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January 07, 2017, 03:44:01 PM |
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The Federal office for the protection of the Constitution (counterintelligence) last year revealed the cyber attack on the computer of the Organization for security and cooperation in Europe (OSCE) and sees evidence that the attack was perpetrated by Russia
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daiyuba1971
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January 07, 2017, 04:33:39 PM |
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The Federal office for the protection of the Constitution (counterintelligence) last year revealed the cyber attack on the computer of the Organization for security and cooperation in Europe (OSCE) and sees evidence that the attack was perpetrated by Russia
Russia is very poor country. I hope that all democratic countries will agree on and impose against Russia, the sanctions that this country will disintegrate into several smaller and cease to terrorize the world.
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darkseid1199
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January 07, 2017, 04:43:17 PM |
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Sanctions will have no effect on Russia. The other countries will need Russia's help when it comes to matters in the Security Council.
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January 07, 2017, 08:46:23 PM |
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The Federal office for the protection of the Constitution (counterintelligence) last year revealed the cyber attack on the computer of the Organization for security and cooperation in Europe (OSCE) and sees evidence that the attack was perpetrated by Russia
Russia is very poor country. I hope that all democratic countries will agree on and impose against Russia, the sanctions that this country will disintegrate into several smaller and cease to terrorize the world.I would say out of the big players that Russia has done less harm than most.
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Karloff
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January 07, 2017, 09:59:51 PM |
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Sanctions will have no effect on Russia. The other countries will need Russia's help when it comes to matters in the Security Council.
Why help Russia? I think this country is the enemy. Russian started many wars, provoked the migrant crisis in Europe and continue to organize hacking attacks around the world. I believe that it should not exist.
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MairaObergh
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January 07, 2017, 11:51:34 PM |
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No, because Trump is in power.
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TaunSew
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January 08, 2017, 12:22:26 AM |
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Sanctions will have no effect on Russia. The other countries will need Russia's help when it comes to matters in the Security Council.
Ordinary Russians were already extremely poor. Before the devaluation of currency, many were only making the equivalent of $400 a month and now that has declined. It doesn't really matter if foreign goods become more expensive because the poor were already living off made in Russia products. The rich in Russia, and those who make money off the internet, are not affected. Actually it's normal thing for the rich of any country to want to devalue their own currency. The British elite, especially the ones who had most of their investments in $USD and EUR, made a killing after Brexit. Just like the Mexican and Canadian elites are making fortunes right now with their declining currencies. The whole international system is setup where the working class and middle class person loses every time unless they stay ahead of real estate and currency manipulation. Parking most of your assets in $USD equivalents can help a lot, unless the US dollar loses value but the Petrodollar has survived all attempts of assault so far.
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January 08, 2017, 01:07:34 AM |
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Sanctions will have no effect on Russia. The other countries will need Russia's help when it comes to matters in the Security Council.
Ordinary Russians were already extremely poor. Before the devaluation of currency, many were only making the equivalent of $400 a month and now that has declined. It doesn't really matter if foreign goods become more expensive because the poor were already living off made in Russia products. The rich in Russia, and those who make money off the internet, are not affected. Actually it's normal thing for the rich of any country to want to devalue their own currency. The British elite, especially the ones who had most of their investments in $USD and EUR, made a killing after Brexit. Just like the Mexican and Canadian elites are making fortunes right now with their declining currencies. The whole international system is setup where the working class and middle class person loses every time unless they stay ahead of real estate and currency manipulation. Parking most of your assets in $USD equivalents can help a lot, unless the US dollar loses value but the Petrodollar has survived all attempts of assault so far. Consider Russia for example. Russia, like all countries, is people helping people do things, live and grow. Governments help people to become specialized in their occupation, and then share their work. The sharing is made simple with the tool of money. But what happens when the Government misuses the tool, money? What happens when they don't know how to make it work for them and their people? The people become idle. They stop working. The get drink in their despair. They die. Now, imagine that there is a landowner who gets a bunch of Russian people together to ply their occupations on his land. All the people work, and share their labor and abilities with each other. They share their strengths with the landowner, because he is supplying them with a place to work, and some of the raw materials they need to support life. Barter and Bitcoin take the place of money. When this happens, the Government gets scared. They get scared that a new Government is rising. They send in their armies and destroy those people, people who are simply trying to live. Rather than freedom, there is only death. This is the Russian Government. If they can't make it happen for the people, they won't let anybody else make it happen for the people. Give the people life. Let them live. Down with the Russian Government. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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TicTacTic
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January 08, 2017, 10:48:20 AM |
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Sanctions will have no effect on Russia. The other countries will need Russia's help when it comes to matters in the Security Council.
