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January 06, 2017, 01:02:08 AM
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Anyone can help me? I have 2 transaction not confirmed more than 12 hours.

https://blockchain.info/tx/40d8d599edf1748a36ab4820853275bba0b3cc78ddba37fbc86970b44ea7e741

https://blockchain.info/tx/0964303dc72c57c92f2f69a35da8049294e2726dbaf6ea3f94f7a4f9641fa989

Any solution for these? It is my first time face these kind of issues.

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January 06, 2017, 01:09:06 AM
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Your transaction fee is fairly low. You can 1) wait for it to confirm eventually, 2) create an RBF (double spend) transaction, or 3) ask a miner to confirm it for you.

For option 2, we need to know what wallet software you are using.

For option 3, you can contact Quickseller and macbook-air and they can help you with that.

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January 06, 2017, 01:39:08 AM
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Your transaction fee is fairly low. You can 1) wait for it to confirm eventually, 2) create an RBF (double spend) transaction, or 3) ask a miner to confirm it for you.

For option 2, we need to know what wallet software you are using.

For option 3, you can contact Quickseller and macbook-air and they can help you with that.

Hi friend

I am using blockchain to sent the transaction, what is the procedure of double spend, can you roughly explain it because I am new to bitcoin.

My laptop is macbook pro with latest verision of OSsierra, is this the software you are talking?
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January 06, 2017, 01:47:45 AM
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Hi friend

I am using blockchain to sent the transaction, what is the procedure of double spend, can you roughly explain it because I am new to bitcoin.

My laptop is macbook pro with latest verision of OSsierra, is this the software you are talking?
I was asking for what your wallet client is. You are using blockchain.info's web wallet. This wallet does not give you enough utilities in order to properly double spend the Bitcoin. Unfortunately you will not be able to do that option.

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January 06, 2017, 01:47:56 AM
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2) create an RBF (double spend) transaction
For option 2, we need to know what wallet software you are using.
False. You can't double-spend a transaction which is not RBF enabled like in op's case.
My laptop is macbook pro with latest verision of OSsierra, is this the software you are talking?
Hehe, no. Just wait, it'll confirm faster than you can contact anyone or before you can "double-spend" this transaction.

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January 06, 2017, 01:56:33 AM
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False. You can't double-spend a transaction which is not RBF enabled like in op's case.
You are incorrect. You can double spend a transaction which is not RBF enabled, it will just be slightly harder to do as less nodes will relay it, but it is still possible. It has been done multiple times in the past by other users in the same situation of the OP and I have done it before to prove that it could be done.

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January 06, 2017, 02:12:04 AM
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You are incorrect. You can double spend a transaction which is not RBF enabled, it will just be slightly harder to do as less nodes will relay it, but it is still possible. It has been done multiple times in the past by other users in the same situation of the OP and I have done it before to prove that it could be done.
Ok. Here is my first transaction (non-RBF) https://blockchain.info/tx/8ec829670f3e20f76155cc25a0dd91e5e4c6cdcfb19ba92aa2db44bde437d993 which pays a fee of barely above 10 sat/B
Here is the raw of my second RBF enabled transaction:
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0100000001d13268bf354efa3afb1e36de03e22d4f7267ba85f2f0fb531efc09808a3b6d5f000000008b483045022100dbd5f4e2e8f38efba47d150048f2b4ab9ea81b46e2de3a0ae0d57f1a53f8eff802201adba6cf8c5e5aeb6b4a82734dbb58bb98aaef2eb1115a8e9d79cba991265d96014104d41dd0e449372f8896755cc74f0ed86cbfdffa531808dd4a391e09c3b9f629b98a12fd07487ed576131169fdceea9137909655aa079eb2a7eebd05742ab8d87afdffffff01c0732600000000001976a9147c298d5d195cf7ba257cff786e56026baf4a43a988ac00000000
Which pays a fee of 223 sat/B. Good luck double-spending my first tx with the second one, are there really some full RBF miners?

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January 06, 2017, 02:19:13 AM
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So, anymore things I can do now?

I had contacted Quickseller and macbook-air.

