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October 19, 2017, 03:14:28 PM
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If China legalizes BTC with some regulation, it would definitely be a beneficial call for all BTC users in the long term as there is no fear of being banned. But I don't understand the process they are adopting, it means User in China first have to buy coin X made by the Bank of China, then convert into BTC through exchanges. That means first user will pay fees to buy COIN X then again pay fees to transfer Coin X to exchange and in last fees need to be paid to buy BTC...that is 3x fees to buy and 3x to sell. This plan only is efficient if transaction fees of COIN X  would be negligible.

That would be the only way to keep their own currency relevant. Why buy that one when you could get Bitcoins, which would be perfectly legal in this scenario, right? But yeah, I hope they don't get greedy on the fees.
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October 21, 2017, 03:34:48 AM
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china is one of biggest market of cryptocurency, maybe the goverment made rules, for make sure their people keep safe, tracked.
for long term it will help crypto market

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October 21, 2017, 12:08:56 PM
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Why would the Chinese sell bitcoins for a currency that is completely controlled by the government. I think that would be more profitable to sell bitcoin for dollar on the stock exchanges which are outside Chinese jurisdiction. Then it will be possible to exchange bitcoin to dollar and send to the name in China. I am sure that this scheme will be profitable.
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October 23, 2017, 03:56:18 AM
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I agree with what you're saying, but knowing the chinese government, they're going to botch it and ruin the incentives for decentralized currency lol
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October 23, 2017, 04:15:58 AM
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Knowing China it will be likely to be done by them. They’re trying to control bitcoin in many ways directly or indirectly. They’ve done it by banning exchanges before as a result a 2800$ dip last September but failed. And now if they will make this, it will only target they’re citizens and outside of its country will not be affected. So whatever China does let them be for the reason most us don’t bother to care about them.
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October 23, 2017, 08:26:34 AM
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China no longer affects Bitcoin

China will no longer be able to negatively affect Bitcoin price, he has only 1% of the total volume of world trade. Although the future of the crypto market in China remains uncertain, the Chinese government can no longer manipulate the market and adversely affect the price of Bitcoin.

October 16, Professor and head of the Department of economy Panos Mourdoukoutas have suggested that the China market may reduce the price of Bitcoin below $5000.

The Chinese government has banned Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies, limiting trade them. As a result, the trading volume on the stock market of Bitcoin in China has significantly declined, accounting for about 1% of global transactions in the Bitcoin market.

Global stock market Bitcoin already restructured, as trading volumes have moved from China to a more sustainable, regulated and efficient markets such as Japan and South Korea.

The last thing the Chinese government can take is to prohibit the use of overthe-counter (OTC) markets such as LocalBitcoins. But, trading volume on the OTC markets of China considering only trade Bitcoins for about tens of millions of dollars on a weekly basis, which is a small fraction of the global trade volume of Bitcoin in contrast to these exchanges, as Bithumb that handle hundreds of millions of dollars in afternoon trading.

In the medium term, the strengthening of South Korean and Japanese markets, the global cryptocurrency market will be more institutional investors and the price of Bitcoin will continue to grow at a rapid pace. For the last four days the Bitcoin price has increased from $4500 to $6000, registering a weekly gain of $1120.
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October 23, 2017, 10:21:56 AM
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China no longer affects Bitcoin

China will no longer be able to negatively affect Bitcoin price, he has only 1% of the total volume of world trade. Although the future of the crypto market in China remains uncertain, the Chinese government can no longer manipulate the market and adversely affect the price of Bitcoin.

October 16, Professor and head of the Department of economy Panos Mourdoukoutas have suggested that the China market may reduce the price of Bitcoin below $5000.

The Chinese government has banned Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies, limiting trade them. As a result, the trading volume on the stock market of Bitcoin in China has significantly declined, accounting for about 1% of global transactions in the Bitcoin market.

Global stock market Bitcoin already restructured, as trading volumes have moved from China to a more sustainable, regulated and efficient markets such as Japan and South Korea.

The last thing the Chinese government can take is to prohibit the use of overthe-counter (OTC) markets such as LocalBitcoins. But, trading volume on the OTC markets of China considering only trade Bitcoins for about tens of millions of dollars on a weekly basis, which is a small fraction of the global trade volume of Bitcoin in contrast to these exchanges, as Bithumb that handle hundreds of millions of dollars in afternoon trading.

In the medium term, the strengthening of South Korean and Japanese markets, the global cryptocurrency market will be more institutional investors and the price of Bitcoin will continue to grow at a rapid pace. For the last four days the Bitcoin price has increased from $4500 to $6000, registering a weekly gain of $1120.

I think the biggest counter here is when Japan and South Korea adapted bitcoin. They in return made huge turnaround on bitcoin. Trading has just been made better thanks to this 2 countries. Although their were already other countries who adapted bitcoin, they took opportunity in bitcoin while China has banned trading in their country. Each countries has their own reasons for doing such but it changed how bitcoin can influence other nations.
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October 23, 2017, 01:24:00 PM
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It seems to me that this time the Chinese have outsmarted themselves. I'm not from China and I don't care what they come up with on its own territory. They had a chance to become leaders in the field of cryptocurrency but they missed their chance. Exchanges in South Korea and Japan will gladly take the sales volume in Chinese exchanges. People no matter where to buy and sell coins.
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October 23, 2017, 01:25:48 PM
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Knowing China it will be likely to be done by them. They’re trying to control bitcoin in many ways directly or indirectly. They’ve done it by banning exchanges before as a result a 2800$ dip last September but failed. And now if they will make this, it will only target they’re citizens and outside of its country will not be affected. So whatever China does let them be for the reason most us don’t bother to care about them.

They can't control Bitcoin they are trying to influence it but they will never be able to control it.
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December 04, 2017, 11:25:51 AM
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I also see it as the beginning of an effort among the Chinese establishment to make amends with American politicians in regards to the Chinese currency situation.American politicians wish to gain more fiscal maneuvering room without overly upsetting the CCP. The CCP may be willing to go along in a limited fashion in return for major concessions. This can be best interpreted as part of that ongoing process.They can not do that to the Chinese so China is giving the world an alternative trade currency.
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December 04, 2017, 03:44:40 PM
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My opinion is that with bitcoin you can only fight economic ways. If China or any other state can offer its citizens more favorable conditions they will work for Fiat. The problem is that the government cannot do. In this case, the people will find the opportunity to use bitcoin. If need be then people will start to leave the country. It will also have negative consequences for the state.
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December 17, 2017, 03:32:49 PM
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China is big.  In fact the bitcoin community in China is a small and very minor part of fintech.  However, with a billion people.Most mining pools are actually in China, which mean miners first sell their BTC to yuan and since the Central Bank of China doesn't control the Bitcoin, is a good business.
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