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February 05, 2017, 05:34:40 PM
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Gambling is more than just about winning money.  The feeling of the unknown, and not knowing if you'll win or lose that makes it exciting.  However, with a lot of money, can you really lose?  You can always keep doubling up until you win and you'll always be up. 
There is no money that is unlimited, there should be an exact amount of money that you have even if you are filthy rich person. What you are recommending is something a rich person should not do, you are just putting your self in the hole of failure, you can lose everything you have when you have a bad luck.


Yes, you can lose everything you have when you have a bad luck. Even if you are a rich, even if you have a super a lot of money, if you jave a bad luck, you will get so hard to win. And it means you will lose your bet. And when you always lose, you will lost a lot of money, and then you become from hero to zero.

i agree there a lot of stories of wealthy businessmen or entrepreneurs that at first you may think gambling won't be a big deal for them as they have too much money to burn but in the end, these people, who succumb to greed, lose everything they have not only materially, but their families as well. that's why even if you are rich, you can never be sure and it is better to practice self control especially when it comes to gambling

 
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March 13, 2017, 08:24:08 AM
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If money would not be a problem, i would still gamble but i would only play for fun. Also, ill put a limitation so that i wont get broke just because of gambling. Just play fun and  trying to double your money even though money is not a problem.
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March 13, 2017, 09:17:50 AM
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If money would not be a problem, i would still gamble but i would only play for fun. Also, ill put a limitation so that i wont get broke just because of gambling. Just play fun and  trying to double your money even though money is not a problem.
How can you be broke if money is not a problem anymore? Surely that you will play just to take some fun out of it , theres no bearing even you lose a lot only thing is you will have a huge chances in winning coming from it so martingale will be the best strategy to win.
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March 13, 2017, 10:09:30 AM
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If money would not be a problem, i would still gamble but i would only play for fun. Also, ill put a limitation so that i wont get broke just because of gambling. Just play fun and  trying to double your money even though money is not a problem.
How can you be broke if money is not a problem anymore? Surely that you will play just to take some fun out of it , theres no bearing even you lose a lot only thing is you will have a huge chances in winning coming from it so martingale will be the best strategy to win.
There's a possibility to broke even money is not a problem if you got addicted sure thing you may lose all your money .Many rich people got broke just because of improper knowledge handling money in the sense of gambling activity. Martingle stratedgy not always give you a profit .Since you have the money and it is not a problem how much you bet and afford to lose its not a good thing if you exceeds your limit .
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March 13, 2017, 10:36:14 AM
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If money would not be a problem, i would still gamble but i would only play for fun. Also, ill put a limitation so that i wont get broke just because of gambling. Just play fun and  trying to double your money even though money is not a problem.
How can you be broke if money is not a problem anymore? Surely that you will play just to take some fun out of it , theres no bearing even you lose a lot only thing is you will have a huge chances in winning coming from it so martingale will be the best strategy to win.
There's a possibility to broke even money is not a problem if you got addicted sure thing you may lose all your money .Many rich people got broke just because of improper knowledge handling money in the sense of gambling activity. Martingle stratedgy not always give you a profit .Since you have the money and it is not a problem how much you bet and afford to lose its not a good thing if you exceeds your limit.
If The money is no a problem and you play blindly then there is a possibility are there to become rich to poor in gambling. So if you rich guy, have enough money to play don't play blindly and play only how much you can afford. Otherwise, in gambling, there is no partiality it will treat everyone in the same way you may be rich or poor the result is same. The players are losers in the long run.
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March 13, 2017, 10:49:48 AM
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Yes, i will still gamble.Because i will play for my pleasure and for entertainment. Since there have no problem about money so i think gamble is perfect for fun and also for refreshment.Because i like gambling and it is exiting.
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March 13, 2017, 11:26:45 AM
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Yes, i will still gamble.Because i will play for my pleasure and for entertainment. Since there have no problem about money so i think gamble is perfect for fun and also for refreshment.Because i like gambling and it is exiting.

While we are still hoping for it, all of the gamblers thinks like that, if their purpose of life is to gamble so that they could satisfy their desire. But if their purpose of being a gambler is to earn and have a good future, for sure, when they reach that point, they will be thinking about fixing their lives.

But who knows, decisions changes when we are already there.