Ordinary Russians were already extremely poor. Before the devaluation of currency, many were only making the equivalent of $400 a month and now that has declined. It doesn't really matter if foreign goods become more expensive because the poor were already living off made in Russia products. The rich in Russia, and those who make money off the internet, are not affected. Actually it's normal thing for the rich of any country to want to devalue their own currency. The British elite, especially the ones who had most of their investments in $USD and EUR, made a killing after Brexit. Just like the Mexican and Canadian elites are making fortunes right now with their declining currencies. The whole international system is setup where the working class and middle class person loses every time unless they stay ahead of real estate and currency manipulation. Parking most of your assets in $USD equivalents can help a lot, unless the US dollar loses value but the Petrodollar has survived all attempts of assault so far. Consider Russia for example. Russia, like all countries, is people helping people do things, live and grow. Governments help people to become specialized in their occupation, and then share their work. The sharing is made simple with the tool of money. But what happens when the Government misuses the tool, money? What happens when they don't know how to make it work for them and their people? The people become idle. They stop working. The get drink in their despair. They die. Now, imagine that there is a landowner who gets a bunch of Russian people together to ply their occupations on his land. All the people work, and share their labor and abilities with each other. They share their strengths with the landowner, because he is supplying them with a place to work, and some of the raw materials they need to support life. Barter and Bitcoin take the place of money. When this happens, the Government gets scared. They get scared that a new Government is rising. They send in their armies and destroy those people, people who are simply trying to live. Rather than freedom, there is only death. This is the Russian Government. If they can't make it happen for the people, they won't let anybody else make it happen for the people. Give the people life. Let them live. Down with the Russian Government. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Unfortunately, the population of Russia is under the influence of Putin's propaganda. In Russia there is no opposition no opposition to the Kremlin media. They don't know the truth and believe in Putin. Not only in Russia, even in the West, Putin's propaganda cripples the minds of people.
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yugo23
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January 08, 2017, 11:37:16 AM |
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Sanctions will have no effect on Russia. The other countries will need Russia's help when it comes to matters in the Security Council.
Why help Russia? I think this country is the enemy. Russian started many wars, provoked the migrant crisis in Europe and continue to organize hacking attacks around the world. I believe that it should not exist. Russia provoked the migrant crisis? Oo Wut??? USA and Europe are fully responsible for that. Especially considering the numerous attacks and wars started by them in those regions of the world. Why accusing Russia of something they're barely responsible of?
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markj113
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January 08, 2017, 11:41:11 AM |
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Unfortunately, the population of Russia is under the influence of Putin's propaganda. In Russia there is no opposition no opposition to the Kremlin media. They don't know the truth and believe in Putin. Not only in Russia, even in the West, Putin's propaganda cripples the minds of people.
Every population is constantly bombarded with propaganda from their governments. To think otherwise is naive. Sounds like your government has done an excellent job on you ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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TicTacTic
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January 08, 2017, 11:46:10 AM |
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Sanctions will have no effect on Russia. The other countries will need Russia's help when it comes to matters in the Security Council.
Why help Russia? I think this country is the enemy. Russian started many wars, provoked the migrant crisis in Europe and continue to organize hacking attacks around the world. I believe that it should not exist. Russia provoked the migrant crisis? Oo Wut??? USA and Europe are fully responsible for that. Especially considering the numerous attacks and wars started by them in those regions of the world. Why accusing Russia of something they're barely responsible of? Who bombed Aleppo? And who is helping to keep Assad's power against which 80% of Syria's population? It is easy to talk sitting in a chair when your house is bombed. Russia is the aggressor who for the sake of achieving their goals completely destroyed Aleppo.
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January 08, 2017, 11:53:52 AM |
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I suppose the US had no self serving agenda for the below list and it was all done for the good of the people and democracy right ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwikispooks.com%2Fw%2Fimages%2Fthumb%2F6%2F61%2FUS_Bombings_since_1945.jpg%2F440px-US_Bombings_since_1945.jpg&t=665&c=nq75tpCb6hXglw) Every major power will stomp on smaller countries for control of natural resources.
