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December 22, 2016, 01:45:56 AM
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https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2444494/germany-martial-law-war-angela-merkel-berlin-truck/


In a radio interview, Klaus Bouillon of Merkel’s CDU party said that Germany was in a “state of war”

Ministers on both sides of the political divide: “We must state that we are in a state of war, although some people who want to see only the good can not see.”

Any Germans here that can shed some more light on this situation or someone who's more informed about this?

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December 22, 2016, 01:54:58 AM
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unfortunately i think not, the economy's in decent shape and most people still aren't directly being made to feel the effects of the invasion, probably a few more years of merkel or something like merkel before things really kick off

Be radical, have principles, be absolute, be that which the bourgeoisie calls an extremist: give yourself without counting or calculating, don't accept what they call ‘the reality of life' and act in such a way that you won't be accepted by that kind of ‘life', never abandon the principle of struggle.
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December 22, 2016, 01:59:31 AM
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unfortunately i think not, the economy's in decent shape and most people still aren't directly being made to feel the effects of the invasion, probably a few more years of merkel or something like merkel before things really kick off

It's still scary to hear that this situation has escalated to this, should it take more dead people for them to do something about it?
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December 22, 2016, 04:05:32 AM
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It's still scary to hear that this situation has escalated to this, should it take more dead people for them to do something about it?
short answer is yes.

radical events are needed to force mollycoddled westerners from their comfort zones, as long as germans enjoy nice easy lives they won't rise up and drive the invaders out, hell most of them refuse even to vote for anti immigration parties because being labelled racist is the worst thing they can imagine happening to them

i've said it before and it bears repeating, it is the women (who support migrants) and cowards (who also support migrants) who ultimately take the brunt of the invaders' savagery and at this point in time they aren't worth shedding a drop of blood for, things are going to turn around soon but i think it begins in netherlands and france not germany, denazification infected the germans with an unusually severe case of pussification even by western standards, it may be that the islamic population needs to rise to 40% and literal anarchy be unleashed upon that country for the people to start fighting back

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December 22, 2016, 09:20:58 AM
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This looks like opaque Russian propaganda. Even if the politics are rubbish right now, Germany is going nowhere and is still the main powerhouse in Europe. I constantly see this lame undercurrent in the politics forum of subtle and twisted threads pushing the agenda that Russia is good, West is bad. Except it's not, the rest of the world sees that every day and it's laughable to suggest.

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December 22, 2016, 10:31:24 AM
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This looks like opaque Russian propaganda. Even if the politics are rubbish right now, Germany is going nowhere and is still the main powerhouse in Europe. I constantly see this lame undercurrent in the politics forum of subtle and twisted threads pushing the agenda that Russia is good, West is bad. Except it's not, the rest of the world sees that every day and it's laughable to suggest.
You are right of course but the lie told 100 times becomes the truth. This is the principle of propaganda. And as if wasn't awful, but it works. Now let's see how to change the opinion about Putin. Russia spends billions of dollars a year on propaganda.
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December 22, 2016, 11:45:10 AM
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Muslims should tone down these attacks or they
will be wipe off the face of the Earth as announced by Trump.

He was talking about the fanatics like those Wahabbi assholes. Great way to turn a quote into something completely different, you should contemplate on working for BBC.
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December 22, 2016, 01:18:43 PM
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Muslims should tone down these attacks or they
will be wipe off the face of the Earth as announced by Trump.

He was talking about the fanatics like those Wahabbi assholes. Great way to turn a quote into something completely different, you should contemplate on working for BBC.

Radicals are directly responsible, ALL Muslims are indirectly responsible.
I agree with you. The whole world is struggling with Muslim fanatics except Muslims. They only fight among themselves for power. In Christian countries Muslims maintain neutrality. This can lead to the fact that they too will become enemies.

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December 22, 2016, 02:04:45 PM
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ALL Muslims are indirectly responsible.

Oh I certainly agree on that with you.
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December 22, 2016, 02:15:35 PM
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Radicals are directly responsible, ALL Muslims are indirectly responsible.
the people who import muslims into europe are responsible

Be radical, have principles, be absolute, be that which the bourgeoisie calls an extremist: give yourself without counting or calculating, don't accept what they call ‘the reality of life' and act in such a way that you won't be accepted by that kind of ‘life', never abandon the principle of struggle.
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December 22, 2016, 04:56:48 PM
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Radicals are directly responsible, ALL Muslims are indirectly responsible.
the people who import muslims into europe are responsible

Who allow mass immigration without any background check on who and what they are.
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December 22, 2016, 04:57:53 PM
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Can't say things like this. Germany is one of the most important states in this world.

That's why extremists are targeting it the most and that's why there will be a strong fight to preserve Germany as it is.
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December 22, 2016, 05:01:04 PM
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Radicals are directly responsible, ALL Muslims are indirectly responsible.
the people who import muslims into europe are responsible

Who allow mass immigration without any background check on who and what they are.
The worst thing that uncontrolled migration could destroy the European Union, but no one does not fight with it. Why? I'm sure that is not the problem in Syria to create a guarded refugee camp and keep them there.
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December 22, 2016, 05:11:10 PM
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This looks like opaque Russian propaganda. Even if the politics are rubbish right now, Germany is going nowhere and is still the main powerhouse in Europe. I constantly see this lame undercurrent in the politics forum of subtle and twisted threads pushing the agenda that Russia is good, West is bad. Except it's not, the rest of the world sees that every day and it's laughable to suggest.

