Need 0.015 loans to test new gambling method

[RajaJudi]

I have just sold all my Bitcoin when its price hit $1100. Currently there aren't any bitcoin left in my wallet so I am asking for a loan

Username:RajaJudi
Rank:full member
Amount to be loaned:0.015
Repayment amount:0.017
Repayment Date:12/01/2017
Bitcoin Address: 1L753davFte1HDGMZhqhRuy8juAV9rPE9x
Collateral: my account

Sign message can be found here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.msg16946212#msg16946212

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-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am RajaJudi and I'm asking for 0.02 loans
Thanks in advance
Right now is 7:20pm UTC+7
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IDGD2UDNGrJymxINBLV2QBGVTZ2IjVU/c1fixVA11pdAtEHRMI03CVItIuumN2hdUS4zM7VXnPnh5th8ETZjBGY=
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[0x0010]

I'm curious.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=824043;sa=showPosts;start=80

How come after 6 pages of games and rounds post, you suddenly start posting actual posts and staked an address?

[RajaJudi]

I'm curious.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=824043;sa=showPosts;start=80

How come after 6 pages of games and rounds post, you suddenly start posting actual posts and staked an address?

games and round promo does not worth anymore. I have learnt more thing come from trading and signature campaign. I have joint many of games but I could only win a little
 Thanks for asking this question

[youdamushi]

Don't take accounts as collateral. They will be tagged.
Forum policy is clearly leaning toward not allowing multiple accounts and selling of accounts.
Not that it's forbidden but it's just that members on DT list want to stop accounts traffic.

[RajaJudi]

Don't take accounts as collateral. They will be tagged.
Forum policy is clearly leaning toward not allowing multiple accounts and selling of accounts.
Not that it's forbidden but it's just that members on DT list want to stop accounts traffic.

WTF ? what are you saying?

[tifossi]

So you sold all your bitcoins at a high price, thi means you have enough money. You can easily buy new bitcoins with your huge profit. Why don't you buy new abitcoins?

[Starlightbreaker]

Don't take accounts as collateral. They will be tagged.
Forum policy is clearly leaning toward not allowing multiple accounts and selling of accounts.
Not that it's forbidden but it's just that members on DT list want to stop accounts traffic.

WTF ? what are you saying?

Some members tag the account even if you repay your loan.
ofc some lenders take accounts and they consider them as valid collateral.

The thing is that you want to take a loan for gambling,so if you loose you will default...

[RajaJudi]

So you sold all your bitcoins at a high price, thi means you have enough money. You can easily buy new bitcoins with your huge profit. Why don't you buy new abitcoins?

I think it is not a good way to buy Bitcoin right now because the prices can drop in anytime, as well as other cryptos. Buying small amount ? no way, the fee will be too high.

Don't take accounts as collateral. They will be tagged.
Forum policy is clearly leaning toward not allowing multiple accounts and selling of accounts.
Not that it's forbidden but it's just that members on DT list want to stop accounts traffic.

WTF ? what are you saying?

Some members tag the account even if you repay your loan.
ofc some lenders take accounts and they consider them as valid collateral.

The thing is that you want to take a loan for gambling,so if you loose you will default...

Well, I can handle to buy back some Bitcoin..........

[kynaz]

is this risk? 

[xinzark]

Sign message can be found here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.msg16946212#msg16946212

Code:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am RajaJudi and I'm asking for 0.02 loans
Thanks in advance
Right now is 7:20pm UTC+7
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
IDGD2UDNGrJymxINBLV2QBGVTZ2IjVU/c1fixVA11pdAtEHRMI03CVItIuumN2hdUS4zM7VXnPnh5th8ETZjBGY=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

I can't verify this message. Looks like this message is signed from 15uck2coCkhVrXqmqfhD7zbEYLwm7hjiXb
Not from the address OP had staked and mentioned
Could you please post the signed message again. Don't forget to include today's date as well

[condoras]

So you sold all your bitcoins at a high price, thi means you have enough money. You can easily buy new bitcoins with your huge profit. Why don't you buy new abitcoins?