Thank you very much to all of you.
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January 06, 2017, 02:20:03 AM
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You are incorrect. You can double spend a transaction which is not RBF enabled, it will just be slightly harder to do as less nodes will relay it, but it is still possible. It has been done multiple times in the past by other users in the same situation of the OP and I have done it before to prove that it could be done.
Ok. Here is my first transaction (non-RBF) https://blockchain.info/tx/8ec829670f3e20f76155cc25a0dd91e5e4c6cdcfb19ba92aa2db44bde437d993 which pays a fee of barely above 10 sat/B
Here is the raw of my second RBF enabled transaction:
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0100000001d13268bf354efa3afb1e36de03e22d4f7267ba85f2f0fb531efc09808a3b6d5f000000008b483045022100dbd5f4e2e8f38efba47d150048f2b4ab9ea81b46e2de3a0ae0d57f1a53f8eff802201adba6cf8c5e5aeb6b4a82734dbb58bb98aaef2eb1115a8e9d79cba991265d96014104d41dd0e449372f8896755cc74f0ed86cbfdffa531808dd4a391e09c3b9f629b98a12fd07487ed576131169fdceea9137909655aa079eb2a7eebd05742ab8d87afdffffff01c0732600000000001976a9147c298d5d195cf7ba257cff786e56026baf4a43a988ac00000000
Which pays a fee of 223 sat/B. Good luck double-spending my first tx with the second one, are there really some full RBF miners?
Yes, there are full RBF miners. I have done a double spend publicly on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/5ar9sb/does_replace_by_fee_make_double_spending_easier/d9ivqtd/

Furthermore, how do you think everyone else who has stuck transaction issues are able to make a new transaction with a higher fee? They are double spending; they are making an RBF transaction without any RBF signalling in the original transaction. Seriously, take a look through the tech support section and look at all of the transactions people are complaining about. All of those transactions don't signal RBF and many of them are not confirmed but rather have been successfully double spent.



Anyways, this is off topic for this thread. Just because you do not understand how it works or why it works does not mean that it does not work. This has been done multiple times in the past; just because you don't know that does not mean that it does not work.



So, anymore things I can do now?

I had contacted Quickseller and macbook-air.

Thank you very much to all of you.
All you can do is wait. You can wait for the transaction to either confirm, or for it to eventually be "forgotten" by the network. In the latter case, the transaction should disappear from most block explorers and your wallet so you can just send the Bitcoin again but with a higher transaction fee. However for this to happen you have to wait a few days.

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January 06, 2017, 02:56:59 AM
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Yes, there are full RBF miners. I have done a double spend publicly on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/5ar9sb/does_replace_by_fee_make_double_spending_easier/d9ivqtd/
I am not convinced as you have double-spend a transaction with a fee of 5 sat/B. A lot of miners have a min relay fee of 10 sat/B so a lot of miners could have mined the double-spend tx.
Double-spend my tx, I had already given you the raw.
Furthermore, how do you think everyone else who has stuck transaction issues are able to make a new transaction with a higher fee? They are double spending; they are making an RBF transaction without any RBF signalling in the original transaction. Seriously, take a look through the tech support section and look at all of the transactions people are complaining about. All of those transactions don't signal RBF and many of them are not confirmed but rather have been successfully double spent.
Well if you could link some I would deeply appreciate it. As far as I have looked all of the guys who complained about their tx not confirming got their transactions confirmed.
Anyways, this is off topic for this thread. Just because you do not understand how it works or why it works does not mean that it does not work. This has been done multiple times in the past; just because you don't know that does not mean that it does not work.
I did not know there were full RBF miners out there (and I am still not sure). Just because you double-spent a tx which paid a fee of 5 sat/B doesn't mean there are full RBF miners out there.
Well the op asked us how to double-spend so teach him a thing. He said he uses blockchain.info so the first thing he needs to do is retrieve the private keys from there. It used to be possible at least 4 years ago when I checked it.

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January 06, 2017, 03:01:05 AM
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I am not convinced as you have double-spend a transaction with a fee of 5 sat/B. A lot of miners have a min relay fee of 10 sat/B so a lot of miners could have mined the double-spend tx.
Double-spend my tx, I had already given you the raw.
My node is currently offline. You can do it yourself; I have no obligation to prove to you that it is possible, you can do that yourself. Multiple other people (such as peter todd) have done this as well. Seriously, just do some googling.

Well the op asked us how to double-spend so teach him a thing. He said he uses blockchain.info so the first thing you need to do is retrieve the private keys from there. It used to be possible at least 4 years ago when I checked it.
it is not longer possible to retrieve the private keys from blockchain.info. They changed their software.

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January 06, 2017, 03:14:39 AM
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All you can do is wait. You can wait for the transaction to either confirm, or for it to eventually be "forgotten" by the network. In the latter case, the transaction should disappear from most block explorers and your wallet so you can just send the Bitcoin again but with a higher transaction fee. However for this to happen you have to wait a few days.
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Ok, I will wait for it to be approved and currently still waiting reply from Quickseller and macbook-air.
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