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January 03, 2017, 09:40:37 PM
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I've stumbled upon this article while scrolling through facebook and it got me rather interested.

As you can see, Mein Kampf has been reprinted and republished in Germany, 85.000 copies sold and it became the best seller.

"A year after Germany allowed the reprinting of Adolf Hitler 's hate-filled autobiography Mein Kampf it remains a bestseller. "

"Wirsching said many who bought the new version turned out to be readers interested in politics and history, not "old reactionaries or right-wing radicals"

Will something come out of this, something much bigger after the republication or it is just the for legacy that book holds?


Link to the article: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/adolf-hitlers-mein-kampf-becomes-9556440

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January 03, 2017, 10:39:21 PM
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Ahah that's a funny news you got here!  Grin

Well first we have to put this figures in context. 85k sells in a year isn't that much, especially in the first year of release and for a very well known book.
It makes something like... 0.1% of German population if I'm correct? That's not much ^^

But even without taking the context, I'd say that reading Mein Kampf says nothing about you, apart that you're either very brave or have dubious taste in literature (cause the guys was an incredible politician but a poor writer). I read a part of Mein Kampf years ago and it's easy to find it on the web. It was not because of my political inclination (which is clearly far left) but out of curiosity.

It's just that... You got to be a very special kind of stupid to find this book interesting or agree with it. It's incredibly repetitive, poorly written and without any logic. Really not a good book, even without considering the purpose of the work!

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January 03, 2017, 10:50:33 PM
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Interesting, I wonder how many of the buyers are reading the book to reinforce their own ideologies, and how many are reading it as a historical lesson, perhaps to learn from the mistakes of the past...

The fact that a version is being printed by a "right wing publisher", without the textual notes, possibly to normalize its arguments rather than to show the flaws in them, is also quite interesting (if a little scary)

It's worth mentioning that The Mirror is not a very reputable source, they are a tabloid newspaper that have certain ideas that they like to push upon the general population, to appeal to readers of a certain disposition. Not that I don't believe the facts in the story, just worth mentioning that many UK newspapers have a strong bias towards certain political ideologies.
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January 03, 2017, 11:02:19 PM
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Interesting, I wonder how many of the buyers are reading the book to reinforce their own ideologies, and how many are reading it as a historical lesson, perhaps to learn from the mistakes of the past...

I'm afraid it's not really a useful source of historical lesson...
It's a bit like the "Guerre des Gaules" (War of Galia in English I guess?) written by Julius Cesar. It's just a propaganda book. The worst part is that contrary to Cesar, Hitler is a horrible writer and puts little to no historical facts.

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The fact that a version is being printed by a "right wing publisher", without the textual notes, possibly to normalize its arguments rather than to show the flaws in them, is also quite interesting (if a little scary)

Oh! I didn't see this part!
Well... It's not a good thing of course. The good news is that you have to be actually completely retarded and already a fanatic to believe anything in this book.
You don't need textual notes to detect the flaws in his reasoning if you have a brain.

I'm not saying this as an insult, it's just that what he says IS actually stupid ^^'

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It's worth mentioning that The Mirror is not a very reputable source, they are a tabloid newspaper that have certain ideas that they like to push upon the general population, to appeal to readers of a certain disposition. Not that I don't believe the facts in the story, just worth mentioning that many UK newspapers have a strong bias towards certain political ideologies.

I'm afraid that's perfectly true for... Every newspapers not only UK ones :/
That's the problem of private media owned by large multinationals.

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January 03, 2017, 11:17:00 PM
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Ahah that's a funny news you got here!  Grin

Well first we have to put this figures in context. 85k sells in a year isn't that much, especially in the first year of release and for a very well known book.
It makes something like... 0.1% of German population if I'm correct? That's not much ^^

But even without taking the context, I'd say that reading Mein Kampf says nothing about you, apart that you're either very brave or have dubious taste in literature (cause the guys was an incredible politician but a poor writer). I read a part of Mein Kampf years ago and it's easy to find it on the web. It was not because of my political inclination (which is clearly far left) but out of curiosity.

It's just that... You got to be a very special kind of stupid to find this book interesting or agree with it. It's incredibly repetitive, poorly written and without any logic. Really not a good book, even without considering the purpose of the work!
85 000 books in a year is a lot ;in this days where people prefer buying virtual items (ebook, mp3...)
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Interesting, I wonder how many of the buyers are reading the book to reinforce their own ideologies, and how many are reading it as a historical lesson, perhaps to learn from the mistakes of the past...

I'm afraid it's not really a useful source of historical lesson...
It's a bit like the "Guerre des Gaules" (War of Galia in English I guess?) written by Julius Cesar. It's just a propaganda book. The worst part is that contrary to Cesar, Hitler is a horrible writer and puts little to no historical facts.

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The fact that a version is being printed by a "right wing publisher", without the textual notes, possibly to normalize its arguments rather than to show the flaws in them, is also quite interesting (if a little scary)

Oh! I didn't see this part!
Well... It's not a good thing of course. The good news is that you have to be actually completely retarded and already a fanatic to believe anything in this book.
You don't need textual notes to detect the flaws in his reasoning if you have a brain.


I'm not saying this as an insult, it's just that what he says IS actually stupid ^^'
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I agree with you, but regarding the bolded part, this quote by the legendary comedian George Carlin is relevant:

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January 03, 2017, 11:25:09 PM
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I've stumbled upon this article while scrolling through facebook and it got me rather interested.

As you can see, Mein Kampf has been reprinted and republished in Germany, 85.000 copies sold and it became the best seller.

Will something come out of this, something much bigger after the republication or it is just the for legacy that book holds?

