How does freebitco.in sites work.

[wh04m1]

Does this site actually calculate random or do it calculate that it will always win itself?

[0x0010]

You mean the part where you roll to get btc or the dice?

"How are rolls calculated"

Two strings are created :
STRING1 = "[NONCE]:[SERVER SEED]:[NONCE]"
STRING2 = "[NONCE]:[CLIENT SEED]:[NONCE]"
Then HMAC-SHA512 is used to hash STRING1 with STRING2 as the secret key, giving us a 128 character hex string.
The first 8 characters of the hex string are taken and converted to a decimal.
This decimal is then divided by 429496.7295 and rounded off to the nearest whole number.
This whole number is used as your roll, with the maximum possible value being 10,000."

[wh04m1]

You mean the part where you roll to get btc or the dice?

"How are rolls calculated"

Two strings are created :
STRING1 = "[NONCE]:[SERVER SEED]:[NONCE]"
STRING2 = "[NONCE]:[CLIENT SEED]:[NONCE]"
Then HMAC-SHA512 is used to hash STRING1 with STRING2 as the secret key, giving us a 128 character hex string.
The first 8 characters of the hex string are taken and converted to a decimal.
This decimal is then divided by 429496.7295 and rounded off to the nearest whole number.
This whole number is used as your roll, with the maximum possible value being 10,000."

For example, when we enter "BET AMOUNT" as 0.00000001, it gives us but when we enter "BET AMOUNT" 0.00001024 it loses us. Could the values entered on the site be calculated in the server's own interest?

[0x0010]

You mean the part where you roll to get btc or the dice?

"How are rolls calculated"

Two strings are created :
STRING1 = "[NONCE]:[SERVER SEED]:[NONCE]"
STRING2 = "[NONCE]:[CLIENT SEED]:[NONCE]"
Then HMAC-SHA512 is used to hash STRING1 with STRING2 as the secret key, giving us a 128 character hex string.
The first 8 characters of the hex string are taken and converted to a decimal.
This decimal is then divided by 429496.7295 and rounded off to the nearest whole number.
This whole number is used as your roll, with the maximum possible value being 10,000."

For example, when we enter "BET AMOUNT" as 0.00000001, it gives us but when we enter "BET AMOUNT" 0.00001024 it loses us. Could the values entered on the site be calculated in the server's own interest?

Maybe it's the minimum bet amount and it automatically recalculated it? Or it might be like digital storage units. 1 GB = 1,024 MB.

[wh04m1]

I think the safe always wins. They don't distribute more than the money their earns. In fact, the values we have entered have no meaning.

[0x0010]

No, it's all provably fair and confirmable.

Ignore my last post, I believe the reason it's a different value is due to the crazy high house edge.

[wh04m1]

Can you prove to me that this site is fair?
I've been trying this site for a long time. I tried both with the script code and myself tried it myself. It's coded to make us lose money.

[0x0010]

I bet 0.00000051 btc with a 5x multiplier and got 7420. It was a loss.

Server seed: 96b6758886a2cded13b7f09d8dcbf85855a576f562c1b9f8fa6940125eb60eb7
Server seed hash: e0fc3f601b39b07b61cf50de7fc961bd8c5c9ea04bd8459dcdaaf13431dfa431
Client seed: HJ0IzcQlOTGqxxsp
Nonce: 12

Number verifies - https://s3.amazonaws.com/roll-verifier/verify.html?server_seed=96b6758886a2cded13b7f09d8dcbf85855a576f562c1b9f8fa6940125eb60eb7&client_seed=HJ0IzcQlOTGqxxsp&server_seed_hash=e0fc3f601b39b07b61cf50de7fc961bd8c5c9ea04bd8459dcdaaf13431dfa431&nonce=12

You can also use an external provably fair verifier.

"This game is provably fair. What that means is that there is no way the site can cheat you by picking a number that is in our favour.

The way this works is that each roll is calculated using 3 parameters - the server seed, client seed and nonce. Out of these, we show you the client seed and nonce that will be used for your next roll along with a SHA256 hash of the server seed. You can also change the client seed if you wish. The server seed is the only part that is kept a secret until after the roll.

Then after you roll, under the section titled PREVIOUS ROLL DETAILS, we show you the server seed that was used and you can verify that this was the same server seed that we said we were going to use before the roll by checking if the SHA256 hash of this seed matches the SHA256 hash that we showed you before the roll.To know exactly how we calculate the rolls, read the section below titled How are rolls calculated?

