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[JackpotRacer]

JPR, we've been polite to you (or at least the best we can manage to do) all the way through.

We even spent numerous development hours on working on something you requested several times (buckets) that went unappreciated by you.

You have broken pretty much every rule that we have implemented and even though we have had countless requests to ban you from fellow customers, investors, and app owners, we did not do so.

We did not kick you out or force you out. We are starting to make decisions for what we feel is best for Moneypot in the long term.

I'm sorry your app did not work out for you, and I wish you good luck in the future for whatever it becomes.  

Dogedigital, it looks you are living in a world of make-believe or you are trying to insult my intellect. or Ryan Havar was correct when he said you are behaving like a clown

You are sorry our app didnt work out for us

we were very proud that our app was the 3rd most visited app on MP with 1000+ apps!!!!!! and you killed it!!!!! be proud!!!

1st was Exo
2nd BB
3rd JPR
and then nothing

after you killed our very popular app the ranking is now

1st Exo
2nd BB
3rd till 1000 rank nothing

App owners wanted us to be thrown out  why didnt they come out and did it behind our back? because they have balls like ants? I could name some of them  they dont earn even one satoshi and didnt like to see that we have 24/7 many users online and they had 1-2 (incl then as owner). we were not stingy to give nice promos but they were and they still are

Investors didnt like our app sure not because they didnt earn till today any satoshi but not because of our app but this subject I will discuss in another thread cause you will delete my postings anyway cause the truth hurts and you could lose more investors (not many left anyaway). do you really care about your investors or you care how much you earn with 1000+ apps and your own apps?

you did the buckets for us  come on get real! the bucket was an invention by dexon and imo a stupid invention. I dont see many using it. our suggestion was a total diffreent one and would have been much better but you guys dont care about other apps but you care about your own apps and you own to many already to give other app owners a fair play.

lets take your roulette game as an example. roulette is plaid by roulette lovers all over the world with 2.7% or 5.4% HE and all roulette players are not looking for less HE cause they are used to it and love the game. but MP owners offering a roulette game with less than even 0.5% (not long ago changed to a bit more). why that? why would you try to fight the other roulette app owners on MP and try to attract the players with a much lower HE?

MP owners shouldnt own even one app! could you please tell us app owners and investors how many apps MP owns or partnered up as of today? lets see if you will be transparent as you should be as MP owners?

I have many more questions for you and as I know you will not answer and even delete this posting I will as soon I will have the time open a new thread and ask all the questions as an investor and lets see if investors will want also the answer to those questions and if not they earn to lose their coins here.

one of the most important questions is why didnt you publish with how much NotTardy came to the table? how much did he deposit before he visited our Lottery? 100 BTC? 50 BTC? 10BTC? my guess is between 1 and 2 BTC because if he would deposit 10 50 or more he would go to Bubbles first and try his luck there. but he came first to the lottery and this tells me that he didnt deposit more than 1-2 BTC and if I am wrong I will admit that I have no clue and know  nothing about casinos and gambling.

Tell Us!

more to come

JPR

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[B_UN1T]

Good luck guys.

Was Already Ask this question a few times now. Can the request wager amount old Or new wager?

[B_UN1T]

It's the wagering amount of time of the bet won.  So if I won (I won't, just using this as an example), I'd go to moneypot.com/users/dogedigital and see that I've wagered approximately 45 Bitcoin... So I'd hypothetically win 200,000 Bits.

Sorry i need to ask again. But your explain mean old wager is Count.

Lets say user bun1t Or bun2t will hit the roll 1btc?

Or better to say am i eligible alreay cause you i do more than 500

[superbit]

very nice promo but no fun for our players and us if they cant see the all bets tab live running (socketpot down). and we cant add our promo for this event

please let me repeat my questions cause I didnt get an answer (only from head dev that it was up for a short time and down again)

any ETA for

when socketpot will back?

when will be the list of investors who will be credited according DD statement be published?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1737934.msg17719554#msg17719554

when will RBIES be implemented?

just for info I am asking as app owner and investor and RBIES owner

JPR, we have answered these questions multiple, multiple times. That is why we are not answering them again. When we have more information to give, we will post it.

