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December 31, 2016, 08:25:57 AM
Last edit: January 02, 2017, 11:22:13 AM by Granxis
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Value bets are wagers that are supposed to give you the best chance of gaining profit. Rather than just backing the favourites, many punters try to find a match where they believe the bookmaker has made a mistake when quoting the odds and wagers on such matches are regarded as value bets







        

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December 31, 2016, 08:31:50 AM
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December 31, 2016, 08:43:22 AM
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So basically this trying to find a mistake in the odds declared by the book makers. How would you do it though? I would be interested in learning this and would like to apply it on a NBA odds. How do you determine that an odd is wrong and we should bet on that odds on the sports book?
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December 31, 2016, 08:50:00 AM
Last edit: January 02, 2017, 11:28:50 AM by Granxis
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So basically this trying to find a mistake in the odds declared by the book makers. How would you do it though? I would be interested in learning this and would like to apply it on a NBA odds. How do you determine that an odd is wrong and we should bet on that odds on the sports book?

Respectful michkima

First of all, I am not looking for mistakes.
Follow my work rates and make notes, then make comparisons.
Weather conditions, player injuries, team status, rate changes are the leading factors.
These factors increase the likelihood of winning.
Yes I am recording the rates for the NBA, so I am recordings data of them.
I can share it in NBA if you want.
Again, I am not looking for errors.
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December 31, 2016, 08:51:50 AM
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Watching. Is thing going to be a pid tip thread at some point or always gonna be free?
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December 31, 2016, 09:02:19 AM
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So basically this trying to find a mistake in the odds declared by the book makers. How would you do it though? I would be interested in learning this and would like to apply it on a NBA odds. How do you determine that an odd is wrong and we should bet on that odds on the sports book?

Respectful michkima

First of all, I am not looking for mistakes.
Follow my work rates and make notes, then make comparisons.
Weather conditions, player injuries, team status, rate changes are the leading factors.
These factors increase the likelihood of winning.
Yes I am recording the rates for the NBA, so I am recordings data of them.
I can share it in NBA if you want.
Again, I am not looking for errors at times.
With Respect and Love

Sorry if I did offend you, but I did not mean any harm.

I would just like to know your methods. As in your OP, you mentioned
Quote
many punters try to find a match where they believe the bookmaker has made a mistake when quoting the odds and wagers on such matches are regarded as value bets
So I assumed you were talking about finding an error.

So in reality, you are analyzing the data of every match. I would respectfully ask, what makes your methods different from other tipsters in the forum as well as outside of the forum, if you don't mind me asking.
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December 31, 2016, 09:11:38 AM
Last edit: January 02, 2017, 11:28:43 AM by Granxis
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So basically this trying to find a mistake in the odds declared by the book makers. How would you do it though? I would be interested in learning this and would like to apply it on a NBA odds. How do you determine that an odd is wrong and we should bet on that odds on the sports book?

Respectful michkima

First of all, I am not looking for mistakes.
Follow my work rates and make notes, then make comparisons.
Weather conditions, player injuries, team status, rate changes are the leading factors.
These factors increase the likelihood of winning.
Yes I am recording the rates for the NBA, so I am recordings data of them.
I can share it in NBA if you want.
Again, I am not looking for errors at times.
With Respect and Love

Sorry if I did offend you, but I did not mean any harm.

I would just like to know your methods. As in your OP, you mentioned
Quote
many punters try to find a match where they believe the bookmaker has made a mistake when quoting the odds and wagers on such matches are regarded as value bets
So I assumed you were talking about finding an error.

So in reality, you are analyzing the data of every match. I would respectfully ask, what makes your methods different from other tipsters in the forum as well as outside of the forum, if you don't mind me asking.

I didn't offend you Smiley In summary my method; To rate and compare rates during certain periods and share of yours.



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December 31, 2016, 09:13:32 AM
Last edit: January 02, 2017, 11:28:34 AM by Granxis
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Watching. Is thing going to be a pid tip thread at some point or always gonna be free?
Of course it will always be free, if you win you can send me the tips Smiley


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December 31, 2016, 10:02:20 AM
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So basically this trying to find a mistake in the odds declared by the book makers. How would you do it though? I would be interested in learning this and would like to apply it on a NBA odds. How do you determine that an odd is wrong and we should bet on that odds on the sports book?

Respectful michkima

First of all, I am not looking for mistakes.
Follow my work rates and make notes, then make comparisons.
Weather conditions, player injuries, team status, rate changes are the leading factors.
These factors increase the likelihood of winning.
Yes I am recording the rates for the NBA, so I am recordings data of them.
I can share it in NBA if you want.
Again, I am not looking for errors at times.
With Respect and Love

Sorry if I did offend you, but I did not mean any harm.

