying with Bitcoin by just using your own body?

It would be more of like a microchip implanted into your left or right hand that would contain both your public and private keys to send and receive Bitcoins.

So in case you want to send or receive some BTC, you would just pass your hand over at a scanner and it would perform the desired operation. This is would make it a very convenient and easy way to transact, and carry your Bitcoins with you anytime, anywhere. However, the only thing to be considered would be the security of your private key from within your implant, to protect your funds from theft.

Nevertheless, I want to know your opinion about this, since it would be pretty cool to have such a system to help spread mass adoption of the cryptocurrency.  Smiley
Thats good idea but too hard to implement and there's so many risks with that, first your health if this chip can be good to person's body, and to become safe, once bad people knows that you handle/own lots bitcoin in your body/hand well you're in danger and be chased with this bad guys.
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December 20, 2016, 10:39:03 PM
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I can imagine payment for staff and other things by using only our bodies. The topic of such kind of chips showed in fantastic movies from several years ago. And I think this fantastic will come true one day. I don't even wish to think what danger it may follow, bit it's humans nature to afraid of something new.
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December 20, 2016, 10:55:43 PM
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I would never want something like that... Somebody would have control over everything about you. Microchips are usually able to take a lot of information, like the food intake or so. Implanting such things means control. There chips are connected to GPS.. What happens if it brakes, or what happens if it needs a repair? There are many things because of which I do not want to accept this idea.
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December 21, 2016, 12:11:18 AM
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Guys, do yourselves a favor and come to the next Hackers Congress (HCPP17) in Paralelni Polis. This is not an advertisement, it is just a good advice on how to broaden your horizons in terms of what is possible with Bitcoin. E.g., we accept only bitcoin, no fiat. There are already 30 people who come to us regularly and do payments with an NFC implant. You will be able to meet some of them at the congress and talk to them personally. I myself use it on a daily basis.

Here is my video demonstrating the payments - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdauofdGFBM

This thread is full of misconceptions and it would take too long to explain in detail. I will try to keep it short and you can come meet me in person to get more details.

- the health risks are very low, especially once it heals
- the security is ok for pocket money
- signing transactions inside the chip would protect you from someone stealing your private key, but you still have to trust the POS
- you can change the private key as often as you want, you also do not have to keep more btc on it than for a few coffees
- no, the god will not be angry, there is no beast, devil, or whatever, you will not go to hell for having a "glass splinter" under your skin
- surveillance with an NFC chip is a stupid idea, you have your phone for that
- in case it is not clear: there is no GPS in the chip, not even a battery
- the implant can not control you, detect what you eat, etc. -- it does not interact with your body
- you can go on airplane with the implant, the airport security check does not even detect it
- removing the implant is even easier than getting it in
- taxation is theft
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December 21, 2016, 12:21:06 AM
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I'm not sure what to think about it. This idea that I carry some chip in my body reminds me on some kind of surveillance and some science fiction movies. Probably it would be very practical and secure but it doesn't sound attractive to me at all. On.the other hand there are no guarantee that this chip couldn't be used for some wrong purpose. I'm not against inovations, on the contrary, but I wouldn't do this.
That's exactly what it reminds me of, too, and it's scary where the world is headed with technology.  The future is upon us, man.  We could be using each DNA sequence on each arm of a chromosome as a private key or some other thing.  Pharmacogenetics is becoming real.  Our consciousness is going to be uploaded to a cloud someday, and that's going to give us all immortality.  And hey, bitcoin is at $800.  Wooo hooo!!
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December 21, 2016, 01:49:24 AM
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Nevertheless, I want to know your opinion about this, since it would be pretty cool to have such a system to help spread mass adoption of the cryptocurrency.  Smiley

No, it wouldn't. Sounds a lot like Revelation, referring to the Anti-Christ's mark.

"And he causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: and that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name"

“If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark…the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God…”

Thanks. I've been waiting for some christian fear monger to post that.

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December 21, 2016, 03:29:04 AM
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I dont want and I dont agree using bitcoin digital devices to use bitcoin. First since it sounds like a demonic plan to control humanity in the end of times and many will protest against especially Christians. Second, if the government will allow it the criminals and the robbers will simply cut off your arms so they can access your bitcoins, I dont want to lose my arms that way. So i prefer bitcoin using app devices such as cp which we can install security features even if snatched they cannot easily access your bitcoins and also there will be no protest from the masses.
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December 21, 2016, 03:35:30 AM
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I'm not sure if this has ever been implemented yet, but can you imagine a way of paying with Bitcoin by just using your own body?

