Did I lost btc>fiat when I tried to use ATM ?

[hodl3r]

Please anyone help ? Did I lose the coins ? https://blockchain.info/tx/22036c29d071ba63b01bdae7af2e8872799be882747ad5ebaac1785382f2ecf5

Wanted to btc>fiat - 140$ but transfer never confirmed. Owner of the btc atm is sure that my blockchain.info wallet is corrupted that's why I was not able to cash out ? Please help.

[AgentofCoin]

Please anyone help ? Did I lose the coins ? https://blockchain.info/tx/22036c29d071ba63b01bdae7af2e8872799be882747ad5ebaac1785382f2ecf5

Wanted to btc>fiat - 140$ but transfer never confirmed. Owner of the btc atm is sure that my blockchain.info wallet is corrupted that's why I was not able to cash out ? Please help.

The owner of the atm doublespent your coins, so you will not receive these coins.
It is not likely that your bitcoin address or wallet is corrupted.

The fact of the matter is that you did not receive them within your address provided
and they have be spent into someone's address other than yours, so the btc atm owner
needs to send the coin amount again or return your money.

[hodl3r]

That is what I was thinking because I have never had problems making payments to other addresses and the same machine took my coins earlier this morning aswell so that is why Im very sceptical here. The machine operator is sure that it is my fault and now my wallet does not show any transfers related to that ? What should I do next ? I know the company and I have the proof of transfer. People I know have lost money using the machines what belong to a same company before aswell. Any legal advice would be much appreciated. I am taking it personally because the company's guy talked to me like I was some kind of a noob and was suggesting me other wallets and shit.

[AgentofCoin]

That is what I was thinking because I have never had problems making payments to other addresses and the same machine took my coins earlier this morning aswell so that is why Im very sceptical here. The machine operator is sure that it is my fault and now my wallet does not show any transfers related to that ? What should I do next ? I know the company and I have the proof of transfer. People I know have lost money using the machines what belong to a same company before aswell. Any legal advice would be much appreciated. I am taking it personally because the company's guy talked to me like I was some kind of a noob and was suggesting me other wallets and shit.

No. If you have proof of payment, yet your address does not have the btc with confirmations,
then the seller must send again. It is very obvious. You either have the bitcoin within your address
(with confirmations) or you do not. Whether you do or do not will almost always be the senders fault.

To be most sure, create a new address and request that the atm operator send your btc to that address.

If the atm seller does not refund your money or send the requested btc in a reasonable amount of time,
you could post the information about the atm and the company here and create a scam accusation and
warn other users from continuing to use this btc atm company. if you create a scam accusation, please
provide all relevant information and proofs (while censoring any potential personal identification).

The operator clearly doublespent the btc. It could either be an accident or on purpose.
The operator must send the btc very soon or else it is a scam and you should write it up.

It is very not likely to be a wallet or address issue.


No, after rereading your OP, you doublespent your coins to the atm.
You are in the wrong here.

If you are converting btc to fiat, then you spent the same inputs within seconds of the tx to the atm.
The ATM owes you no money since they did not receive your coins.

Blockchain.info does allow spending of inputs that are currently used and waiting for a confirmation.

[Soros Shorts]

If the atm seller does not refund your money or send the requested btc in a reasonable amount of time ...

They way I read it you got it backwards.

Wanted to btc>fiat - 140$ but transfer never confirmed

It looks like the OP tried to send BTC to the ATM to get cash.

[AgentofCoin]

If the atm seller does not refund your money or send the requested btc in a reasonable amount of time ...

They way I read it you got it backwards.

Wanted to btc>fiat - 140$ but transfer never confirmed

It looks like the OP tried to send BTC to the ATM to get cash.

You are correct. I just noticed as you wrote your post.
I have revised my prior post.

[hodl3r]

I used the same atm earlier that day btc>fiat. After payment got a message that machine is out of money and didnt received any receipt or nothing and the mobile number of the machine operator was offline. So then I started to be very suspicious and had to prove to the machine operator that yes I indeed sent the coins what is absolutely ridiculous but finally got them back. But now it looks like an obv scam because the company's guy started being defensive and all.

