Tatsuaki Okamoto, Kazuo Ohta = potential Satoshis?

[thejaytiesto]

I was doing some research trying to find the earliest mentions of "electronic cash" and stumbled upon this book:

http://www.bookmetrix.com/detail/book/e47e88b1-b5b6-4069-9235-5fa95b1dc79a#citations

The mentions include the papers by     

Tatsuaki Okamoto
Kazuo Ohta

NTT LaboratoricsNippon Telegraph and Telephone Corporation
Kanagawa-ken
Japan

Satoshi was supposedly japanese... what do you think? Too far fetched? Im pretty sure whoever Satoshi was took a look this book for inspiration.

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[Xester]

I was doing some research trying to find the earliest mentions of "electronic cash" and stumbled upon this book:

http://www.bookmetrix.com/detail/book/e47e88b1-b5b6-4069-9235-5fa95b1dc79a#citations

The mentions include the papers by     

Tatsuaki Okamoto
Kazuo Ohta

NTT LaboratoricsNippon Telegraph and Telephone Corporation
Kanagawa-ken
Japan

Satoshi was supposedly japanese... what do you think? Too far fetched? Im pretty sure whoever Satoshi was took a look this book for inspiration.

Satoshi Nakamoto is not a single person, I believe, but a group of developers. I have the same hunch as you that those developers aka Satoshi have been inspired by that book. I hope to read that book to know more of the content. It is nice to discover the technology and history before bitcoins came to life and possibly this book has something about them.

[Dmitry.Vastov]

think theres a possibility he is Satoshi Nakamoto because of his background. But its really hard to determine who's really Satoshi Nakamoto is. Anyone can claim they are the real Satoshi Nakamoto. Thats the problem. Maybe Satoshi Nakamoto is really a japanese or just an alias. I think theres a reason why Satoshi Nakamoto chose not to expose himself.

[franky1]

too far fetched.

the thing is the cypherpunks have been trying to solve the double spend issue for decades.

blockchain was not new to 2008-2009 or satoshi.
proof of work was not new to 2008-2009 or satoshi
ecdsa keypairs was not new to 2008-2009 or satoshi.

all together there are atleast 10 things that make bitcoin what it is..
all of them are not new to 2008-2009 or satoshi

what satoshi done, was be the person who was the genius that patchworked all the things together in a way that works beautifully.

and no before you try, although adamback 'invented' proof of work in 1997.. does not make adamback satoshi either

satoshi did work with others and bounce idea's off other people.
satoshi did also take other peoples idea's
this is no secret.

but satoshi was only one person. only one person used his pseudonym

[chesatochi]

too far fetched.

the thing is the cypherpunks have been trying to solve the double spend issue for decades.

blockchain was not new to 2008-2009 or satoshi.
proof of work was not new to 2008-2009 or satoshi
ecdsa keypairs was not new to 2008-2009 or satoshi.

all together there are atleast 10 things that make bitcoin what it is..
all of them are not new to 2008-2009 or satoshi

what satoshi done, was be the person who was the genius that patchworked all the things together in a way that works beautifully.

and no before you try, although adamback 'invented' proof of work in 1997.. does not make adamback satoshi either

satoshi did work with others and bounce idea's off other people.
satoshi did also take other peoples idea's
this is no secret.

but satoshi was only one person. only one person used his pseudonym

I think it doesn't matter who is the person behind the technology, the vast majority will use it the same way we open the light. What we need to remember from the beginning and history, this person had a vision in mind and find a way to create value. To have alternatives from the old economy based on debt. The new economy should be in our hand with the increasing in purchasing power over time with the limited supply in the market.

[NorrisK]

I was doing some research trying to find the earliest mentions of "electronic cash" and stumbled upon this book:

http://www.bookmetrix.com/detail/book/e47e88b1-b5b6-4069-9235-5fa95b1dc79a#citations

The mentions include the papers by     

Tatsuaki Okamoto
Kazuo Ohta

NTT LaboratoricsNippon Telegraph and Telephone Corporation
Kanagawa-ken
Japan

Satoshi was supposedly japanese... what do you think? Too far fetched? Im pretty sure whoever Satoshi was took a look this book for inspiration.

Satoshi Nakamoto is not a single person, I believe, but a group of developers. I have the same hunch as you that those developers aka Satoshi have been inspired by that book. I hope to read that book to know more of the content. It is nice to discover the technology and history before bitcoins came to life and possibly this book has something about them.

There is no definitive proof that satoshi is one person or a group. Claiming satoshi is a group cannot be substantiated at this point.

I doubt this person is satoshi though. It would've caught the attention of the satoshi hunters a long time ago as they seem to have been quite thorough.

[digaran]

Did you know that knowledge is not just given to individuals selectively but it moves just like clouds around the planet, one can tap into it when passing their location and others can do it as well some where else and the person who acts first and puts it in work is always remembered as the ONE.
Many other people might have'd the same ideas but "Satoshi" was the one doing it the way that he did.

All the greatest inventions of all times are the product of the one who made the loudest noise about it, like electricity Edison and Tesla or telephone Bell and some woman which no one even knows her name or just a few people do, she invented telephone but Bell was the first to introduce it to the world widely and loudly.