I think it is not a good way to buy Bitcoin right now because the prices can drop in anytime, as well as other cryptos. Buying small amount ? no way, the fee will be too high.

Don't take accounts as collateral. They will be tagged.
Forum policy is clearly leaning toward not allowing multiple accounts and selling of accounts.
Not that it's forbidden but it's just that members on DT list want to stop accounts traffic.

WTF ? what are you saying?

Some members tag the account even if you repay your loan.
ofc some lenders take accounts and they consider them as valid collateral.

The thing is that you want to take a loan for gambling,so if you loose you will default...

Well, I can handle to buy back some Bitcoin..........

I can't verify it either.
I can fill this Loan for your Account as Collateral, post on my Thread if you wish.
With a new signed message ofc...

[RajaJudi]

I can't verify it either.
I can fill this Loan for your Account as Collateral, post on my Thread if you wish.
With a new signed message ofc...

I can't verify this message. Looks like this message is signed from 15uck2coCkhVrXqmqfhD7zbEYLwm7hjiXb
Not from the address OP had staked and mentioned
Could you please post the signed message again. Don't forget to include today's date as well

http://coinig.com/?adr=1L753davFte1HDGMZhqhRuy8juAV9rPE9x&msg=I+am+RajaJudi+and+I%27m+asking+for+0.02+loans%0D%0AThanks+in+advance%0D%0ARight+now+is+7%3A20pm+UTC%2B7&sig=IDGD2UDNGrJymxINBLV2QBGVTZ2IjVU%2Fc1fixVA11pdAtEHRMI03CVItIuumN2hdUS4zM7VXnPnh5th8ETZjBGY%3D

This link said that it has been verified. Can you guys please check them again

[youdamushi]

Don't take accounts as collateral. They will be tagged.
Forum policy is clearly leaning toward not allowing multiple accounts and selling of accounts.
Not that it's forbidden but it's just that members on DT list want to stop accounts traffic.

WTF ? what are you saying?

I'm saying that numerous members, including Lauda and Luptin if I remember well, are against selling accounts. So they tag in red every account that get sold.
And a negative rated account is worth nothing or close to nothing.

[Bitcoin_Delivery]

So you sold all your bitcoins at a high price, thi means you have enough money. You can easily buy new bitcoins with your huge profit. Why don't you buy new abitcoins?

Totally agree with you, he sold all his bitcoin and also if he can use his profit, instead he is now asking for a loan.
Sound really strange and unexplicable to me why he don't want to risk to buy back BTC again because the price could drop down, instead he want to risk loaned funds to test new gambling methods...
Ah...maybe because is easier to risk funds that are not yours instead to test new ways gamble your own money 

[ranochigo]

Don't take accounts as collateral. They will be tagged.
Forum policy is clearly leaning toward not allowing multiple accounts and selling of accounts.
Not that it's forbidden but it's just that members on DT list want to stop accounts traffic.

WTF ? what are you saying?

I'm saying that numerous members, including Lauda and Luptin if I remember well, are against selling accounts. So they tag in red every account that get sold.
And a negative rated account is worth nothing or close to nothing.

That's true.

But what is bothering me a lot is that you just started making constructive posts 2 months ago, everything else wasn't constructive by any standards. No one would be interested in purchasing this account if this gets sold in the future, not much assurance for the lender.

[RajaJudi]

Don't take accounts as collateral. They will be tagged.
Forum policy is clearly leaning toward not allowing multiple accounts and selling of accounts.
Not that it's forbidden but it's just that members on DT list want to stop accounts traffic.

WTF ? what are you saying?

I'm saying that numerous members, including Lauda and Luptin if I remember well, are against selling accounts. So they tag in red every account that get sold.
And a negative rated account is worth nothing or close to nothing.

