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December 21, 2016, 02:01:15 PM
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Guys, I don't get it. If you are saying "Once a reasonable profit is made, you have to pay our share and withdraw your balance" why don't you play by yourself and have all the profit not just a share? Also you say on your site that the minimum investment is 0.1 Bitcoin which is a big money and and I can't see why would people invest such amount on an unknown site.

Because they know they will not really win every game they play. Because this is gambling. Experience doesn't give them any edge. In the event they lose all your money they don't have liability. They will just say, "sorry boss, we lost your bankroll better luck next time" then just go about their lives and tries to trick another fool. I don't believe them.

If they really are good gamblers, then post a live video of themselves gambling at some online casino where we can watch the video and at the same time look at their bets in the casino. Let's see if they do well and get a profit.
Yes. Do this.
You really can't expect us to let you handle our money and play for us, just like that.
 
And anyway, "professional gamblers"? If you're really professional gamblers that are great/expert at bankroll management, you should be able to earn a good enough amount from your "professional gambling".
Thus, why aren't you playing for yourself?
Instead, you're here asking for people to fund your play?
For 50% of the profit with no liability whatsoever? Dream on.

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December 21, 2016, 04:34:03 PM
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Over a period of time when a person observes what we do, gradually they can become a professional gambler as well.  Of course loss is a common factor for gambling and anything based on speculation.  But here the question is to minimize the loss.  Let be honest.. Even god cannot gamble without loss.  But we have to minimize the loss and increase the chances of more win. Most of the people do not have discipline over their money management.  Our service will help them for sure.
Ahh, you help to minimize the loss, but take 50% if your customer catch a stroke of luck. If you help to minimize the loss, then your commission should be based on the amount your customer lost less, obviously? No idea how you could prove how much your customer lost less because of your "assistance", but that would be the way to proceed.
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December 21, 2016, 05:00:34 PM
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But why you have to wait for a longer run.
It doesn't always have to be a longer run. When you make a bet on a 1% house edge, you are expected to lose 1% of your bet. Same thing happens when you make another bet, or another one, or 500, e.t.c. You might not lose on your first bet, but you could. Going to a different site won't help. No one will be stupid enough to fall for this and have 0.1BTC at the same time on this forum.

Yeah few sites do not allow.  The profit we make will be less than the amount we wagger.. Yeah there are always chance of losing.  But how much we lose matters.  Either make a small profit or lose little.   We said play with different site for a reason.  Assume we have 100 players with 0.1 btc each.  Then by chance if luck favors us and make a good profit, it will drain the bank roll of a gambling site.  So it is better to split the investment to different sites.  In this way it will not be a loss for the gambling sites as well...

Moneypot has a bankroll of 500 BTC. BitDice has 3000 BTC, and so does satoshiDice. SafeDice has 236 BTC.

If you win x1.99 every time, those sites would lose ~10 BTC. I wouldn't call "draining the bankroll" when they only lost 0.4% of the bankroll (which happens all the times with whales). The small profit that you expect to make will always be smaller than the expected loss for the same session, so you cannot make a profit in the long run. Give it up and trying another forum. People here are mostly educated on this, or don't have 0.1BTC.

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December 21, 2016, 07:13:28 PM
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Guys, I don't get it. If you are saying "Once a reasonable profit is made, you have to pay our share and withdraw your balance" why don't you play by yourself and have all the profit not just a share? Also you say on your site that the minimum investment is 0.1 Bitcoin which is a big money and and I can't see why would people invest such amount on an unknown site.

I have already answered in this thread for your first question. 0.1 bitcoin is not a big money for most of the people.. It is worth around 80 USD as of now.  We will take a maximum of 25 percent risk from that money...

I respected you, but i want to clear some points, You know gambling is not depend on our experience base, also i don't know myself, should i believe you or not? Because as you said many gamblers know about it, also including me. So what is the different between you and me? If i win so it is my luck and if i lose so its mean it is my bad luck, nothing strange thing will be happened with us. 

Gambling and betting mostly work on luck. But skill also plays a vital role.  It will be helpful for the people who are losing regularly.  We do not force you or any one to believe us.  The choice is absolutely yours...

Guys, I don't get it. If you are saying "Once a reasonable profit is made, you have to pay our share and withdraw your balance" why don't you play by yourself and have all the profit not just a share? Also you say on your site that the minimum investment is 0.1 Bitcoin which is a big money and and I can't see why would people invest such amount on an unknown site.

Because they know they will not really win every game they play. Because this is gambling. Experience doesn't give them any edge. In the event they lose all your money they don't have liability. They will just say, "sorry boss, we lost your bankroll better luck next time" then just go about their lives and tries to trick another fool. I don't believe them.

If they really are good gamblers, then post a live video of themselves gambling at some online casino where we can watch the video and at the same time look at their bets in the casino. Let's see if they do well and get a profit.