[manselr]

I think it's a good find, but that book as far as I know does not introduce the concept of a cryptocurrency and all the intricacies what make bitcoin such a breakthrough. That book is probably considered prehistoric in current cryptology developments, but definitely worth reading it to put things into perspective. This does not disprove that they arent satoshi since anyone could be satoshi until proven otherwise.

too far fetched.

the thing is the cypherpunks have been trying to solve the double spend issue for decades.

blockchain was not new to 2008-2009 or satoshi.
proof of work was not new to 2008-2009 or satoshi
ecdsa keypairs was not new to 2008-2009 or satoshi.

all together there are atleast 10 things that make bitcoin what it is..
all of them are not new to 2008-2009 or satoshi

what satoshi done, was be the person who was the genius that patchworked all the things together in a way that works beautifully.

and no before you try, although adamback 'invented' proof of work in 1997.. does not make adamback satoshi either

satoshi did work with others and bounce idea's off other people.
satoshi did also take other peoples idea's
this is no secret.

but satoshi was only one person. only one person used his pseudonym

How do you even know satoshi was only one person? as far as I can remember, satoshi used to, and tor's ips are shared with the rest of the users and constantly change, and just on this forum alone a ton of people use tor, so it's impossible to prove that satoshi was only person. Even if he was the only person posting, he may have had other people working for him too.

But ultimately we can't prove nothing, it may have been a single genius too. It's cooler to think not gonna lie.

[franky1]

How do you even know satoshi was only one person? as far as I can remember, satoshi used to, and tor's ips are shared with the rest of the users and constantly change, and just on this forum alone a ton of people use tor, so it's impossible to prove that satoshi was only person. Even if he was the only person posting, he may have had other people working for him too.

But ultimately we can't prove nothing, it may have been a single genius too. It's cooler to think not gonna lie.

analysts have looked at his posts and language use, checked the times he posts. those that interacted with satoshi on cypherpunks, sourceforge this forum and emails have all pointed to one person and not a group.

though bitcoin is a patchwork of many idea's of many people and many devs worked on it. the entity behind the pseudonym satoshi is just one person

[tunctioncloud]

I think this is too far fetched, for several reasons : Satoshi is not at all Japanese, this is just a cover for me to make people search for him in the wrong direction. Satoshi is a single person, and not a group, like the duo you are proposing us. The book is dated of 1992, and Bitcoin was released in 2008, this is 16 years of difference, this is too much. Moreover, that would kill the my reason of why it has been released at this date, which is for me an answer to the financial crisis of 2008.

[Kprawn]

How do you even know satoshi was only one person? as far as I can remember, satoshi used to, and tor's ips are shared with the rest of the users and constantly change, and just on this forum alone a ton of people use tor, so it's impossible to prove that satoshi was only person. Even if he was the only person posting, he may have had other people working for him too.

But ultimately we can't prove nothing, it may have been a single genius too. It's cooler to think not gonna lie.

analysts have looked at his posts and language use, checked the times he posts. those that interacted with satoshi on cypherpunks, sourceforge this forum and emails have all pointed to one person and not a group.

though bitcoin is a patchwork of many idea's of many people and many devs worked on it. the entity behind the pseudonym satoshi is just one person

This proves nothing Franki1  You can have a group of people with one spokesperson, so that's not unusual in any sense. There might have

been a significant individual Japanese person in this group, and they decided together on this name/pseudonym. We should consider all the

possibilities and Satoshi Nakamoto being a group of people are one of them. 

[avatar_kiyoshi]

I doubt obviously.
Cryptography has been exist when world war 2, definitely SN also learning first about crypto and I think SN is the one (person/group) of big group cryptography. That's hard to reveal who is SN, which certainly SN don't want disturbed, let SN alone.

[Velkro]

Satoshi was supposedly japanese... what do you think? Too far fetched?

Yes, too far fetched. Many people were think about electronic cash since forever. Sciencie-fiction writes, scientists and common folks also.
Bitcoin is unique, all this ideas before were not, they were only IDEA and bitcoin is REALITY.

[dihari]

I think bitcoin users nowadays is not carry anymore about who is created this perfect crypto currency. Now bitcoin users only care on how much btc will be raise and busy on buy or sell their bitcoin.
All i can say is thanks for anyone who made this, especially sathosi nakamoto.

[South Park]

too far fetched.

the thing is the cypherpunks have been trying to solve the double spend issue for decades.

blockchain was not new to 2008-2009 or satoshi.
proof of work was not new to 2008-2009 or satoshi
ecdsa keypairs was not new to 2008-2009 or satoshi.

all together there are atleast 10 things that make bitcoin what it is..
all of them are not new to 2008-2009 or satoshi

what satoshi done, was be the person who was the genius that patchworked all the things together in a way that works beautifully.

and no before you try, although adamback 'invented' proof of work in 1997.. does not make adamback satoshi either

satoshi did work with others and bounce idea's off other people.
satoshi did also take other peoples idea's
this is no secret.

but satoshi was only one person. only one person used his pseudonym

I think it doesn't matter who is the person behind the technology, the vast majority will use it the same way we open the light. What we need to remember from the beginning and history, this person had a vision in mind and find a way to create value. To have alternatives from the old economy based on debt. The new economy should be in our hand with the increasing in purchasing power over time with the limited supply in the market.

While the identity or identities of the people behind the name Satoshi Nakamoto does not change the technology or how we use it, I think it is important to know who created such a marvelous technology, we know who created PGP, so I would like to know who created BTC, but maybe we will never know.

[Yakamoto]

I find it doubtful that just because some papers of theirs had been published with the keywords "electronic money" they are Satoshi and created Bitcoin.

While not a completely strange hypothesis, there were a lot of digital money concepts that were made and spread before Bitcoin became a thing, so while unlikely, it is possible, but there needs to be a bit more definitive evidence than this.

[GMPoison]

There is a reason he wanted to be anonymous, it's so we could focus on the technology and not the man behind it. It was smart of him.