Mike Christ (OP)
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April 12, 2013, 03:53:45 AM |
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Brother just showed me this website, a test he had to take in his highschool government class. It's a load of horseshit; according to this quiz, you can only be a liberal, a conservative, or "post-modernist", which is what both he and I scored. Some of the questions are really cheap, where you have to agree one way or another, even if neither represent how you actually feel. The QuizState school propaganda, of course; according to the state school, there's no such thing as an opposition to the state. There is only a left, and a right. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Mike Christ (OP)
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April 12, 2013, 04:14:17 AM |
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Ha ha no kidding ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Now this is a quiz. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theadvocates.org%2Fimages%2Fbd%2Fquiz%2Fred_dots%2F100_100.gif%3F1364251919&t=665&c=Gj4vaXGNQjfM6A) I think I did pretty well.
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Stardust
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April 12, 2013, 07:34:04 AM |
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Ha ha no kidding ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Now this is a quiz. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theadvocates.org%2Fimages%2Fbd%2Fquiz%2Fred_dots%2F100_100.gif%3F1364251919&t=665&c=Gj4vaXGNQjfM6A) I think I did pretty well. That diamond is old, we need a new political spectrum for the new age. Don't get what I'm hinting at? Think of Zeitgeist/Anarchy/Pirate Party/etc (and no, they can't be truly included in that diamond).
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April 12, 2013, 08:23:36 AM |
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i agree with stardust, there are many things that can not be represented with that test. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theadvocates.org%2Fimages%2Fbd%2Fquiz%2Fred_dots%2F60_40.gif%3F1364251919&t=665&c=JZ5PN4-38v07ZQ)
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"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves and wiser people so full of doubts." -Bertrand Russell
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April 12, 2013, 12:11:26 PM |
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Brother just showed me this website, a test he had to take in his highschool government class. It's a load of horseshit; according to this quiz, you can only be a liberal, a conservative, or "post-modernist", which is what both he and I scored. Some of the questions are really cheap, where you have to agree one way or another, even if neither represent how you actually feel. The QuizState school propaganda, of course; according to the state school, there's no such thing as an opposition to the state. There is only a left, and a right. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Based on your responses, YOU are a… Libertarian Along with 9% of the public
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myrkul
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April 13, 2013, 12:39:19 AM |
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If by "comprehensive," you mean obnoxiously long, then you're spot on.
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April 13, 2013, 08:55:55 PM |
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Ha ha no kidding ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Now this is a quiz. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theadvocates.org%2Fimages%2Fbd%2Fquiz%2Fred_dots%2F100_100.gif%3F1364251919&t=665&c=Gj4vaXGNQjfM6A) I think I did pretty well. That diamond is old, we need a new political spectrum for the new age. Don't get what I'm hinting at? Think of Zeitgeist/Anarchy/Pirate Party/etc (and no, they can't be truly included in that diamond). All of those can be well accommodated for. Zeitgiest is far bottom, Anarchy is far top, Pirate Party is about half way between the middle and top and very liberal.
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kokjo
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April 14, 2013, 04:36:20 PM |
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Ha ha no kidding ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Now this is a quiz. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theadvocates.org%2Fimages%2Fbd%2Fquiz%2Fred_dots%2F100_100.gif%3F1364251919&t=665&c=Gj4vaXGNQjfM6A) I think I did pretty well. That diamond is old, we need a new political spectrum for the new age. Don't get what I'm hinting at? Think of Zeitgeist/Anarchy/Pirate Party/etc (and no, they can't be truly included in that diamond). All of those can be well accommodated for. Zeitgiest is far bottom, Anarchy is far top, Pirate Party is about half way between the middle and top and very liberal. no. the pirate party would be totally independent of the economic axis, some pirates would be in the top, some in the bottom.
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"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves and wiser people so full of doubts." -Bertrand Russell
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myrkul
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April 14, 2013, 04:49:40 PM |
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Ha ha no kidding ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Now this is a quiz. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theadvocates.org%2Fimages%2Fbd%2Fquiz%2Fred_dots%2F100_100.gif%3F1364251919&t=665&c=Gj4vaXGNQjfM6A) I think I did pretty well. That diamond is old, we need a new political spectrum for the new age. Don't get what I'm hinting at? Think of Zeitgeist/Anarchy/Pirate Party/etc (and no, they can't be truly included in that diamond). All of those can be well accommodated for. Zeitgiest is far bottom, Anarchy is far top, Pirate Party is about half way between the middle and top and very liberal. no. the pirate party would be totally independent of the economic axis, some pirates would be in the top, some in the bottom. Did you take the quiz, or are you basing your opinions solely from that graph?