The only question I will answer is regarding Socketpot, and the reason for the downtime is that it has been under attack by DDoS.

if you delete my postings you shouldnt quote them

Acoin aka.....aka........aka.... you shouldnt treat App owners( I am an app  owner) and Investors (I am an Investor) like shit and be so impolite as your last answer. it will not do good for your Bank Roll right now ~481 BTC (maybe you dont care a lot anyway)
oh and the Investor Profit is right now at ~ minus 7.657 BTC

you (Owners) didnt answer the question multiple times.  you answered always with a stupid and simple soon and thats not enough and you did it again and again for a few month. same with RBIES! how many month are you claiming "soon"? or v2 already more than a year now

to delete all my serious questions will not help cause I will open a new thread and ask all my questions again and even some more and nothing will change for you as you will need to answer those questions. I am sure many more will have same questions

sure you can close our App but you anyway killed it already and I will give you guys the answer in my new thread why you did it.

oh and anyway we are selling -clap clap on your shoulder guys- as you finally succeeded in killing our app but I promise you that we will come back and still be here even MP is long gone or sold again.

the link to our sale thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1810531.msg18035587#msg18035587

And expect that bankroll to keep dropping as better options keep coming available.

[JackpotRacer]

I'm not going to start fights with you like you always try to start.  If you continue to post garbage, I will just delete it.

We have tried to assist you time after time even after you have constantly attacked us.  We do not owe you anything.

If you want to leave, that's your wish.  Please move on and we wish you luck.

you call this garbage? because the questions are not that comfortable for you guys?

all those questions are legit for any MP investor including me

you owe me as an investor and to all investors the answer to my question and what you MP promised

when will be the list of investors who will be credited according DD statement be published?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1737934.msg17719554#msg17719554

and you still owe us the answer how much did NotTardy deposit when he started and came to our Lottery?
and not answering this simple and legit question will leave a bad smell in the air

I hope you remember what you asked me when Nottardy hit on Lottery and Bubbles? you Dogedigital asked me to wait and not to withdraw immediately! I said no problem we will invest it in the meantime and that is what we did! would you please confirm this? or do you call this garbage? and this brings me again to my question as an investor
when will be the list of investors who will be credited and the amount according DD statement be published?

now you can delete this garbage as you are calling it or you can start to get back on the floor and behave like a business man and answer all the legit questions

[JackpotRacer]

It's because we've answered all this before and yet you keep asking.

We are taking care of it when we can but have no hard date set. If you remember, we have answered several times it will be over the course of this year. When we have it, it will be available on eligible user's profile pages.

We don't publish deposit/withdrawal information as it is not public information, but one can easily deduce that they did not start by depositing a large amount of bitcoin in the first place.

You're entitled to having reasonable questions answered, but you do not need to post with malice intent and constantly set out to attack us.  

You also need to very much stop insinuating that we are out to get you.  The attacks and these claims are why we are deleting your posts.  That's the garbage we are referring to.

If you treat us with respect, we will treat you with the same.

I am asking again and again cause you didnt answer my questions yet. you said you will pay the investors during the year to come from your earnings (what if no earnings?) but you didnt tell us investors who is eligible for what amount. you need to stop the garbage and not me cause you need to be more transparent

will you please confirm that you asked me not to withdraw immediately the coins after NotTardy hit on Lottery and on Bubbles? I said no problem and we will invest it and not withdraw. Please confirm! or show me the answer if you did answer it already.

we have the right to ask and you are obliged to answer to be transparent towards your investors and customers if you have nothing to hide.

I will not give up to get those answers for my legit questions.

How many apps does MP owners own right now? did you answer this question? No

how much did NotTardy deposit before hitting our JP? did you answer this question? No

you need to respect investors and app owners in first place

[Dogedigital]

Moneypot does own apps.  We never hid this and we never made business decisions based strictly off of them. 

I asked if you would consider it, which you did, but it was never a requirement.  The investment total was dropping off rapidly.  You could have, and did, withdraw coins at any moment.

Stop trying to start fights.  I'm not going to do this dance with you.

[JackpotRacer]

Moneypot does own apps.  We never hid this and we never made business decisions based strictly off of them. 

I asked if you would consider it, which you did, but it was never a requirement.  The investment total was dropping off rapidly.  You could have, and did, withdraw coins at any moment.