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tracktorr
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January 08, 2017, 12:07:50 PM |
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I suppose the US had no self serving agenda for the below list and it was all done for the good of the people and democracy right ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwikispooks.com%2Fw%2Fimages%2Fthumb%2F6%2F61%2FUS_Bombings_since_1945.jpg%2F440px-US_Bombings_since_1945.jpg&t=665&c=nq75tpCb6hXglw) Every major power will stomp on smaller countries for control of natural resources. Americans are certainly not angels, but everywhere where America controls the situation, people live much better than where control of the situation Russia. Of course war is not without casualties, but compare the number of after America and Russia.
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craked5
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January 08, 2017, 12:31:57 PM |
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I suppose the US had no self serving agenda for the below list and it was all done for the good of the people and democracy right ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwikispooks.com%2Fw%2Fimages%2Fthumb%2F6%2F61%2FUS_Bombings_since_1945.jpg%2F440px-US_Bombings_since_1945.jpg&t=665&c=nq75tpCb6hXglw) Every major power will stomp on smaller countries for control of natural resources. Americans are certainly not angels, but everywhere where America controls the situation, people live much better than where control of the situation Russia. Of course war is not without casualties, but compare the number of after America and Russia. Sure... Between Irak/Afghanistan and Syria it's clear what's better. And USA have nothing to do with Syria of course. Only Russia is responsible here. I would gladly compare the consequences of the two if they were even comparable... Even just by the number of war started USA wins by a fair amount!
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tracktorr
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January 08, 2017, 12:42:53 PM |
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I suppose the US had no self serving agenda for the below list and it was all done for the good of the people and democracy right ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwikispooks.com%2Fw%2Fimages%2Fthumb%2F6%2F61%2FUS_Bombings_since_1945.jpg%2F440px-US_Bombings_since_1945.jpg&t=665&c=nq75tpCb6hXglw) Every major power will stomp on smaller countries for control of natural resources. Americans are certainly not angels, but everywhere where America controls the situation, people live much better than where control of the situation Russia. Of course war is not without casualties, but compare the number of after America and Russia. Sure... Between Irak/Afghanistan and Syria it's clear what's better. And USA have nothing to do with Syria of course. Only Russia is responsible here. I would gladly compare the consequences of the two if they were even comparable... Even just by the number of war started USA wins by a fair amount! Those who say that Russia should be friends let think why Ronald Reagan called Russia the evil Empire. When the Americans defend their interests in other countries will see which side has always been Russian.
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January 08, 2017, 12:49:00 PM |
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Many of the European Union nations (especially France, Germany and Italy) were involved in the NATO invasions of third world countries such as Serbia (1999), Libya (2011), Iraq and Afghanistan. So they don't have the right to blame Russia for getting involved in Ukraine.
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January 08, 2017, 12:52:38 PM |
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Those who say that Russia should be friends let think why Ronald Reagan called Russia the evil Empire. When the Americans defend their interests in other countries will see which side has always been Russian.
Thank you. Here is the explanation of why the USA are the main threat to the world. Because they do defend their interests in other countries. They have a huge will of political interference. Usa takes side, they don't care about destroying entire countries or sacrifying populations to "defend their interests" as you said yourself.
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ovvidiy
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January 08, 2017, 12:58:04 PM |
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Many of the European Union nations (especially France, Germany and Italy) were involved in the NATO invasions of third world countries such as Serbia (1999), Libya (2011), Iraq and Afghanistan. So they don't have the right to blame Russia for getting involved in Ukraine.
Have you tried to ask the Ukrainians if they want to, there was Russia? All who from Russia's neighbors want to on their territory spread Russian influence? Russia is not loved by all. America has shown its weakness of not supporting Ukraine with his troops.
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January 08, 2017, 01:04:27 PM |
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Those who say that Russia should be friends let think why Ronald Reagan called Russia the evil Empire. When the Americans defend their interests in other countries will see which side has always been Russian.
Thank you. Here is the explanation of why the USA are the main threat to the world. Because they do defend their interests in other countries. They have a huge will of political interference. Usa takes side, they don't care about destroying entire countries or sacrifying populations to "defend their interests" as you said yourself. No one denied. Just the interests are different. The Americans improve the living conditions of the population in the country in exchange for loyalty to America and Russia destroying the country so that people were poor because beggars are easier to manage. See the difference?
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