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March 13, 2017, 12:01:05 PM
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Yes, i will still gamble.Because i will play for my pleasure and for entertainment. Since there have no problem about money so i think gamble is perfect for fun and also for refreshment.Because i like gambling and it is exiting.

While we are still hoping for it, all of the gamblers thinks like that, if their purpose of life is to gamble so that they could satisfy their desire. But if their purpose of being a gambler is to earn and have a good future, for sure, when they reach that point, they will be thinking about fixing their lives.

But who knows, decisions changes when we are already there.
Gambling has different impact in our lives and the way on how we treat it, if im rich or living without problem in money i would still gamble. its a good way to kill time and entertain myself and to think of it that i dont have to worry of the money ill spend is a relieve.
Nevertheless, too much can led for something bad its important to limit yourself, remember that being rich doesnt mean youre always on top there are also incident that you may fall if youre not cautious.

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March 13, 2017, 12:08:19 PM
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I would or I will.
C'mon. With a lot of capital in your hand you would enjoy it quickly.
I would really want to be a poker master. Yes, with a lot of money now you could get fame.
People talking about the poker player which is forced to be one because of the large amount of money.
There wont be problem playing and you will just have to enjoy it. That will have with a poker game when they see you so calm even while bluffing.
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March 13, 2017, 12:20:32 PM
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Gambling is more than just about winning money.  The feeling of the unknown, and not knowing if you'll win or lose that makes it exciting.  However, with a lot of money, can you really lose?  You can always keep doubling up until you win and you'll always be up. 
There is no money that is unlimited, there should be an exact amount of money that you have even if you are filthy rich person. What you are recommending is something a rich person should not do, you are just putting your self in the hole of failure, you can lose everything you have when you have a bad luck.


Yes, you can lose everything you have when you have a bad luck. Even if you are a rich, even if you have a super a lot of money, if you jave a bad luck, you will get so hard to win. And it means you will lose your bet. And when you always lose, you will lost a lot of money, and then you become from hero to zero.

I knew someone who was not rich but quite wealthy... invested in East German real estates because he believes in the Aufschwung... well, this did end badly, he lost all his invested money and that was quite a lot.

Investing your money in order to have big profits is very similar to gambling IMO. That's why it is safer to invest in established companies who although pay you not much but they do pay and the chance of losing all you've invested is negligible in those cases. But being poor and gamble in order to become rich is a total absurd.
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March 13, 2017, 01:13:31 PM
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Gambling is more than just about winning money.  The feeling of the unknown, and not knowing if you'll win or lose that makes it exciting.  However, with a lot of money, can you really lose?  You can always keep doubling up until you win and you'll always be up. 
There is no money that is unlimited, there should be an exact amount of money that you have even if you are filthy rich person. What you are recommending is something a rich person should not do, you are just putting your self in the hole of failure, you can lose everything you have when you have a bad luck.


Yes, you can lose everything you have when you have a bad luck. Even if you are a rich, even if you have a super a lot of money, if you jave a bad luck, you will get so hard to win. And it means you will lose your bet. And when you always lose, you will lost a lot of money, and then you become from hero to zero.

I knew someone who was not rich but quite wealthy... invested in East German real estates because he believes in the Aufschwung... well, this did end badly, he lost all his invested money and that was quite a lot.

Investing your money in order to have big profits is very similar to gambling IMO. That's why it is safer to invest in established companies who although pay you not much but they do pay and the chance of losing all you've invested is negligible in those cases. But being poor and gamble in order to become rich is a total absurd.
Most of the people who get worse through gambling is the intermediate class people who will be thriving hard to reach the next level. In the race only very few number will be successful earning good through gambling. Most others will be unlucky to loss. So it's better to invest on trusted investment firms.

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March 13, 2017, 01:48:29 PM
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I would or I will.
C'mon. With a lot of capital in your hand you would enjoy it quickly.
I would really want to be a poker master. Yes, with a lot of money now you could get fame.
People talking about the poker player which is forced to be one because of the large amount of money.
There wont be problem playing and you will just have to enjoy it. That will have with a poker game when they see you so calm even while bluffing.
And not only that, with a lot of money you have the liberty to try different games that you have not tried before, you will not be afraid of losing as all your know is just to have fun since money is not your problem anymore.

When I will be in that situation in the future, I will still gamble but I maybe lessen my time as there are more things I need to do which my long time dream, I love to travel around the world and maybe then I can gamble in a real casino, they say it's more fun in a physical casino that in online.