Stop trying to start fights.  I'm not going to do this dance with you.

are you saying asking legit questions is starting a fight? I am not dancing but defending and will not be afraid to do it

you just avoid to answer my questions and this doesnt look good for you

you didnt ask me to consider it but you asked in a polite way to not withdraw immediately and I never said that you tried to force me or it was a requirement as you call it. please dont try to twist our conversation. I am already glad that you finally answered this question and confirmed that you were asking me to delay the withdrawal. but why do I need to ask more than once till you answer?

you know exactly how much we withdraw and when and we had a nice loss also. I can post a screenshot of our investment history if needed cause we dont have to hide anything here.

this gives me the legitimacy to ask the question when we investors will be informed with all details

just a reminder you still didnt answer the other questions

[J_ROC]

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[ralle14]

Anyone know what happened to the moneypot app bubblesbit? My browser isn't letting me go through the site because it says my connection isn't private. You guys experience the same thing as me?

It seems just a SSL error ...
You can contact the owner (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=355846) and I'm sure they will fix it.

Already pmd yahoo about this thanks 

[superiorus]

Anyone know what happened to the moneypot app bubblesbit? My browser isn't letting me go through the site because it says my connection isn't private. You guys experience the same thing as me?

It seems just a SSL error ...
You can contact the owner (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=355846) and I'm sure they will fix it.

[Pseudo-Random]

Hey there,

Well it seems MP's BitcoinD/whatever depositor & withdrawal system got majorly code-farted by either a Cloudbleed side effect, or from the constant slow-bets DDoS issues this weekend, or something else - because multiple players are reporting confirmed deposits not debiting to their MP wallet ; while this pure gem of a giant withdrawal monstrosity somehow got created ->

Not 2, 3 or 6 but 42 small inputs, turning a TXiD into 28 times the normal size ; thus leaving even such an expensive .001BTC fee with nevertheless no chance at all of getting this 6200 byte monster included in a block before 2018 ; Since unfortunately the mempool has been clogged on a permanent basis for several weeks - and at ~15.6 satoshi per byte, that's 5-13 times too little to get a confirmation in at least ~30-48hrs (~1-2 dozen block delays later on average)

So is it possible any of the 42 input addresses^ in this mistake would be able to perform CPFP or RBF (debit more fees from my account, np), or, if not, when this thing gets dropped from mempool and returned to all those little MP multi-wallet addresses, can this amount be credited to my account? Thanks

[CrazyCraig]

Hey there,

Well it seems MP's BitcoinD/whatever depositor & withdrawal system got majorly code-farted by either a Cloudbleed side effect, or from the constant slow-bets DDoS issues this weekend, or something else - because multiple players are reporting confirmed deposits not debiting to their MP wallet ; while this pure gem of a giant withdrawal monstrosity somehow got created ->

Not 2, 3 or 6 but 42 small inputs, turning a TXiD into 28 times the normal size ; thus leaving even such an expensive .001BTC fee with nevertheless no chance at all of getting this 6200 byte monster included in a block before 2018 ; Since unfortunately the mempool has been clogged on a permanent basis for several weeks - and at ~15.6 satoshi per byte, that's 5-13 times too little to get a confirmation in at least ~30-48hrs (~1-2 dozen block delays later on average)

So is it possible any of the 42 input addresses^ in this mistake would be able to perform CPFP or RBF (debit more fees from my account, np), or, if not, when this thing gets dropped from mempool and returned to all those little MP multi-wallet addresses, can this amount be credited to my account? Thanks

From a technical standpoint, you are correct. Earlier this evening we were subjected to a possible wallet based attack where we received thousands of micro transactions. Because of this we had to cap the fees and implement other features to resolve the matter.

We are still addressing the issue. If any transfer fails we will investigate the matter and credit your account.

[NLNico]

TBH that sounds like a strange solution (although I can imagine dealing with such attack is annoying.)

But if it's still feasible to use those inputs (related to fee it costs to have 1 more input), you could just use the normal fees? Assuming those micro-transactions didn't get credited to any account.

Then again, if it is an attack to track your site or to break privacy of your players (not sure?), then it might be best to manually disable withdrawals first and make 1 huge TX (with big fee) moving all of those inputs to 1 address? (or even just donate to miners :X)

[CrazyCraig]

TBH that sounds like a strange solution (although I can imagine dealing with such attack is annoying.)

But if it's still feasible to use those inputs (related to fee it costs to have 1 more input), you could just use the normal fees? Assuming those micro-transactions didn't get credited to any account.