It would be more of like a microchip implanted into your left or right hand that would contain both your public and private keys to send and receive Bitcoins.

So in case you want to send or receive some BTC, you would just pass your hand over at a scanner and it would perform the desired operation. This is would make it a very convenient and easy way to transact, and carry your Bitcoins with you anytime, anywhere. However, the only thing to be considered would be the security of your private key from within your implant, to protect your funds from theft.

Nevertheless, I want to know your opinion about this, since it would be pretty cool to have such a system to help spread mass adoption of the cryptocurrency.  Smiley
Thats good idea but too hard to implement and there's so many risks with that, first your health if this chip can be good to person's body, and to become safe, once bad people knows that you handle/own lots bitcoin in your body/hand well you're in danger and be chased with this bad guys.

You are right it is very risky when it comes to health and also in danger if someone will know that you do have a chip that you are holding a big amount of bitcoin thats it is risky. When it comes to healt it very risky also because we dont know if your body will accept the chip or not if your body will not accept it then it is very dangerous
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December 21, 2016, 03:46:54 AM
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I'm not sure if this has ever been implemented yet, but can you imagine a way of paying with Bitcoin by just using your own body?

It would be more of like a microchip implanted into your left or right hand that would contain both your public and private keys to send and receive Bitcoins.

So in case you want to send or receive some BTC, you would just pass your hand over at a scanner and it would perform the desired operation. This is would make it a very convenient and easy way to transact, and carry your Bitcoins with you anytime, anywhere. However, the only thing to be considered would be the security of your private key from within your implant, to protect your funds from theft.

Nevertheless, I want to know your opinion about this, since it would be pretty cool to have such a system to help spread mass adoption of the cryptocurrency.  Smiley
Lol. I think that idea is from the movie i watched before. If im not mistaken. Its from Justin Timberlake movie. I just dont know what the title of that movie. The difference of this idea is its time not bitcoin. Does anyone here watched this movie?
Thats a good idea tho. It will be a lot easier to transfer funds. But not wise enough. What if the person you are going to tranfer funds has a infectious desease?
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December 21, 2016, 06:15:16 AM
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I'm not sure if this has ever been implemented yet, but can you imagine a way of paying with Bitcoin by just using your own body?

It would be more of like a microchip implanted into your left or right hand that would contain both your public and private keys to send and receive Bitcoins.

So in case you want to send or receive some BTC, you would just pass your hand over at a scanner and it would perform the desired operation. This is would make it a very convenient and easy way to transact, and carry your Bitcoins with you anytime, anywhere. However, the only thing to be considered would be the security of your private key from within your implant, to protect your funds from theft.

Nevertheless, I want to know your opinion about this, since it would be pretty cool to have such a system to help spread mass adoption of the cryptocurrency.  Smiley
Lol. I think that idea is from the movie i watched before. If im not mistaken. Its from Justin Timberlake movie. I just dont know what the title of that movie. The difference of this idea is its time not bitcoin. Does anyone here watched this movie?
Thats a good idea tho. It will be a lot easier to transfer funds. But not wise enough. What if the person you are going to tranfer funds has a infectious desease?
That movie where time is currency? That was a decent movie but I think this whole idea is much older than just that movie. Still I again think that mixing money and implants seems like a very bad idea.
No. Time is their life. You should watch that movie . its really a good movie to watch. http://m.imdb.com/title/tt1637688/
Theres no aging. Only time is their life. They were also able to transfer that time to extends ones life.
The title of that movie is "In time". Starring Justin Timberlake and Amanda Seyfried.
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December 21, 2016, 06:22:58 AM
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This seems like an interesting idea and this is actually possible to do with our current technology but won't be happening anytime soon I guess since there are a lot of problems associated with it.
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December 21, 2016, 06:27:26 AM
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Brainwallet is something similar but it does not actually "implants" into human body. Instead, we memorize the passphrase in our brain and then use it.

The idea of Bitcoin implants is actually good and I see a bright future with it as technology continue to grows to provide more innovation and security.


Interesting article. Thanks for sharing the article. When I first read the topic, I thought to myself that this can happen but not with today's technology.