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kokjo
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April 14, 2013, 04:53:52 PM |
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Ha ha no kidding ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Now this is a quiz. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theadvocates.org%2Fimages%2Fbd%2Fquiz%2Fred_dots%2F100_100.gif%3F1364251919&t=665&c=Gj4vaXGNQjfM6A) I think I did pretty well. That diamond is old, we need a new political spectrum for the new age. Don't get what I'm hinting at? Think of Zeitgeist/Anarchy/Pirate Party/etc (and no, they can't be truly included in that diamond). All of those can be well accommodated for. Zeitgiest is far bottom, Anarchy is far top, Pirate Party is about half way between the middle and top and very liberal. no. the pirate party would be totally independent of the economic axis, some pirates would be in the top, some in the bottom. Did you take the quiz, or are you basing your opinions solely from that graph? i took it, i am a centrist. and im basing my opinion my knowledge of the pirate party, they don't really care about the economic in general, as long as they can get music and movies for free. pirates are stretch all over the economic axis.
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Mike Christ (OP)
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April 14, 2013, 05:03:46 PM |
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The Pirate Party is a single issue party, so they're really not going to fit anywhere on a political typology quiz ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) But if I had to guess, since they're anti-copyright, they're gonna lean closer to the top.
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myrkul
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April 14, 2013, 05:08:20 PM |
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and im basing my opinion my knowledge of the pirate party, they don't really care about the economic in general, as long as they can get music and movies for free. pirates are stretch all over the economic axis.
Valid point. As a single-issue party, it's likely they'll wander all over the top quadrant.
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April 14, 2013, 09:54:44 PM |
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If by "comprehensive," you mean obnoxiously long, then you're spot on. It takes less than five minutes and conveys the nuances of political typology much more clearly than the obnoxiously simplistic diamond in this thread. Really it was a response to Stardust - That diamond is old, we need a new political spectrum for the new age. Don't get what I'm hinting at? Think of Zeitgeist/Anarchy/Pirate Party/etc (and no, they can't be truly included in that diamond).
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Ekaros
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April 14, 2013, 10:07:49 PM |
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myrkul
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April 14, 2013, 10:36:57 PM |
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Liberal that is: ID cards was one point I disagreed with...
On the other one I ended up as Solid Liberal...
Wait, so you: Approve of Corporate bailouts Approve of Trade tariffs Approve of Social security (that one's kind of a given) Disapprove of Private charity and want bigger government spending?
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Ekaros
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April 14, 2013, 10:42:02 PM Last edit: April 14, 2013, 10:57:44 PM by Ekaros |
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Liberal that is: ID cards was one point I disagreed with...
On the other one I ended up as Solid Liberal...
Wait, so you: Approve of Corporate bailouts Approve of Trade tariffs Approve of Social security (that one's kind of a given) Disapprove of Private charity and want bigger government spending? Yes, in some cases. All of those are beneficial in moderation. It's really about balance. All of the options are rather extreme in my mind. Government is doing things badly, but I don't think they shouldn't be done. On topics: New companies should receive some support if they are viable. Also some support or tax credit for research and development isn't bad. Depends on general tax rate though. There is some need to protect inner market, for certain products. We aren't yet in global world peace... Given... Not that I'm against private charity, but it should come after social security. 50% cut is too drastic, there is certain cuts needed but 50% is way too much.
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myrkul
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April 14, 2013, 11:14:52 PM |
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Liberal that is: ID cards was one point I disagreed with...
On the other one I ended up as Solid Liberal...
Wait, so you: Approve of Corporate bailouts Approve of Trade tariffs Approve of Social security (that one's kind of a given) Disapprove of Private charity and want bigger government spending? Yes, in some cases. All of those are beneficial in moderation. It's really about balance. All of the options are rather extreme in my mind. Government is doing things badly, but I don't think they shouldn't be done. Government does everything badly. It's a monopoly. Monopolies always give the worst service for the highest price. On topics: New companies should receive some support if they are viable. Also some support or tax credit for research and development isn't bad. Depends on general tax rate though. If they are viable, they don't need support. And support for R&D can be done privately. There is some need to protect inner market, for certain products. We aren't yet in global world peace... Protectionism doesn't work. For every job saved in one industry, you're costing your own economy 2-3 in others. Think about it. Given... Not that I'm against private charity, but it should come after social security. Kinda the point isn't it? "I already gave at the office." Take away social security, and people will have more to give. 50% cut is too drastic, there is certain cuts needed but 50% is way too much.
It's not even remotely enough. Here in the US, we could reduce our budget 50%, entirely from the military budget, and still be spending more on the military than any other country.
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April 15, 2013, 08:21:37 AM |
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Government does everything badly. It's a monopoly. Monopolies always give the worst service for the highest price.
wrong. The government is for the people by the people, and people have absolutely no interest in providing bad service.
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"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves and wiser people so full of doubts." -Bertrand Russell
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