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February 03, 2017, 12:53:47 AM
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We can see now that trumps victory was not a cheat.He was ellected by people to save the americans job which he promised.As no american likes muslim and as wanted to pull them away from country which trump promised and he did so was the reason for his victory.

Trump promised a lot of things so what? To build a wall to expel from the country migrants is more he can do, but how it will enable the Americans to get new jobs? He's lying. Not all of it is understood.

It's okay if you don't understand it all.

As for the jobs, we've already seen him cause IIRC a couple hundred thousand jobs to stay in the US instead of move to other countries.  One deal at a time.

For corporate tax reduction (35% to 15%).

And guess whos gonna pay that: the american tax payer Smiley....

That's wrong.  Corporate taxes are ALWAYS passed on to the consumer base in the form of higher prices for goods.  Lower corporate taxes directly means lower prices on consumer goods, which means higher consumption, more manufacturing, etc.

Economics isn't always intuitive, I guess.

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February 03, 2017, 01:46:04 AM
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That's wrong.  Corporate taxes are ALWAYS passed on to the consumer base in the form of higher prices for goods.  Lower corporate taxes directly means lower prices on consumer goods, which means higher consumption, more manufacturing, etc.

Economics isn't always intuitive, I guess.

In addition to that it means more jobs to the legal residents of the United States. Attracted by the lower corporate tax, more and more manufacturing units will move to the US. This means more jobs + more tax revenues for the treasury.

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February 03, 2017, 04:19:19 AM
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We can see now that trumps victory was not a cheat.He was ellected by people to save the americans job which he promised.As no american likes muslim and as wanted to pull them away from country which trump promised and he did so was the reason for his victory.

Trump promised a lot of things so what? To build a wall to expel from the country migrants is more he can do, but how it will enable the Americans to get new jobs? He's lying. Not all of it is understood.

It's okay if you don't understand it all.

As for the jobs, we've already seen him cause IIRC a couple hundred thousand jobs to stay in the US instead of move to other countries.  One deal at a time.

For corporate tax reduction (35% to 15%).

And guess whos gonna pay that: the american tax payer Smiley....

That's wrong.  Corporate taxes are ALWAYS passed on to the consumer base in the form of higher prices for goods.  Lower corporate taxes directly means lower prices on consumer goods, which means higher consumption, more manufacturing, etc.

Economics isn't always intuitive, I guess.



I guess it wasnt obvious but i was talking about the financing of the tax reduction.

The annual corporate tax revenue of the US is around 400 billion $.
A reduction from 35 to 10% would mean an average tax revenue loss of 280 billion $.

You dont actually believe everyone will start to sell 3x more (or buy 3x times more) stuff or?

Economics is not that simple like donalds wants it to be - atleast if you dont have a billionaire daddy.

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February 03, 2017, 04:23:51 AM
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That's wrong.  Corporate taxes are ALWAYS passed on to the consumer base in the form of higher prices for goods.  Lower corporate taxes directly means lower prices on consumer goods, which means higher consumption, more manufacturing, etc.

Economics isn't always intuitive, I guess.

In addition to that it means more jobs to the legal residents of the United States. Attracted by the lower corporate tax, more and more manufacturing units will move to the US. This means more jobs + more tax revenues for the treasury.


No. The US has a minimum wage of 10+$, social securities and enviroment protection laws.
Lowering corporate tax wont make them competitive with mexico, india, china and other emerging countries.

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February 03, 2017, 11:11:13 AM
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That's wrong.  Corporate taxes are ALWAYS passed on to the consumer base in the form of higher prices for goods.  Lower corporate taxes directly means lower prices on consumer goods, which means higher consumption, more manufacturing, etc.

Economics isn't always intuitive, I guess.

In addition to that it means more jobs to the legal residents of the United States. Attracted by the lower corporate tax, more and more manufacturing units will move to the US. This means more jobs + more tax revenues for the treasury.
Where will more jobs for Americans? They will go to work on those places that take Mexican? Or agree to work for a salary? The Americans will face collapse. Trump is a foolish and dangerous idiot!
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February 03, 2017, 12:16:29 PM
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That's wrong.  Corporate taxes are ALWAYS passed on to the consumer base in the form of higher prices for goods.  Lower corporate taxes directly means lower prices on consumer goods, which means higher consumption, more manufacturing, etc.