After you roll, you can also click the link above named CLICK HERE TO VERIFY YOUR ROLLS to verify your roll using our javascript based roll verifier which uses the same seeds to re-calculate the roll right in your browser without any external communication."

[wh04m1]

I bet 0.00000051 btc with a 5x multiplier and got 7420. It was a loss.

Server seed: 96b6758886a2cded13b7f09d8dcbf85855a576f562c1b9f8fa6940125eb60eb7
Server seed hash: e0fc3f601b39b07b61cf50de7fc961bd8c5c9ea04bd8459dcdaaf13431dfa431
Client seed: HJ0IzcQlOTGqxxsp
Nonce: 12

Number verifies - https://s3.amazonaws.com/roll-verifier/verify.html?server_seed=96b6758886a2cded13b7f09d8dcbf85855a576f562c1b9f8fa6940125eb60eb7&client_seed=HJ0IzcQlOTGqxxsp&server_seed_hash=e0fc3f601b39b07b61cf50de7fc961bd8c5c9ea04bd8459dcdaaf13431dfa431&nonce=12

You can also use an external provably fair verifier.

"This game is provably fair. What that means is that there is no way the site can cheat you by picking a number that is in our favour.

The way this works is that each roll is calculated using 3 parameters - the server seed, client seed and nonce. Out of these, we show you the client seed and nonce that will be used for your next roll along with a SHA256 hash of the server seed. You can also change the client seed if you wish. The server seed is the only part that is kept a secret until after the roll.

Then after you roll, under the section titled PREVIOUS ROLL DETAILS, we show you the server seed that was used and you can verify that this was the same server seed that we said we were going to use before the roll by checking if the SHA256 hash of this seed matches the SHA256 hash that we showed you before the roll.To know exactly how we calculate the rolls, read the section below titled How are rolls calculated?

After you roll, you can also click the link above named CLICK HERE TO VERIFY YOUR ROLLS to verify your roll using our javascript based roll verifier which uses the same seeds to re-calculate the roll right in your browser without any external communication."

The only thing I'm wondering is whether the value of the 5-digit number in "manual bet" is created on the client side or is it on the server side after I click "bet hi"?
If this value is created on the server side and printed on the screen, the reliability is zero. They can make all kinds of cheats.

[~Bitcoin~]

I think the safe always wins. They don't distribute more than the money their earns. In fact, the values we have entered have no meaning.

They have really high house edge of 5% so basically it means yes there is high chance that they will be earning lot more than what other casino site could earn. This also means there is high probability that each results may favor house/freebitco.in so players will loss more there playing than in any other casino.

They never disclose how much they earn from ads so hard to find out how much % they are giving out for free from what they earn.

[mrcash02]

I think the safe always wins. They don't distribute more than the money their earns. In fact, the values we have entered have no meaning.

They have really high house edge of 5% so basically it means yes there is high chance that they will be earning lot more than what other casino site could earn. This also means there is high probability that each results may favor house/freebitco.in so players will loss more there playing than in any other casino.

They never disclose how much they earn from ads so hard to find out how much % they are giving out for free from what they earn.

Freebitco.in is the worse popular site to gamble in my opinion. Their faucet is good, so the best everyone can do is to withdraw the money earned from faucet and send to another casino to bet. Always that I tried to gamble there I lost really fast. And some strategies there are worthless, as their house edge is too high as you said. I don't know how much income they earn, but if they are alive until and paying, I believe they have a good profit, principally over the Dice game. Many users use their balances earned in faucet to bet, consequently they lose all their balance...

[jaceefrost]

I think the safe always wins. They don't distribute more than the money their earns. In fact, the values we have entered have no meaning.

They have really high house edge of 5% so basically it means yes there is high chance that they will be earning lot more than what other casino site could earn. This also means there is high probability that each results may favor house/freebitco.in so players will loss more there playing than in any other casino.

They never disclose how much they earn from ads so hard to find out how much % they are giving out for free from what they earn.

Freebitco.in is the worse popular site to gamble in my opinion. Their faucet is good, so the best everyone can do is to withdraw the money earned from faucet and send to another casino to bet. Always that I tried to gamble there I lost really fast. And some strategies there are worthless, as their house edge is too high as you said. I don't know how much income they earn, but if they are alive until and paying, I believe they have a good profit, principally over the Dice game. Many users use their balances earned in faucet to bet, consequently they lose all their balance...

I never really viewd freebitco.in as a gambling site since the beginning that I have come accross that site. I've always thought that it is just anotherfaucet which have a higher payout compared to others. I'm not really entirely sure if thwir dice games works the same as any other dice sites that I've played withthat has a provably fair system.

