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January 08, 2017, 06:28:37 AM
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Why does it keep going up and down ?

It was 2-3500k rs above market rate a few days ago .... now its 100$ +
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January 09, 2017, 11:12:19 AM
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Why does it keep going up and down ?

It was 2-3500k rs above market rate a few days ago .... now its 100$ +
Bitcoin price have always been very volatile.Earlier the fluctuations were in low range but now it fluctuates in wider range.
It is difficult to pinpoint exact reason but mostly it is manipulated by big whales.

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January 09, 2017, 11:24:40 AM
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Why does it keep going up and down ?

It was 2-3500k rs above market rate a few days ago .... now its 100$ +
Bitcoin price have always been very volatile.Earlier the fluctuations were in low range but now it fluctuates in wider range.
It is difficult to pinpoint exact reason but mostly it is manipulated by big whales.

Certainly if you see even before a month price difference was on higher side. But in between it was getting back to normal and again this is zooming . Also it seems to be due to China that the price was fallen from 1000+ to now 900$ approx per btc. Not sure if this will cross 1000$ in coming time or not.
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January 09, 2017, 03:22:52 PM
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That moment when you switch tabs and BTC prices went up $100. I literally went numb for a minute as to how it could rise so quickly within a span of 5 minutes. But it indeed had happened and had to believe it.
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January 09, 2017, 05:33:12 PM
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That moment when you switch tabs and BTC prices went up $100. I literally went numb for a minute as to how it could rise so quickly within a span of 5 minutes. But it indeed had happened and had to believe it.

Lol even you don't know what is OP talking about. You just commented without understanding or knowing.


Every country there is some premium or discount in regards to international price. Indian big trader thinks price will go up again so they are ready to buy @premium.

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January 11, 2017, 08:51:34 AM
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That moment when you switch tabs and BTC prices went up $100. I literally went numb for a minute as to how it could rise so quickly within a span of 5 minutes. But it indeed had happened and had to believe it.

Lol even you don't know what is OP talking about. You just commented without understanding or knowing.


Every country there is some premium or discount in regards to international price. Indian big trader thinks price will go up again so they are ready to buy @premium.

Yes... and bitcoin price is 62k INR according to market rate.

Yet in exchanges and indian market for selling it is 67 and buying 67.5k .

Looks to me some people whaling price fixing of btc in India.
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January 12, 2017, 07:33:06 PM
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Why does it keep going up and down ?

It was 2-3500k rs above market rate a few days ago .... now its 100$ +

This is the only fineness Bitcoin consists, that anyone can decide any rates and can sell them at whatever price they want.
We here in India, have set our own rates after demonetization, so I think that the price will surely fluctuate a lot the upcoming days until everything gets settled down here.
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January 13, 2017, 08:00:09 AM
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As per official statements from Zebpay, reason for differences in market price and their prices :

Following quote is from their site's article[1]:
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Bitcoin price fluctuations on the bitcoin exchanges are driven by many factors. Below you will find the answers to the questions related to bitcoin price that is most often asked by our users:

What factors determine bitcoin prices?

Bitcoin prices depend on a lot of factors like international prices, market volatility, overall demand and supply in India and Zebpay’s internal stock position.

Why is there a difference in Indian price and international price?

At times, the Indian prices, both buy and sell prices, are 5-10 % higher than international market. This happens when there is high demand for bitcoins in India and sellers are not ready to sell cheap. Similarly, there are days when Indian prices, again both buy and sell prices, are lower than the international market.

It is important to note that, even in the international market at times, there is 5% gap between China and USA price and there are price gaps even within USA exchanges.

How do we get assured that Zebpay provides a fair price?

Zebpay works hard to ensure our users get best rates in India compared to other exchanges and trading platforms. We try to keep thin spreads and have implemented smart price algorithms which control and determine best prices based on both external and internal factors.

We understand the anxiety in the mind of a user when he finds bitcoin prices on Zebpay exchange different from international prices, but please be rest assured we do everything possible to keep prices as close to international markets as possible.
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[1]  http://support.zebpay.com/hc/en-us/articles/208927629-Why-there-is-a-difference-in-Indian-price-and-international-price-



For unocoin their faq covers this point to some extent: [2]
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How do you determine bitcoin price in INR? And why are Unocoin prices occasionally different to other international exchanges?
At Unocoin, the price is calculated based on the bitcoin to USD exchange rate taken from various credible exchanges and its own orders. The main factors that influence its value are: The current USD to INR exchange, market fluctuations and most importantly the demand/supply of bitcoin. Every trading platform offers a buyer's price and a seller's price in order to meet (may not be the same across exchanges). In India we have seen this meeting price to be more than the international exchanges as the supply of bitcoin in India is comparatively limited. In a way every exchange is independent of each other and when there is a vast difference in prices between them there will always be speculators looking to make an arbitrage which consequently brings the rates more or less in sync with other exchanges. On some trading websites like Unocoin that is specific to a country (India), making a global arbitrage almost impossible. Hence it takes longer for its prices to sync with other international exchanges when there is a sudden spike or drop in bitcoin prices.
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[2] https://www.unocoin.com/faq
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January 19, 2017, 07:11:05 PM
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Why is there a difference in Indian price and international price?

At times, the Indian prices, both buy and sell prices, are 5-10 % higher than international market. This happens when there is high demand for bitcoins in India and sellers are not ready to sell cheap. Similarly, there are days when Indian prices, again both buy and sell prices, are lower than the international market.

It is important to note that, even in the international market at times, there is 5% gap between China and USA price and there are price gaps even within USA exchanges.

-snip-

This is what I want to make everyone understand whenever I try to explain anyone about bitcoins.
Still, global arbitrage opportunities are not available to us as most of the International exchanges are not allowing Indian users to buy bitcoins at their websites, and the ones who are allowing are charging even higher rates than what we are getting them here for. Wire transfers are also costly, so thinking about arbitrage opportunities currently would only make us lose more than gain.
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