Economics isn't always intuitive, I guess.

In addition to that it means more jobs to the legal residents of the United States. Attracted by the lower corporate tax, more and more manufacturing units will move to the US. This means more jobs + more tax revenues for the treasury.


No. The US has a minimum wage of 10+$, social securities and enviroment protection laws.
Lowering corporate tax wont make them competitive with mexico, india, china and other emerging countries.
Of course it is only one factor.   Depends on the nature of the goods, too.  In certain cases high freight costs  are a factor.
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February 03, 2017, 12:26:47 PM
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That's wrong.  Corporate taxes are ALWAYS passed on to the consumer base in the form of higher prices for goods.  Lower corporate taxes directly means lower prices on consumer goods, which means higher consumption, more manufacturing, etc.

Economics isn't always intuitive, I guess.

In addition to that it means more jobs to the legal residents of the United States. Attracted by the lower corporate tax, more and more manufacturing units will move to the US. This means more jobs + more tax revenues for the treasury.


No. The US has a minimum wage of 10+$, social securities and enviroment protection laws.
Lowering corporate tax wont make them competitive with mexico, india, china and other emerging countries.
Of course it is only one factor.   Depends on the nature of the goods, too.  In certain cases high freight costs  are a factor.
If transport costs are included in the cost of oversized cargo then that is one thing. But if transport costs are divided for example on the truck with accessories for computers it is a completely different situation.
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We can see now that trumps victory was not a cheat.He was ellected by people to save the americans job which he promised.As no american likes muslim and as wanted to pull them away from country which trump promised and he did so was the reason for his victory.

Trump promised a lot of things so what? To build a wall to expel from the country migrants is more he can do, but how it will enable the Americans to get new jobs? He's lying. Not all of it is understood.

It's okay if you don't understand it all.

As for the jobs, we've already seen him cause IIRC a couple hundred thousand jobs to stay in the US instead of move to other countries.  One deal at a time.

For corporate tax reduction (35% to 15%).

And guess whos gonna pay that: the american tax payer Smiley....

That's wrong.  Corporate taxes are ALWAYS passed on to the consumer base in the form of higher prices for goods.  Lower corporate taxes directly means lower prices on consumer goods, which means higher consumption, more manufacturing, etc.

Economics isn't always intuitive, I guess.



I guess it wasnt obvious but i was talking about the financing of the tax reduction.

The annual corporate tax revenue of the US is around 400 billion $.
A reduction from 35 to 10% would mean an average tax revenue loss of 280 billion $.


You dont actually believe everyone will start to sell 3x more (or buy 3x times more) stuff or?

Economics is not that simple like donalds wants it to be - atleast if you dont have a billionaire daddy.
Add one factory job to a town, that means 4-5x that much economic activity in the town.  Think of it as 4 more jobs in service industries.  Each of those does involve the government receipt of taxes.  Well, most of them.  Some areas do have large black markets.

I don't see a net loss at all, assuming there is an increase in manufacturing jobs.  
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February 04, 2017, 07:24:02 AM
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That's wrong.  Corporate taxes are ALWAYS passed on to the consumer base in the form of higher prices for goods.  Lower corporate taxes directly means lower prices on consumer goods, which means higher consumption, more manufacturing, etc.

Economics isn't always intuitive, I guess.

In addition to that it means more jobs to the legal residents of the United States. Attracted by the lower corporate tax, more and more manufacturing units will move to the US. This means more jobs + more tax revenues for the treasury.


No. The US has a minimum wage of 10+$, social securities and enviroment protection laws.
Lowering corporate tax wont make them competitive with mexico, india, china and other emerging countries.
Of course it is only one factor.   Depends on the nature of the goods, too.  In certain cases high freight costs  are a factor.

In most of the cases, people wouldn't mind paying 4% or 5% extra, if that means that millions of new jobs are created in the country. Also, It is unethical to import anything manufactured using $2 per day slave labor, be it from Mexico, or be it from India.