When we play, the user is going to watch it live..  If the loss exceeds, he can very well stop.  Why will a person allow us to lose the entire money?  Experience and skill can help us to earn a limited profit or lose a small amount.  There is nothing to trick or fool any one. It is your personal choice to believe or not.. I respect every one's policy of believing and not believing...

Posting a video is not a big deal. But when a video is posted, every one starts to follow the same methods and at some point of time those methods will not work.  That is the reason we tried to limit the exposure..

But still people are requesting, we have planned to record the video when we are playing for a client and will post it with the client's permission...

There are obvious some methods of gambling that are better than others and bankroll management does affect the rate at which you may lose, but in the long run you will still lose. I think you are just better off gambling your on your own rather than hiring someone to do it for you. What is the fun in letting someone else gamble for you? I think most of the enjoyment from gambling should be the experience itself. You really shouldn't get into gambling just for the potential profit as you will likely end up disappointed.

It is your personal view and i completely respect it...

I feel gambling should be played for fun . Whether you win or loose it doesn't matter at the end of the day ( Unless you are a high roller ) , if you ask me to deposit into some others account and they play it and win big and give it back , I don't even want that money because there is no fun in it.

I respect your policy...

Guys, I don't get it. If you are saying "Once a reasonable profit is made, you have to pay our share and withdraw your balance" why don't you play by yourself and have all the profit not just a share? Also you say on your site that the minimum investment is 0.1 Bitcoin which is a big money and and I can't see why would people invest such amount on an unknown site.

Because they know they will not really win every game they play. Because this is gambling. Experience doesn't give them any edge. In the event they lose all your money they don't have liability. They will just say, "sorry boss, we lost your bankroll better luck next time" then just go about their lives and tries to trick another fool. I don't believe them.

If they really are good gamblers, then post a live video of themselves gambling at some online casino where we can watch the video and at the same time look at their bets in the casino. Let's see if they do well and get a profit.
Yes. Do this.
You really can't expect us to let you handle our money and play for us, just like that.
 
And anyway, "professional gamblers"? If you're really professional gamblers that are great/expert at bankroll management, you should be able to earn a good enough amount from your "professional gambling".
Thus, why aren't you playing for yourself?
Instead, you're here asking for people to fund your play?
For 50% of the profit with no liability whatsoever? Dream on.

I have answered this question already in this thread...

Over a period of time when a person observes what we do, gradually they can become a professional gambler as well.  Of course loss is a common factor for gambling and anything based on speculation.  But here the question is to minimize the loss.  Let be honest.. Even god cannot gamble without loss.  But we have to minimize the loss and increase the chances of more win. Most of the people do not have discipline over their money management.  Our service will help them for sure.
Ahh, you help to minimize the loss, but take 50% if your customer catch a stroke of luck. If you help to minimize the loss, then your commission should be based on the amount your customer lost less, obviously? No idea how you could prove how much your customer lost less because of your "assistance", but that would be the way to proceed.

Ill consider your thoughts...


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But why you have to wait for a longer run.
It doesn't always have to be a longer run. When you make a bet on a 1% house edge, you are expected to lose 1% of your bet. Same thing happens when you make another bet, or another one, or 500, e.t.c. You might not lose on your first bet, but you could. Going to a different site won't help. No one will be stupid enough to fall for this and have 0.1BTC at the same time on this forum.

Yeah few sites do not allow.  The profit we make will be less than the amount we wagger.. Yeah there are always chance of losing.  But how much we lose matters.  Either make a small profit or lose little.   We said play with different site for a reason.  Assume we have 100 players with 0.1 btc each.  Then by chance if luck favors us and make a good profit, it will drain the bank roll of a gambling site.  So it is better to split the investment to different sites.  In this way it will not be a loss for the gambling sites as well...

Moneypot has a bankroll of 500 BTC. BitDice has 3000 BTC, and so does satoshiDice. SafeDice has 236 BTC.

If you win x1.99 every time, those sites would lose ~10 BTC. I wouldn't call "draining the bankroll" when they only lost 0.4% of the bankroll (which happens all the times with whales). The small profit that you expect to make will always be smaller than the expected loss for the same session, so you cannot make a profit in the long run. Give it up and trying another forum. People here are mostly educated on this, or don't have 0.1BTC.

Yeah i agree with you.  But out of luck sometimes we get more profit than we expect.. Just for example i am saying this, even though it might not happen...

Assume if our client asks us to take full risk and his balance is 5 BTC.  If the odds are 90 times and if wins within a few rolls, his profit will be more and obviously the gambling site's bankroll will drain..  Gambling can either give you big profits or lose your investment.  So we do not do that.  We reduce the odds and also bet very less. 
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December 21, 2016, 07:43:31 PM
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I see most of the users reply here just to gain exposure for their signatures.. Anyway no problem at all.  I feel this thread has to be in the "Investor-based games" section. I am unable to move this thread to that section.  Hence i have created the same thread there.  I humbly request the admin to delete this thread as i have opened the same thread in the "Investor-based games" section few minutes back.  Ill not be replying any more in this thread.  Please ask all your questions on the new thread and ill be glad to reply...
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