[amaral1977]

I heard is kinda scammy. I don´t really know the mechanics of the thing. But in truth i´ve won a few times, but whenever i keep big ammounts and start to get real money out i end up loosing 18 or 20 times in a row. For me its just time spent as i don´t put any money other than the faucet, and been experiementing with it... but in the end I really don´t know if they are "provably fair" as statted...

[chip1994]

i like web faucet bitco.in but never I win and have poof of play for the entire hole leak

[jseverson]

I heard is kinda scammy. I don´t really know the mechanics of the thing. But in truth i´ve won a few times, but whenever i keep big ammounts and start to get real money out i end up loosing 18 or 20 times in a row. For me its just time spent as i don´t put any money other than the faucet, and been experiementing with it... but in the end I really don´t know if they are "provably fair" as statted...

They are legit dude I'm also playing on their site and betting a big amount luckily i've won. They have a provably fair so I think the site is not kind of scam. My tip for you is don't be greedy and be contented that are the keys of winning in most casinos.

[wh04m1]

I think the safe always wins. They don't distribute more than the money their earns. In fact, the values we have entered have no meaning.

They have really high house edge of 5% so basically it means yes there is high chance that they will be earning lot more than what other casino site could earn. This also means there is high probability that each results may favor house/freebitco.in so players will loss more there playing than in any other casino.

They never disclose how much they earn from ads so hard to find out how much % they are giving out for free from what they earn.

Freebitco.in is the worse popular site to gamble in my opinion. Their faucet is good, so the best everyone can do is to withdraw the money earned from faucet and send to another casino to bet. Always that I tried to gamble there I lost really fast. And some strategies there are worthless, as their house edge is too high as you said. I don't know how much income they earn, but if they are alive until and paying, I believe they have a good profit, principally over the Dice game. Many users use their balances earned in faucet to bet, consequently they lose all their balance...

What sites are you using to play gambling other than this site? Do you have any reliable betting sites you can recommend?

[shield132]

As they claim, they are profably fair using a combination of math and cryptography. If you want to verify game result than you can to use 3rd scripts which can verify the game hashes and and calculate the result. As I know that website has this verifying option. But despite provably fair system, chanses are on their side and at last they win.
For more information, read this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provably_fair

[SvenBomvolen]

   I`m using that faucet, and I never one nothing more then lowest possible amount. Did anyone here ever won 10 000 at their site, they have thread here but I dont trust in everything I see there, they can make their own people win.
   Also their lottery is difficult to win, no matter how much tickets I have, I even bought tickets one time and nothing, not even 10 place. Since I had some loses there, I dont use their dices anymore, I just claim faucet and tickets for lotto from them. Personally I dont believe they are provably fair, call it a hunch but one day someone will prove I`m right.

[LTU_btc]

  I`m using that faucet, and I never one nothing more then lowest possible amount. Did anyone here ever won 10 000 at their site, they have thread here but I dont trust in everything I see there, they can make their own people win.
   Also their lottery is difficult to win, no matter how much tickets I have, I even bought tickets one time and nothing, not even 10 place. Since I had some loses there, I dont use their dices anymore, I just claim faucet and tickets for lotto from them. Personally I dont believe they are provably fair, call it a hunch but one day someone will prove I`m right.

There was one lucky guy who rolled 10000 and won $200. I don't know why you are so sceptical about this site.
And lottery is thing of luck. You can buy tickets as much as you want/can, but chances to win is only theorical, because total amount of tickets is very big. Same thing in real life - you can buy lotter ticket whole your life, but no one guarantees that you will win something.
And I can't imagine how you will prove that freebitco.in isn't a fair site.

[BitSat]

I heard is kinda scammy. I don´t really know the mechanics of the thing. But in truth i´ve won a few times, but whenever i keep big ammounts and start to get real money out i end up loosing 18 or 20 times in a row. For me its just time spent as i don´t put any money other than the faucet, and been experiementing with it... but in the end I really don´t know if they are "provably fair" as statted...

They are legit dude I'm also playing on their site and betting a big amount luckily i've won. They have a provably fair so I think the site is not kind of scam. My tip for you is don't be greedy and be contented that are the keys of winning in most casinos.

I agree with you this faucet is legit because its paying for long time and never have any issue about payments op is updating also regularly most of time peoples try to win big amount and lost very quickly so they cry about this but if you use this only for purpose of faucet then its going very good