Yeah, I remember reading about that article about some guy that already did the first payment with his hand or something like that, throught a chip that read a QR code or something. The thing is, it's pretty stupid thing to do in my book. In the future once bitcoin is 1 mansion per coin, you are asking for some robber to your hand and use it to go shopping..

If one Bitcoin is equal to 1 mansion worth. Then ... who would store 1 mansion worth of Bitcoin in their bio-wallet. I don't think any average person will store 1 mansion worth of Bitcoin inside a wallet that is located within the same system - be it software, hardware, offline or even paper wallet.

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December 21, 2016, 06:58:38 AM
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While reading the OP, I remember the movie  "In time" starring Justin Timberlake, where everything around them is run by that time that are in their wrist, every transaction they have have to be paid with time that are saved in them, the more you have it, the more you are going to live like an immortal.... BTT, I think it's a good idea, like having a metal bracelet and your bitcoin wallet is in there, or it is tattooed in your hands...  Smiley
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December 21, 2016, 07:03:54 AM
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I'm not sure if this has ever been implemented yet, but can you imagine a way of paying with Bitcoin by just using your own body?

It would be more of like a microchip implanted into your left or right hand that would contain both your public and private keys to send and receive Bitcoins.

So in case you want to send or receive some BTC, you would just pass your hand over at a scanner and it would perform the desired operation. This is would make it a very convenient and easy way to transact, and carry your Bitcoins with you anytime, anywhere. However, the only thing to be considered would be the security of your private key from within your implant, to protect your funds from theft.

Nevertheless, I want to know your opinion about this, since it would be pretty cool to have such a system to help spread mass adoption of the cryptocurrency.  Smiley

And the criminals will cut your hand to steal the microchip. Grin Just kidding.

This idea is too futuristic and it`s pointless to implement this nowadays.

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December 21, 2016, 07:12:00 AM
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Why do you need to put a stupid chip into your arm to do that, if you can simply insert it into a piece of jewelry or better yet, just use tap-and-go credit cards. The people doing this, just wants to be controversial and are desperate for attention. It reminds me about the story of the NASA spending millions on developing a pen that would write in zero-gravity. The Russians spent nothing on this, and simply used a pencil.  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Do not try to re-invent the wheel, we use 100's of other methods and it is just as convenient and safe as a chip in the arm. < overkill >

 

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December 21, 2016, 07:42:00 AM
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This would scare the fart out off some religious nuts. You know, the Mark of the Beast and stuff...

Anyway, having your btc in a chip implanted into your hand would not guarantee that it won't get stolen. They for example, can just tear it of your flesh, etc.
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December 21, 2016, 07:49:35 AM
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No, at least for me... The price needed for the surgery for the implant is high, and if the bitcoin wallet is implanted and someone have hacked your wallet by some ways then your wallet will become useless and you'll have to change your wallet (with lots of pain) or keep that useless wallet in your hand...

Also if one day no one use Bitcoin and they become worthless (other than being a part of the Internet history), the wallet in your hand will also become useless and you'll have to carry that piece of circuit in your hand for life...

I'll not implant any other thing (including tattoos) into/onto any part of my body unless it is a life-saving medical machine. But this will not happen for me in the near future - I'm still young and being healthy now.

Goodbye bitcoin!
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December 21, 2016, 08:02:25 AM
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I don't but this kind of technology might give criminals an idea. Making your body a wallet for Bitcoin can be dangerous. Because bad people will just cut/severe your body part in order to obtain all your Bitcoins. Also not only that they can also kidnap you and do the same result, stealing all your Bitcoin. I am contented with what is holding my Bitcoin now.
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December 21, 2016, 08:29:06 AM
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Most of the invention in technology are made to improve life but most times come with another problem. The bitcoin NFC(Near field communication) implant is not new( more than 2years) but just an upgrade to the previous implants. The implant function also with credit cards information, key card data,bitcoin keys etc. It was demonstrated early in the year by a prof in Ukraine, it was describe to be absurd, like 'do we really need it?'. Body filled gadget are not as convenient to some people's mind. The chip might be cheap but expensive to implant. In the foreseeable future there might be health implications. Technology is improving at the good and bad side of life. If the bad side of technology gets better than the good, there will be a loss, which make it vulnerable to be hacked.
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December 21, 2016, 08:30:11 AM
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I'm such a Luddite - I think it is foolish to carry contactless cards, let alone use them. I sent all mine back and use standard cards.

 Why risk somebody stealing your Bitcoin when you shake hands with a thief if you used this implant idea?

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