It is laughable to blame Russia for internal issues in Germany. It was Merkel who invited the Syrians and Iraqis to come to Germany. She was hoping for a Nobel Peace prize... but unfortunately someone else won it. Now I don't understand Russia's role here.

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December 22, 2016, 05:19:52 PM
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This looks like opaque Russian propaganda. Even if the politics are rubbish right now, Germany is going nowhere and is still the main powerhouse in Europe. I constantly see this lame undercurrent in the politics forum of subtle and twisted threads pushing the agenda that Russia is good, West is bad. Except it's not, the rest of the world sees that every day and it's laughable to suggest.

It is laughable to blame Russia for internal issues in Germany. It was Merkel who invited the Syrians and Iraqis to come to Germany. She was hoping for a Nobel Peace prize... but unfortunately someone else won it. Now I don't understand Russia's role here.

Russia is not directly responsible for situation in Germany, but they are playing very ''dirty'' game in Syria, with their ''friend'' Assad.
It's obvious that, as result of such Russian policy in Syria, to eliminate any opposition to Assad, many people had to escape from Syria to Turkey, and further to Europe.
I think that Merkel did something very humanistic and generous, to accept and help all this refuges, and give them new chance for life.
Don't forget that behind most terrorist attacks in Europe are not refugees but second of third generations of Muslims born in Europe.
Is Germany getting near the end?
No!
Germany in history passed even much more difficult time, like in 1918 or 1945 but they survived and became the most influential and powerful European country.
Nobody can break German's will and strong character.

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December 22, 2016, 05:20:39 PM
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This looks like opaque Russian propaganda. Even if the politics are rubbish right now, Germany is going nowhere and is still the main powerhouse in Europe. I constantly see this lame undercurrent in the politics forum of subtle and twisted threads pushing the agenda that Russia is good, West is bad. Except it's not, the rest of the world sees that every day and it's laughable to suggest.

It is laughable to blame Russia for internal issues in Germany. It was Merkel who invited the Syrians and Iraqis to come to Germany. She was hoping for a Nobel Peace prize... but unfortunately someone else won it. Now I don't understand Russia's role here.
And who provoked the conflict of this scale in Syria? Of course Merkel's fault that she allowed the "locusts" in Europe. Only it does not remove the blame from Russia. Zhirinovsky even said that in the interests of Russia to the war in Syria never ends.
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December 22, 2016, 05:35:30 PM
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This looks like opaque Russian propaganda. Even if the politics are rubbish right now, Germany is going nowhere and is still the main powerhouse in Europe. I constantly see this lame undercurrent in the politics forum of subtle and twisted threads pushing the agenda that Russia is good, West is bad. Except it's not, the rest of the world sees that every day and it's laughable to suggest.

It is laughable to blame Russia for internal issues in Germany. It was Merkel who invited the Syrians and Iraqis to come to Germany. She was hoping for a Nobel Peace prize... but unfortunately someone else won it. Now I don't understand Russia's role here.
And who provoked the conflict of this scale in Syria? Of course Merkel's fault that she allowed the "locusts" in Europe. Only it does not remove the blame from Russia. Zhirinovsky even said that in the interests of Russia to the war in Syria never ends.

It was the NATO which provoked the civil war in Syria (in 2012), when they funded the Al Qaeda and other Islamist groups so that they could overthrow Assad. Russia, on the other hand got involved only in 2015.

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December 22, 2016, 05:44:25 PM
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This looks like opaque Russian propaganda. Even if the politics are rubbish right now, Germany is going nowhere and is still the main powerhouse in Europe. I constantly see this lame undercurrent in the politics forum of subtle and twisted threads pushing the agenda that Russia is good, West is bad. Except it's not, the rest of the world sees that every day and it's laughable to suggest.

It is laughable to blame Russia for internal issues in Germany. It was Merkel who invited the Syrians and Iraqis to come to Germany. She was hoping for a Nobel Peace prize... but unfortunately someone else won it. Now I don't understand Russia's role here.
And who provoked the conflict of this scale in Syria? Of course Merkel's fault that she allowed the "locusts" in Europe. Only it does not remove the blame from Russia. Zhirinovsky even said that in the interests of Russia to the war in Syria never ends.

It was the NATO which provoked the civil war in Syria (in 2012), when they funded the Al Qaeda and other Islamist groups so that they could overthrow Assad. Russia, on the other hand got involved only in 2015.
Can certainly they financed the rebels, but you forgot that Russia financed the Assad regime. In addition, NATO was not at war in Syria. So Russia is to blame in this conflict. Do not be surprised if Merkel after the end of his term will go to work in Gazprom.
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December 22, 2016, 05:50:34 PM
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Do not be surprised if Merkel after the end of his term will go to work in Gazprom.

Merkel will get a job from the Qatargas, once she is defeated in the 2017 federal elections. Gazprom will never consider her, as she is one of the most Russophobic politicians in the world right now. And also, why they need another German, when Gerhard Schröder is doing such a good job?

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December 22, 2016, 06:19:08 PM
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Do not be surprised if Merkel after the end of his term will go to work in Gazprom.

Merkel will get a job from the Qatargas, once she is defeated in the 2017 federal elections. Gazprom will never consider her, as she is one of the most Russophobic politicians in the world right now. And also, why they need another German, when Gerhard Schröder is doing such a good job?
Schroeder is a waste material. He has done his job when lobbied for the Nord stream. Merkel has made for Putin no less a service. Europe is flooded with refugees and triggered its collapse. And what politicians say I don't believe. I judge by deeds.
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