Then again, if it is an attack to track your site or to break privacy of your players (not sure?), then it might be best to manually disable withdrawals first and make 1 huge TX (with big fee) moving all of those inputs to 1 address?

I want to state that have not been breached.

Defaulting to the maximum fee will result in transactions encompassing huge fees such as .1 btc. We are still working a solution.

[RHavar]

From a technical standpoint, you are correct. Earlier this evening we were subjected to a wallet based attack where the attacker had sent thounsands of micro transactions. Because of this we had to cap the fees and implement other features to resolve the matter.

Capping withdrawal fees doesn't help the problem, it'll just impact your customers withdrawals. The easiest fix is just run `bitcoin-cli lockunspent`on the outputs, so you don't waste money spending them for the time being. Or you can patch your bitcoin with this: https://github.com/RHavar/bitcoin/commit/5ef4bdb3cb1f23bea9ff7bcaa5f7acf5b0344f36

And it'll stop spending those tiny transactions. Then during saturdays there tends to be almost no fee pressure, so you can can create a big transaction at a fee rate of 10sat/byte the cleans it up.

[RHavar]

But if it's still feasible to use those inputs (related to fee it costs to have 1 more input), you could just use the normal fees? Assuming those micro-transactions didn't get credited to any account.

All of those transactions seem standard, which means that the cost of spending them can be < 30% of the amount. So if they're not being credited to an account, then it's just free money. If they're being credited to account(s) it's annoying because there's no deposit fee but each of the deposits has a cost associated with it.

Looking at the outputs that  Pseudo-Random posted, they seems to just be faucet payouts from MoonBit.co.in

[CrazyCraig]

From a technical standpoint, you are correct. Earlier this evening we were subjected to a wallet based attack where the attacker had sent thounsands of micro transactions. Because of this we had to cap the fees and implement other features to resolve the matter.

Capping withdrawal fees doesn't help the problem, it'll just impact your customers withdrawals. The easiest fix is just run `bitcoin-cli lockunspent`on the outputs, so you don't waste money spending them for the time being. Or you can patch your bitcoin with this: https://github.com/RHavar/bitcoin/commit/5ef4bdb3cb1f23bea9ff7bcaa5f7acf5b0344f36

And it'll stop spending those tiny transactions. Then during saturdays there tends to be almost no fee pressure, so you can can create a big transaction at a fee rate of 10sat/byte the cleans it up.

Thanks for the help Ryan. We will look into your suggestions further.

It is annoying correct, for the time being we capped fees as it was generating large unnecessary fees.

[Quickseller]

It looks like some of the inputs from the transaction posted above have only one transaction ever sent to it. Did the attacker have you generate a bunch of deposit addresses and then deposit very small amounts to each of them? Or how did the attacker get so many of your addresses?

If it is fairly clear that a single customer was behind the attack, and his account was not credited anything from the spam deposits, then I would suggest that you simply make a large transaction with a market fee (according to https://bitcoinfees.21.co/ or some other site), and use the money as you wish.

If however the spam deposits went to addresses that appear to be associated with random accounts, then I would do something to make bitcoind ignore these inputs, as they were very likely intended to break your customer's privacy. If they were guessing that 100 addresses belong to MP, knew with certainty that 25 of the addresses belonged to MP, then if you sign a transaction with a private key to an address that the attacker both knew belonged to MP, and that he guessed to belong to MP, then the attacker will be able to use blockchain analysis to discover more of your addresses and will know when some of your customers have deposited into MP, a fact that some customers may have wanted to keep secret.

[NLNico]

.. for the time being we capped fees as it was generating large unnecessary fees.

I don't really understand this. The fees are based on (kilo)bytes and bitcoind should be able to calculate this properly. Therefor it would be large necessary fees Right now it seems players make withdrawals that will never be confirmed. That is only annoying for your real players and also for you, as you will have to manually verify/credit them again after 72h.

If the micro deposits didn't get credited and the inputs are feasible to spend (which it indeed is), you would not lose money even if you have large fees? Again, might be better to make 1 big transaction. Or like RHavar said, lock those outputs and make 1 big transaction when mempool is low.



Either way, temporarily stopping withdrawals and fixing the problem (by locking inputs either by that code commit or manually) seems better than sending withdrawals with way too low fee IMO