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That's wrong.  Corporate taxes are ALWAYS passed on to the consumer base in the form of higher prices for goods.  Lower corporate taxes directly means lower prices on consumer goods, which means higher consumption, more manufacturing, etc.

Economics isn't always intuitive, I guess.

In addition to that it means more jobs to the legal residents of the United States. Attracted by the lower corporate tax, more and more manufacturing units will move to the US. This means more jobs + more tax revenues for the treasury.


No. The US has a minimum wage of 10+$, social securities and enviroment protection laws.
Lowering corporate tax wont make them competitive with mexico, india, china and other emerging countries.
Of course it is only one factor.   Depends on the nature of the goods, too.  In certain cases high freight costs  are a factor.

In most of the cases, people wouldn't mind paying 4% or 5% extra, if that means that millions of new jobs are created in the country. Also, It is unethical to import anything manufactured using $2 per day slave labor, be it from Mexico, or be it from India.
Think always of long time not short time.Millions of new jobs creation will just be a dream.More manufacturing units will not move in but just move out.amazon microsoft expedia google infosys and other tech giants getting affected.
Might be he will look as hero for americans by what he is trying to do for them but this is not the correct way to do it  and is going to lead only to unexpected problems.
Just know a fact our god has created a big world and US is just a small piece of land.
Might be now everybody is thinking that something good happened by donald trump becoming president but in spam of 4 yrs they will realize hard earned money wasted on wall and all techies and jobs moving away but donalds word will become true of 'lets bring back old america again' as it will happen because  US will be 20yrs behind of remaining world.



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February 04, 2017, 12:24:33 PM
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That's wrong.  Corporate taxes are ALWAYS passed on to the consumer base in the form of higher prices for goods.  Lower corporate taxes directly means lower prices on consumer goods, which means higher consumption, more manufacturing, etc.

Economics isn't always intuitive, I guess.

In addition to that it means more jobs to the legal residents of the United States. Attracted by the lower corporate tax, more and more manufacturing units will move to the US. This means more jobs + more tax revenues for the treasury.


No. The US has a minimum wage of 10+$, social securities and enviroment protection laws.
Lowering corporate tax wont make them competitive with mexico, india, china and other emerging countries.
Of course it is only one factor.   Depends on the nature of the goods, too.  In certain cases high freight costs  are a factor.

In most of the cases, people wouldn't mind paying 4% or 5% extra, if that means that millions of new jobs are created in the country. Also, It is unethical to import anything manufactured using $2 per day slave labor, be it from Mexico, or be it from India.
Think always of long time not short time.Millions of new jobs creation will just be a dream.More manufacturing units will not move in but just move out.amazon microsoft expedia google infosys and other tech giants getting affected.
Might be he will look as hero for americans by what he is trying to do for them but this is not the correct way to do it  and is going to lead only to unexpected problems.
Just know a fact our god has created a big world and US is just a small piece of land.
Might be now everybody is thinking that something good happened by donald trump becoming president but in spam of 4 yrs they will realize hard earned money wasted on wall and all techies and jobs moving away but donalds word will become true of 'lets bring back old america again' as it will happen because  US will be 20yrs behind of remaining world.
Even now a large percentage of America's economy is not production and service. If Trump will bring their ideas to life, the production will decrease even more. In the labour market there should be competition.
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Think always of long time not short time.Millions of new jobs creation will just be a dream.More manufacturing units will not move in but just move out.amazon microsoft expedia google infosys and other tech giants getting affected.
Might be he will look as hero for americans by what he is trying to do for them but this is not the correct way to do it  and is going to lead only to unexpected problems.
Just know a fact our god has created a big world and US is just a small piece of land.
Might be now everybody is thinking that something good happened by donald trump becoming president but in spam of 4 yrs they will realize hard earned money wasted on wall and all techies and jobs moving away but donalds word will become true of 'lets bring back old america again' as it will happen because  US will be 20yrs behind of remaining world.

Trump is just removing the unfair competition between the corporations and their unfair practices. Recently, the tech companies fired a large number of American tech professionals, replacing them with low-paid staff from China and India. This can't continue.

