Silver Bitcoin...literally

[johnniewalker]

Hi everyone,
First of all, I can already imagine the trollish/otherwise unwarranted replies. Keep them coming.
I'll explain exactly what I'm talking about, and how an argument against mine does not make sense.

As soon as I joined the forums I got into melting scrap silver. With that and a bunch of silver shot II made a few [terribly ugly] ingots. There is a significant difference in melting points of silver and alloys in 925 silver (usually copper). Thus, I thought I could melt this 925 silver (and A LOT of shot) into .999 fine silver. So, I posted the three ingots and it didn't take long for someone to PM me saying they were interested (I'll leave their name anonymous), and the sale was made. The buyer thanked me and seemed very happy with the deal, but about 3 weeks later I got a message saying: "bad news: I did an assay of the silver and it wasn't pure" (in-fact, he mentioned actual percentage values-which would have been physically impossible. He said he wanted his money back. First I asked to see a receipt for the assay. He could not produce one. Then I sent him a bunch of 90% silver coins to compensate for this "discrepancy". In the end, he ended up with a significant amount of silver-definitely more than he originally payed for. But no he said, its a matter of "purity". He said that the ingots I sent him were worthless because their silver content was not the same as what the stamp on them said. Uhhh…I hand-hammered those numbers/digits all crooked-ass. Furthermore, NO reputable dealer would buy silver that was hand-stamped, they only buy from recognized mints. And finally, had he ever heard of "melt value"? Because the value of the silver he had ultimately received from me was far higher than the price he originally paid me in bitcoins. Feel free to look in past threads if you want. I am very over the issue.







Anyways, I am trying to see what kind of interest this would gain. Below is my work. I know a guy who said he would make a metal hand-hammer stamp for the bitcoin logo. Would you buy that?

[TECSHARE]

Hi everyone,
First of all, I can already imagine the trollish/otherwise unwarranted replies. Keep them coming.
I'll explain exactly what I'm talking about, and how an argument against mine does not make sense.

As soon as I joined the forums I got into melting scrap silver. With that and a bunch of silver shot II made a few [terribly ugly] ingots. There is a significant difference in melting points of silver and alloys in 925 silver (usually copper). Thus, I thought I could melt this 925 silver (and A LOT of shot) into .999 fine silver. So, I posted the three ingots and it didn't take long for someone to PM me saying they were interested (I'll leave their name anonymous), and the sale was made. The buyer thanked me and seemed very happy with the deal, but about 3 weeks later I got a message saying: "bad news: I did an assay of the silver and it wasn't pure" (in-fact, he mentioned actual percentage values-which would have been physically impossible. He said he wanted his money back. First I asked to see a receipt for the assay. He could not produce one. Then I sent him a bunch of 90% silver coins to compensate for this "discrepancy". In the end, he ended up with a significant amount of silver-definitely more than he originally payed for. But no he said, its a matter of "purity". He said that the ingots I sent him were worthless because their silver content was not the same as what the stamp on them said. Uhhh…I hand-hammered those numbers/digits all crooked-ass. Furthermore, NO reputable dealer would buy silver that was hand-stamped, they only buy from recognized mints. And finally, had he ever heard of "melt value"? Because the value of the silver he had ultimately received from me was far higher than the price he originally paid me in bitcoins. Feel free to look in past threads if you want. I am very over the issue.







Anyways, I am trying to see what kind of interest this would gain. Below is my work. I know a guy who said he would make a metal hand-hammer stamp for the bitcoin logo. Would you buy that?

In contract law any part of the agreement you do not fulfill generally puts you in breech of that contract, obligating you to provide a refund, regardless of the price of silver or Bitcoin. Please tell me why you say you are over things like this yet you still constantly bring them up? Who are you trying to convince, us or yourself?

[pheaonix]

thats pretty cool. hope you don't get scammed like that again

[johnniewalker]

Hi everyone,
First of all, I can already imagine the trollish/otherwise unwarranted replies. Keep them coming.
I'll explain exactly what I'm talking about, and how an argument against mine does not make sense.

As soon as I joined the forums I got into melting scrap silver. With that and a bunch of silver shot II made a few [terribly ugly] ingots. There is a significant difference in melting points of silver and alloys in 925 silver (usually copper). Thus, I thought I could melt this 925 silver (and A LOT of shot) into .999 fine silver. So, I posted the three ingots and it didn't take long for someone to PM me saying they were interested (I'll leave their name anonymous), and the sale was made. The buyer thanked me and seemed very happy with the deal, but about 3 weeks later I got a message saying: "bad news: I did an assay of the silver and it wasn't pure" (in-fact, he mentioned actual percentage values-which would have been physically impossible. He said he wanted his money back. First I asked to see a receipt for the assay. He could not produce one. Then I sent him a bunch of 90% silver coins to compensate for this "discrepancy". In the end, he ended up with a significant amount of silver-definitely more than he originally payed for. But no he said, its a matter of "purity". He said that the ingots I sent him were worthless because their silver content was not the same as what the stamp on them said. Uhhh…I hand-hammered those numbers/digits all crooked-ass. Furthermore, NO reputable dealer would buy silver that was hand-stamped, they only buy from recognized mints. And finally, had he ever heard of "melt value"? Because the value of the silver he had ultimately received from me was far higher than the price he originally paid me in bitcoins. Feel free to look in past threads if you want. I am very over the issue.







Anyways, I am trying to see what kind of interest this would gain. Below is my work. I know a guy who said he would make a metal hand-hammer stamp for the bitcoin logo. Would you buy that?

