KNC Titan 300mh/Innsilicon 270mh/L3 250mh Bitmain Scrypt Miners Compared. Meh!

[QuintLeo]

The question is how many A2's are still out there and when the diff spikes, how much hash will be lost to those that are no longer profitable.

 I just ran the numbers - at the less than 5c/KWH rate for my area, diff has to almost TRIPLE before my A2 units hit breakeven.
 I might have to worry about that later this year, but I'm hoping to be in the even LESS expensive electric cost area one county over by then.

I'm at .068 kwh and I'll be running my A2's for quite a while longer, unless difficulty shoots to the money and the price doesn't adjust.

It's those people out there that are running around .10 I think won't be running long.

I'm in the paid off boat for my A2's so the only thing affecting them now is power costs and maintenance (PSU Failures, already had 1)

I want 2-3 of these new L3's but not at the price being thrown around right now $2400 -- for that price I'd rather build another GPU Miner.

 $1600 or so direct from BitMain - plus shipping - if their CN order page starts working (they might have sold out or it might not be fully active yet).

 I am also paid off on my A2s - things were looking a bit iffy for a while right when Innosilicon announced the A4, but their delays and the "not shipping a ton of them" and the teething issues slowed down the hashrate growth enough to help a lot.

[QuintLeo]

The question is how many A2's are still out there and when the diff spikes, how much hash will be lost to those that are no longer profitable.

 I just ran the numbers - at the less than 5c/KWH rate for my area, diff has to almost TRIPLE before my A2 units hit breakeven.
 I might have to worry about that later this year, but I'm hoping to be in the even LESS expensive electric cost area one county over by then.

Adopt me! (I have 10c kwh (think it is a mistake it should be 11c kwh ...we will see) now winter rates and starting in 5 months 14c kwh may 15th 2017 summer rates)

 I can't, don't have space or any more power available, much less for YOUR farm (I've seen your numbers on litecoinpool).

 On the other hand all you have to do is move somewhere into my area (like I just moved last summer)....

[Searing]

The question is how many A2's are still out there and when the diff spikes, how much hash will be lost to those that are no longer profitable.

 I just ran the numbers - at the less than 5c/KWH rate for my area, diff has to almost TRIPLE before my A2 units hit breakeven.
 I might have to worry about that later this year, but I'm hoping to be in the even LESS expensive electric cost area one county over by then.

Adopt me! (I have 10c kwh (think it is a mistake it should be 11c kwh ...we will see) now winter rates and starting in 5 months 14c kwh may 15th 2017 summer rates)

 I can't, don't have space or any more power available, much less for YOUR farm (I've seen your numbers on litecoinpool).

 On the other hand all you have to do is move somewhere into my area (like I just moved last summer)....

Never mind. Need to check my megamillions lottery ticket from Saturday. I'm sure I'm set ok right?

Just to be sure I'm awaiting the call that Lucy Liu wants me to be her love puppet.

So I'm good. (Delusion is what gets me through or so my friends thought on New Years
when told btc was around 1000 usd and I have 100.07 btc. So they figure if that's true the above
Stuff in the post has to come true. (To say they are still skeptical of crypto is an understatement.)

Although I sense the beginnings of FOMO desperation that I hope is the masses
reconsidering. Then again if they suddenly turn reasonable there goes my Lucy Liu shot,
so I'm conflicted 😐



 

[Searing]

a post i did on another thread on how/why/when I might say get an L3 or other equipment
with the numbers on this thread and IRS 25% of equip purchased applied towards taxes due
it is tempting...but imho with all this stuff coming out it is gonna be a scrypt difficulty rout.

Anyway post below on my thoughts on this right now..ie probably I'm gonna wait till Oct
or such till I pull the trigger on anything in that I still have ROI Titans chugging away

I just think Bitmain is gonna slam scrypt with difficulty. With their BTC equip it always hits
their farms first then the world...this could get ugly.

anyway thread for more on what I'm thinking (not that I know zip)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1734098.msg17367965#msg17367965

[PanneKopp]

Hi @Searing,

thank you for the deep insight in actual scrypt mining (my zeus are on the graveyard).

If I do a quick math,
and divide the investment (price of miner)
through actual earnings at 10ct(US) Power,

I do not really see a chance 2 ever ROI.

[Searing]

Hi @Searing,

thank you for the deep insight in actual scrypt mining (my zeus are on the graveyard).

If I do a quick math,
and divide the investment (price of miner)
through actual earnings at 10ct(US) Power,

I do not really see a chance 2 ever ROI.

its the difficulty rise that has me concerned.......bitmain with its btc miners always fills farms up for themselves or others before shipping
if it is the same with the L3 it is the same.

All the bitcoin miners in china can do math and see that you'd make more with scrypt miners to btc then btc miners direct..(same bet I made in
2014 on the knc titan vs keeping the neptune btc miner)

Now they can get equip in mass A4's from Innsilicon and L3 bitmain miners at 250mh 400 watts.in mass

it looks a lot like 2014 then BTC difficulty went to the moon and blew out home btc miners imho

if you can heat your house like me with miners and get 25% equip depreciation first year as it exists now on taxes..and get some coin..you can probably
break even at worse (like me 1200 bucks saved last 3 years in heating house..gas bill down to 18 bucks a month for water)

angles like that ...also my elec is only 10-11c kwh is in winter is 14c kwh in summer

me I may buy equip for the tax advantages and heat again next winter angle..but that may be the last of my titans

also

if LTC would go back to 0.006 ltc to btc thats 6 buck LTC

it currently is around 0.00437 ltc to btc at 1017 btc prices

we get 0.008 ltc to btc or I hope 0.01 ltc to btc would be looking at 10 buck LTC now

but lots of other coins to speculate on now rather then LTC and/or push into BTC instead

interesting

but me I'm sitting on my hands...then again with 3150mh I can afford too...

no idea...but again looks too much like 2014 btc difficulty rocket climb imho ..so makes me 'twitchy'

[okg]

L3 is going to cost around 1700 dollar.