I would just like to know your methods. As in your OP, you mentioned
Quote
many punters try to find a match where they believe the bookmaker has made a mistake when quoting the odds and wagers on such matches are regarded as value bets
So I assumed you were talking about finding an error.

So in reality, you are analyzing the data of every match. I would respectfully ask, what makes your methods different from other tipsters in the forum as well as outside of the forum, if you don't mind me asking.

I didn't offend you Smiley In summary my method; To rate and compare rates during certain periods and share of yours.
Alrighty then. The problem with the method though is that will you disclose the sports book you are looking at to compare rates? Another problem I see is that people who would follow your tips would have to act fast as odds in sports books change quite fast and a minute would be a game changer in your method.
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December 31, 2016, 10:09:53 AM
Last edit: January 02, 2017, 11:28:26 AM by Granxis
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So basically this trying to find a mistake in the odds declared by the book makers. How would you do it though? I would be interested in learning this and would like to apply it on a NBA odds. How do you determine that an odd is wrong and we should bet on that odds on the sports book?

Respectful michkima

First of all, I am not looking for mistakes.
Follow my work rates and make notes, then make comparisons.
Weather conditions, player injuries, team status, rate changes are the leading factors.
These factors increase the likelihood of winning.
Yes I am recording the rates for the NBA, so I am recordings data of them.
I can share it in NBA if you want.
Again, I am not looking for errors at times.
With Respect and Love

Sorry if I did offend you, but I did not mean any harm.

I would just like to know your methods. As in your OP, you mentioned
Quote
many punters try to find a match where they believe the bookmaker has made a mistake when quoting the odds and wagers on such matches are regarded as value bets
So I assumed you were talking about finding an error.

So in reality, you are analyzing the data of every match. I would respectfully ask, what makes your methods different from other tipsters in the forum as well as outside of the forum, if you don't mind me asking.

I didn't offend you Smiley In summary my method; To rate and compare rates during certain periods and share of yours.
Alrighty then. The problem with the method though is that will you disclose the sports book you are looking at to compare rates? Another problem I see is that people who would follow your tips would have to act fast as odds in sports books change quite fast and a minute would be a game changer in your method.

I use an ordinary bookmark, it is not a very important feature,especially within 1-2 hours very dynamic odds .


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December 31, 2016, 10:28:42 AM
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Well then, good luck with you thread here. I would still watch your thread too and see if I find anything good. I hope to find some great insights from your placed bets. But maybe you could give some explanations regarding your tips so that people would understand why you are betting on the odd. Good luck again OP.
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Well then, good luck with you thread here. I would still watch your thread too and see if I find anything good. I hope to find some great insights from your placed bets. But maybe you could give some explanations regarding your tips so that people would understand why you are betting on the odd. Good luck again OP.

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Bookies don't make errors, or at leas they make intentional errors to make the gamblers look dumb. The bookies pay a lot of money to the line setters (people who set the odds for certain events) and surely one single guy like you will have much much difficulties competing with them but I like and support your idea, that's why I will keep an eye on this thread.
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Are the bolded ones your picks? If so the only value odds I can see here is the 1st and the last 2  matches you shared us and the rest are all favorites. Like michkima said it would be better if you just give us some reasoning for every match that you bet on.

I use an ordinary bookmark, it is not a very important feature,especially within 1-2 hours very dynamic odds .
Not all sportsbook are the same, others offer higher margin than other sports so we might not get the same odds.

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Mon, 12:30 Middlesbrough       X           Leicester
                     2.32            3.35        3.30
                     2.65            3.10       2.95  




Mon, 13:00 Afc Wimbledon                    Millwall
                  2.50                 3.25            2.65
                  2.80                  3.20            2.40



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Mon, 15:00 West Bromwich         X          Hull
                1.67                   3.90         5.60
                 1.98                   3.30        4.45




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Is this service same with sports arbitrage? As i seen that you are looking for difference between odds and i guess if followed properly it can be a sure profits to all of us here the only problem with this is bookmakers change their odds quickly so we needed  to act quick to gain profits well ill be keeling my eye from here to understand more about this system.
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Soccer: Greece: Super League       Olympiacos Piraeus vs Asteras Tripolis
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January 04, 2017, 09:55:17 AM
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Tue , 18:00(UTC) Osasuna         X          Eibar
                      
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                        3.55            3.30         2.17





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