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The CIA Director has urged caution in the US response to Russia. There is no evidence other than what a few agencies are saying that Russia "hacked" the DNC. There are conflicting reports between them. The documents were LEAKED to Wikileaks from someone within the DNC, not Russia. Either way, the election results will not be changed no matter how much the left tries to delegitimize the president-elect. Trump will be the president in 16 days.
i think after 16 days a new usa with some cool drastic changes will be visible.
1st good change he will be making is removing h1b visa so increasing job opportunities for usa people.second thing he is deporting muslims and the most imp is reducing tax to 15% and will build wall with the neighbouring terror bound mexico
if these changes he really makes then it will be complete new usa

He WILL NOT be deporting Muslims, I do not know where you have heard this... the extremists are the problem. He said he will obliterate ISIS, and radical islam in the country. There are Muslims in his administration for goodness sake. On another note, I do agree there will be some drastic changes coming soon -- hopefully for the better.


☞@devthedev, now HE (TRUMP or TRAP) is doing that. dated 04.02.2017

☞Well, as confuse as he is, he has to start from somewhere, atleast by fighting against immigrant or muslim.

He think being in the whitehouse is that easy.

OBAMA added 15 pound when he left the whitehouse. Let watch for TRAP.

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Think always of long time not short time.Millions of new jobs creation will just be a dream.More manufacturing units will not move in but just move out.amazon microsoft expedia google infosys and other tech giants getting affected.
Might be he will look as hero for americans by what he is trying to do for them but this is not the correct way to do it  and is going to lead only to unexpected problems.
Just know a fact our god has created a big world and US is just a small piece of land.
Might be now everybody is thinking that something good happened by donald trump becoming president but in spam of 4 yrs they will realize hard earned money wasted on wall and all techies and jobs moving away but donalds word will become true of 'lets bring back old america again' as it will happen because  US will be 20yrs behind of remaining world.

Trump is just removing the unfair competition between the corporations and their unfair practices. Recently, the tech companies fired a large number of American tech professionals, replacing them with low-paid staff from China and India. This can't continue.
You contradict yourself. When it comes to high-quality specialists, as they can be replaced uneducated workers from China and India? There is another reason. Low-skilled workers from America lost the competition to the Chinese and the Indians.

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Think always of long time not short time.Millions of new jobs creation will just be a dream.More manufacturing units will not move in but just move out.amazon microsoft expedia google infosys and other tech giants getting affected.
Might be he will look as hero for americans by what he is trying to do for them but this is not the correct way to do it  and is going to lead only to unexpected problems.
Just know a fact our god has created a big world and US is just a small piece of land.
Might be now everybody is thinking that something good happened by donald trump becoming president but in spam of 4 yrs they will realize hard earned money wasted on wall and all techies and jobs moving away but donalds word will become true of 'lets bring back old america again' as it will happen because  US will be 20yrs behind of remaining world.

Trump is just removing the unfair competition between the corporations and their unfair practices. Recently, the tech companies fired a large number of American tech professionals, replacing them with low-paid staff from China and India. This can't continue.
You contradict yourself. When it comes to high-quality specialists, as they can be replaced uneducated workers from China and India? There is another reason. Low-skilled workers from America lost the competition to the Chinese and the Indians.

Haleluja. I gotta tell my boss that we can replace all 100€/hour white collar workers with 1€/hour chinese and inidian peasants.

Btw you call it slave labor in china not because of their wages (their avg income is 15 k $ per year) but because of very low social standards, bad worker and enviroment protection laws.


The truth is the US are lying to themself.
They just overslept and have a systemic problem which made their manufacturing go south.

Look at germanys manufacturing. This is still one of the main job drivers.

And btw currency manipulation is bullock, germany was already one of the biggest export nation under the deutsche mark.

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February 04, 2017, 04:31:27 PM
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In Germany, one of the world's largest Turkish communities. They are Muslims and yet they are perfectly assimilated into German society. What can be said about France. They are unable to cope with their Muslim, I'm not even talking about immigrants.
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In Germany, one of the world's largest Turkish communities. They are Muslims and yet they are perfectly assimilated into German society. What can be said about France. They are unable to cope with their Muslim, I'm not even talking about immigrants.
Trump you idiot! He doesn't understand what to do as President. It seems to me that he thinks the presidency is like a game of monopoly. Clown! A competent immigration policy can only help America.
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