[AgentofCoin]

I used the same atm earlier that day btc>fiat. After payment got a message that machine is out of money and didnt received any receipt or nothing and the mobile number of the machine operator was offline. So then I started to be very suspicious and had to prove to the machine operator that yes I indeed sent the coins what is absolutely ridiculous but finally got them back. But now it looks like an obv scam because the company's guy started being defensive and all.

The atm operator was likely defensive since you were accusing him of having your coins,
when he did not. If you received all your coins back then there is no longer an issue.

Be aware that with blockchain.info wallet, a user can perform doublespends by accident,
so if you use that wallet as your primary transaction wallet, it would smart to wait for a tx that
you send, to have a single confirm before you decide to send another separate tx. If you do not,
there is a good chance you could perform a doublespend.

The issue and confusion between you and the atm operator is due to the wallet you used.
Other wallets, that I would assume the operator suggested, prevents doublespent inputs.

To prevent future issues, use a different wallet or be more aware with the blockchain.info
when sending back to back txs.

[hodl3r]

The thing is that its been 12 hours past the transaction now and my wallet not showing any history about the transaction and my coins are still gone (i only received back the ones i tried to sell earlier that day) but when you look at the transaction link then you can see that the coins have gone somewhere. What is very suspicious the fact that the machine never give's out any paper receipt after the transaction. What to do next ? Do you think that blockchain.info turned scammer and we are going to see another "hack" soon ? We can't forget about all the error with them. Luckily i no longer keep my wealth with them because they have proven to be unreliable. Ive had too many sleepless nights with blockchain.info

[hodl3r]

So now theres a text: Transaction rejected by our node. Reason: Transaction was previously accepted but has been pruned from our database.
But transaction history still not showing in the wallet and coins are still gone ? What would you make of that ?

[AgentofCoin]

So now theres a text: Transaction rejected by our node. Reason: Transaction was previously accepted but has been pruned from our database.
But transaction history still not showing in the wallet and coins are still gone ? What would you make of that ?

The other transaction was accepted into a block and so your
doublespent tx is now dropped from the blockchain.info node.

Your transaction history will not show the btc returned, since you
then spend those coins in your next transaction.


If you look at your address on a blockexplorer,
you will see that you spent your coins, after you
caused an unintentional doublespend.

[hodl3r]

No I sent the coins to the machine and the machine never confirmed the transaction. My wallet lost the value of the amount what I sent to the machine. Machine operator told me that my wallet is faulty but I never had problems with any other transaction than with this specific ATM. What should I do now ? How can I get my coins back ? Just trying to figure out here who is scamming me either blockchain.info / ATM provider ?

[AgentofCoin]

No I sent the coins to the machine and the machine never confirmed the transaction. My wallet lost the value of the amount what I sent to the machine. Machine operator told me that my wallet is faulty but I never had problems with any other transaction than with this specific ATM. What should I do now ? How can I get my coins back ? Just trying to figure out here who is scamming me either blockchain.info / ATM provider ?

I explained this previously.

If you provide the address that you used to send to the atm, I can explain this easier.


In simple terms: you doublespent your coins.
Your coins will never return, because you used them in another transaction.
If you look at your address history, you will see that.

[Xester]

Not necessarily that you lost your bitcoin. Try using blockcypher instead of blockchain.info then you will really see if the transaction is successful or not. But also double check you balance if your btc was already deducted. If the transaction is confirmed and you have already been deducted then probably it was sent already on the atm. Then double check your atm if the bitcoin was there if it isnt then possibly you lost your bitcoins.

[ralle14]

Not necessarily that you lost your bitcoin. Try using blockcypher instead of blockchain.info then you will really see if the transaction is successful or not. But also double check you balance if your btc was already deducted. If the transaction is confirmed and you have already been deducted then probably it was sent already on the atm. Then double check your atm if the bitcoin was there if it isnt then possibly you lost your bitcoins.

It's already double spent like what agent said the txid that OP shared was rejected because the other one was confirmed. When you check on different block explorers you can't see the tx anymore if you go try and search for it, so you can't rebroadcast that.