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March 13, 2017, 01:54:04 PM
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I would or I will.
C'mon. With a lot of capital in your hand you would enjoy it quickly.
I would really want to be a poker master. Yes, with a lot of money now you could get fame.
People talking about the poker player which is forced to be one because of the large amount of money.
There wont be problem playing and you will just have to enjoy it. That will have with a poker game when they see you so calm even while bluffing.
And not only that, with a lot of money you have the liberty to try different games that you have not tried before, you will not be afraid of losing as all your know is just to have fun since money is not your problem anymore.

When I will be in that situation in the future, I will still gamble but I maybe lessen my time as there are more things I need to do which my long time dream, I love to travel around the world and maybe then I can gamble in a real casino, they say it's more fun in a physical casino that in online.
Comparing between a real casino and online casino does really have the difference since when you are on a real casino there are lots of pretty babes out there while you are playing which really gives you some relaxation and confidence.I would really gambler if I do have the money and wont experiencing problems of scarcity on spending it.

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March 13, 2017, 06:53:03 PM
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I am just wondering if you still would gamble if you would have enough money? I mean, now as it is, do you gamble for the fun or for the profit?

I don't think I will gamble if I had enough and there's nothing like gambling for fun. I will only gamble if I want to make profit.
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March 14, 2017, 06:17:04 AM
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If money would not be a problem, i would still gamble but i would only play for fun. Also, ill put a limitation so that i wont get broke just because of gambling. Just play fun and  trying to double your money even though money is not a problem.
How can you be broke if money is not a problem anymore? Surely that you will play just to take some fun out of it , theres no bearing even you lose a lot only thing is you will have a huge chances in winning coming from it so martingale will be the best strategy to win.
The problem here is that none of us has actually experienced a point in life when they didn't cared for money and hence even when we are discussing the topic of "money not an issue" they still put limits to avoid being broke.
I myself would have gambled too had I got no issues of money because I have no job right now and hence the best way to kill/pass time is gambling.
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March 14, 2017, 07:14:51 AM
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If money would not be a problem, i would still gamble but i would only play for fun. Also, ill put a limitation so that i wont get broke just because of gambling. Just play fun and  trying to double your money even though money is not a problem.
How can you be broke if money is not a problem anymore? Surely that you will play just to take some fun out of it , theres no bearing even you lose a lot only thing is you will have a huge chances in winning coming from it so martingale will be the best strategy to win.
The problem here is that none of us has actually experienced a point in life when they didn't cared for money and hence even when we are discussing the topic of "money not an issue" they still put limits to avoid being broke.
I myself would have gambled too had I got no issues of money because I have no job right now and hence the best way to kill/pass time is gambling.
That's correct, there is no person that has unlimited money, because even a person is very rich, they will still work hard to gain more money. People who have a lot of money has more right to gamble and spend money to be entertain and I don't think they can easily be addicted since they are not desperate just like us, their purpose is only to enjoy and not to increase their wealth. I'm sure they are wise already as they have achieve that success already.

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March 14, 2017, 11:11:13 AM
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If money was no issue i would 100% still gamble just for fun though cause gambling can be fun when your not trying to kill the casino


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March 14, 2017, 11:20:31 AM
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Yes, I will gamble if the money would not be a problem. For me, gambling is addictive to me, but at the same time, I will take care of my family. But when compared to my family gambling is not that much important to me, because I play gambling for fun not to blame myself for addicts to it.
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March 14, 2017, 11:56:20 AM
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If money was no issue i would 100% still gamble just for fun though cause gambling can be fun when your not trying to kill the casino

If money is not issue anymore, I dont think someone will gamble anymore. We gamble even for fun because we feel the thrill of gambling. We stake our money on the line and when we win we feel happy even if it is for fun however if winning or losing wont make any difference anymore then people might not be gambling anymore
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March 14, 2017, 05:27:58 PM
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I am just wondering if you still would gamble if you would have enough money? I mean, now as it is, do you gamble for the fun or for the profit?

I don't think I will gamble if I had enough and there's nothing like gambling for fun. I will only gamble if I want to make profit.
Simple and straight forward and I totally agree with you. People calling that they would still gambling for fun are actually fooling themselves because how the hell you have fun in clicking roll on a dice site for hours ? And if autobet is what you would do then how come you having fun ?

I guess they can't totally imagine that situation when they have no problem of money.

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