In contract law any part of the agreement you do not fulfill generally puts you in breech of that contract, obligating you to provide a refund, regardless of the price of silver or Bitcoin. Please tell me why you say you are over things like this yet you still constantly bring them up? Who are you trying to convince, us or yourself?

Why am I bringing it up? Because its relevant and I'm defending myself. You have to be about the most annoying person I have ever come across online. Too stubborn to forget a grudge you started for no reason (even Casascius agreed-not to bring him into this), yet still you're around to taunt me.

Wait-is this about the fact that I revealed the "Mine" signs you're selling are available for $1.99 (and probably even less elsewhere, the internet is filled with military surplus sites) when you're asking about $5-$6? Well I had to look elsewhere since you refuse to trade with me ; )

[johnniewalker]

thats pretty cool. hope you don't get scammed like that again

Thank you. Me too.

[TECSHARE]

Hi everyone,
First of all, I can already imagine the trollish/otherwise unwarranted replies. Keep them coming.
I'll explain exactly what I'm talking about, and how an argument against mine does not make sense.

As soon as I joined the forums I got into melting scrap silver. With that and a bunch of silver shot II made a few [terribly ugly] ingots. There is a significant difference in melting points of silver and alloys in 925 silver (usually copper). Thus, I thought I could melt this 925 silver (and A LOT of shot) into .999 fine silver. So, I posted the three ingots and it didn't take long for someone to PM me saying they were interested (I'll leave their name anonymous), and the sale was made. The buyer thanked me and seemed very happy with the deal, but about 3 weeks later I got a message saying: "bad news: I did an assay of the silver and it wasn't pure" (in-fact, he mentioned actual percentage values-which would have been physically impossible. He said he wanted his money back. First I asked to see a receipt for the assay. He could not produce one. Then I sent him a bunch of 90% silver coins to compensate for this "discrepancy". In the end, he ended up with a significant amount of silver-definitely more than he originally payed for. But no he said, its a matter of "purity". He said that the ingots I sent him were worthless because their silver content was not the same as what the stamp on them said. Uhhh…I hand-hammered those numbers/digits all crooked-ass. Furthermore, NO reputable dealer would buy silver that was hand-stamped, they only buy from recognized mints. And finally, had he ever heard of "melt value"? Because the value of the silver he had ultimately received from me was far higher than the price he originally paid me in bitcoins. Feel free to look in past threads if you want. I am very over the issue.







Anyways, I am trying to see what kind of interest this would gain. Below is my work. I know a guy who said he would make a metal hand-hammer stamp for the bitcoin logo. Would you buy that?

In contract law any part of the agreement you do not fulfill generally puts you in breech of that contract, obligating you to provide a refund, regardless of the price of silver or Bitcoin. Please tell me why you say you are over things like this yet you still constantly bring them up? Who are you trying to convince, us or yourself?

Why am I bringing it up? Because its relevant and I'm defending myself. You have to be about the most annoying person I have ever come across online. Too stubborn to forget a grudge you started for no reason (even Casascius agreed-not to bring him into this), yet still you're around to taunt me.

Wait-is this about the fact that I revealed the "Mine" signs you're selling are available for $1.99 (and probably even less elsewhere, the internet is filled with military surplus sites) when you're asking about $5-$6? Well I had to look elsewhere since you refuse to trade with me ; )

Defending your self against whom? As far as I can tell no one has brought it up for a while except for you. As far is casacius is concerned I had to get moderator intervention to get him to stop following me around like a tool (much like yourself), so I am sure his opinion is without bias. As far as the mine signs I didn't even know you posted nor do I care, but feel free to continue to "let it go" by following me around even more and posting in all of my threads. You will be amazed to see what it gets you. BTW how did your trade with Flux78 go?

[shibaji]

One awesome guy with knowledge in World coins, and another awesome guy who deals with bhut jolakia and other exotic stuff. Do you guys really have to fight ? I am so sad 

[TECSHARE]

One awesome guy with knowledge in World coins, and another awesome guy who deals with bhut jolakia and other exotic stuff. Do you guys really have to fight ? I am so sad  

This isn't a fight, this is him following me around trying to prove something (who knows what). I have a right to decide who I transact with and chose to not transact with johnniewalker. A simple polite no wasn't good enough for him, even after repeated requests to not contact me, he continues to do so until this day. I would much rather have no interaction with him at all, but lately he has made a habit of finding reasons to insert himself into my threads. I am not sure what he is trying to accomplish, but it wont be anything helpful for him. Posts like this from complaints about him from trades that occurred MONTHS ago prove he has some trouble letting go of his obsessive focus.

[johnniewalker]

One awesome guy with knowledge in World coins, and another awesome guy who deals with bhut jolakia and other exotic stuff. Do you guys really have to fight ? I am so sad 

I gave in a while after we had our first "run-in". I said lets forget that, its the past, and it would be beneficial for us to trade together. He was so immature enough as to say after that that he would never trade with me. Tecshare-tell everyone that this is not true...dare ya. I don't hold grudges. But if someone does about me, its fun to fuck with them.

DONE

[TECSHARE]

One awesome guy with knowledge in World coins, and another awesome guy who deals with bhut jolakia and other exotic stuff. Do you guys really have to fight ? I am so sad 

I gave in a while after we had our first "run-in". I said lets forget that, its the past, and it would be beneficial for us to trade together. He was so immature enough as to say after that that he would never trade with me. Tecshare-tell everyone that this is not true...dare ya. I don't hold grudges. But if someone does about me, its fun to fuck with them.

DONE

Not trusting you with my money is immature? You desire reconciliation via a trade. I do not. I told you this and you ignored my requests. Daily posts on my marketplace threads sure appears to be a grudge to me. As far as fucking with me, you aren't. You are only hurting yourself.