The scariest thing about this post or news is that you got it from Facebook. And likely from someone trying to scare the world over a news report that isn't all that scary. 85,000 books is a lot, but that perception changes when you consider who may have been buying the books or how this figure compares to the population of Germany.

If this is the first reprinting of the book in a long time, it's possible that every library or museum or University has purchased a copy or two for their collection.

The population of Germany in 2016 was 80.6 Million, so 85,000 represents just less than 1% of the population (if the books were sold to individuals only). 1% isn't an indication of a movement, it's a rounding error.

Last, as people who lived through Hitler's reign in Germany and Europe may tell you - if we don't learn from history, we're bound to repeat it. Hitler's ideology should not be forgotten, because if it si we may all succumb to its tyranny again.
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Aha, I was waiting for Bitcointalk's resident Buddhist to show his face! How's life up there in your state of nirvana?

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Aha, I was waiting for Bitcointalk's resident Buddhist to show his face! How's life up there in your state of nirvana?

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What's funny here is that I bet he never read Mein Kampf. I mean you can't possibly read that and think "yeah it makes sense".

But well we're talking about someone having a swastika as an avatar... And I guess it's not for the buddhist meaning ^^

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I am sure that most of these copies were purchased by the non-whites. Mein Kampf remains extremely popular in some of the Asian countries, such as India and Mongolia. There is even a restaurant in India, which is dedicated to Hitler.


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January 04, 2017, 10:19:28 AM
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Citizens of Germany re disillusioned with Merkel Government thats why i hope facism doesn't rise again.
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January 04, 2017, 04:34:42 PM
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I think people purchase this mainly because it was written by adolf hitler himself. Interests in the book most likely would be due to curiosity. I myself would like to have a copy and read through it but not because I agree with hitler or to look for something to agree on with the book, but simply to know about it's contents.

 
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January 04, 2017, 05:06:09 PM
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I think people purchase this mainly because it was written by adolf hitler himself. Interests in the book most likely would be due to curiosity. I myself would like to have a copy and read through it but not because I agree with hitler or to look for something to agree on with the book, but simply to know about it's contents.
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January 04, 2017, 06:43:12 PM
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I've stumbled upon this article while scrolling through facebook and it got me rather interested.

As you can see, Mein Kampf has been reprinted and republished in Germany, 85.000 copies sold and it became the best seller.

Will something come out of this, something much bigger after the republication or it is just the for legacy that book holds?

The scariest thing about this post or news is that you got it from Facebook. And likely from someone trying to scare the world over a news report that isn't all that scary. 85,000 books is a lot, but that perception changes when you consider who may have been buying the books or how this figure compares to the population of Germany.

If this is the first reprinting of the book in a long time, it's possible that every library or museum or University has purchased a copy or two for their collection.

The population of Germany in 2016 was 80.6 Million, so 85,000 represents just less than 1% of the population (if the books were sold to individuals only). 1% isn't an indication of a movement, it's a rounding error.

Last, as people who lived through Hitler's reign in Germany and Europe may tell you - if we don't learn from history, we're bound to repeat it. Hitler's ideology should not be forgotten, because if it si we may all succumb to its tyranny again.

Well it was out like a suggested article for me, there are a lot more news portals on the internet that wrote on the same topic. Well as you can see, people are doing everything but learning from the past.

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January 04, 2017, 06:45:03 PM
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Aha, I was waiting for Bitcointalk's resident Buddhist to show his face! How's life up there in your state of nirvana?

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What's funny here is that I bet he never read Mein Kampf. I mean you can't possibly read that and think "yeah it makes sense".

But well we're talking about someone having a swastika as an avatar... And I guess it's not for the buddhist meaning ^^

While a little off topic, doesn't this quote make you think of something? Cheesy

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January 04, 2017, 06:49:04 PM
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I think people purchase this mainly because it was written by adolf hitler himself. Interests in the book most likely would be due to curiosity. I myself would like to have a copy and read through it but not because I agree with hitler or to look for something to agree on with the book, but simply to know about it's contents.

Those were my thoughts too, since it's been a year now since the book got republished. and this is, as much as I've understood, a special edition (whatever that meant). I'm not for the rise of nazism in todays countries but I am for something to be done, because now countries are losing their identity.

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January 04, 2017, 07:58:30 PM
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I think people purchase this mainly because it was written by adolf hitler himself. Interests in the book most likely would be due to curiosity. I myself would like to have a copy and read through it but not because I agree with hitler or to look for something to agree on with the book, but simply to know about it's contents.

Those were my thoughts too, since it's been a year now since the book got republished. and this is, as much as I've understood, a special edition (whatever that meant). I'm not for the rise of nazism in todays countries but I am for something to be done, because now countries are losing their identity.
Your thoughts just the contrary. No identity is lost. Just so in the minds of people laid the ideology of fascism. I am sure that you can not explain how it lost identity! Exactly what happens hidden propaganda of fascism!!!
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January 04, 2017, 09:40:51 PM
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truth to be told i'm am one of the buyers  Smiley

The new release ("special edition") in book form has a scientific and educational reason. The book includes a lot of additional comments and information.
No uprising and a 4th Reich... yet.


But no need for much conspiracy when people already think that the EU is the new evil german plan for a 4th 1000 year old kingdom  Grin


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here is the amazon link - feel free to support the german economy:

https://www.amazon.de/Hitler-Mein-Kampf-Eine-kritische/dp/3981405234

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January 04, 2017, 10:27:44 PM
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As said above, it surely doesn't have anything to do with 'radicals'

95% of people reading this book are reading it because it's a historic piece, not to strengthen their ideology

I myself have downloaded an e-book a couple of days ago to read while traveling, I only read 30 pages so far though, he's just starting to talk about Jews  Cheesy

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