That's true.

But what is bothering me a lot is that you just started making constructive posts 2 months ago, everything else wasn't constructive by any standards. No one would be interested in purchasing this account if this gets sold in the future, not much assurance for the lender.

But my account is not for sale so I believe I won't get any negative trust.

[ranochigo]

Don't take accounts as collateral. They will be tagged.
Forum policy is clearly leaning toward not allowing multiple accounts and selling of accounts.
Not that it's forbidden but it's just that members on DT list want to stop accounts traffic.

WTF ? what are you saying?

I'm saying that numerous members, including Lauda and Luptin if I remember well, are against selling accounts. So they tag in red every account that get sold.
And a negative rated account is worth nothing or close to nothing.

That's true.

But what is bothering me a lot is that you just started making constructive posts 2 months ago, everything else wasn't constructive by any standards. No one would be interested in purchasing this account if this gets sold in the future, not much assurance for the lender.

But my account is not for sale so I believe I won't get any negative trust.

It will be, if you default. You would probably get tagged if you default it and the lender would lose out.

That is, without factoring in your sub-par post history. The lender would be left with a worthless account if you default.

Lets look at my investigation shall we? (This is just for reference, it isn't a concrete evidence).
You changed your password on November 15, 2016, 11:08:02 PM.
You started filling your posts with long sentences on November 18, 2016.
You decided to stake an address on November 22, 2016.
You edited a post that contains your address on 20 November: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1602397.msg16589200#msg16589200.

[RajaJudi]

Don't take accounts as collateral. They will be tagged.
Forum policy is clearly leaning toward not allowing multiple accounts and selling of accounts.
Not that it's forbidden but it's just that members on DT list want to stop accounts traffic.

WTF ? what are you saying?

I'm saying that numerous members, including Lauda and Luptin if I remember well, are against selling accounts. So they tag in red every account that get sold.
And a negative rated account is worth nothing or close to nothing.

That's true.

But what is bothering me a lot is that you just started making constructive posts 2 months ago, everything else wasn't constructive by any standards. No one would be interested in purchasing this account if this gets sold in the future, not much assurance for the lender.

But my account is not for sale so I believe I won't get any negative trust.

It will be, if you default. You would probably get tagged if you default it and the lender would lose out.

That is, without factoring in your sub-par post history. The lender would be left with a worthless account if you default.

Lets look at my investigation shall we? (This is just for reference, it isn't a concrete evidence).
You changed your password on November 15, 2016, 11:08:02 PM.
You started filling your posts with long sentences on November 18, 2016.
You decided to stake an address on November 22, 2016.
You edited a post that contains your address on 20 November: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1602397.msg16589200#msg16589200.

I understand how awesome the signature campaign can be so I decide to make a few change in my post quality. I changed my password because I think it would make my account more secure. I am using facebook and I always change my password every two months and I find it is useful to me. Since Bitcointalk does not have phone verification for every login, I think changing password and making a stake address will prevent hackers from stealing my account.

[youdamushi]

Don't take accounts as collateral. They will be tagged.
Forum policy is clearly leaning toward not allowing multiple accounts and selling of accounts.
Not that it's forbidden but it's just that members on DT list want to stop accounts traffic.

WTF ? what are you saying?

I'm saying that numerous members, including Lauda and Luptin if I remember well, are against selling accounts. So they tag in red every account that get sold.
And a negative rated account is worth nothing or close to nothing.

That's true.

But what is bothering me a lot is that you just started making constructive posts 2 months ago, everything else wasn't constructive by any standards. No one would be interested in purchasing this account if this gets sold in the future, not much assurance for the lender.

But my account is not for sale so I believe I won't get any negative trust.

It will be, if you default. You would probably get tagged if you default it and the lender would lose out.

That is, without factoring in your sub-par post history. The lender would be left with a worthless account if you default.

Lets look at my investigation shall we? (This is just for reference, it isn't a concrete evidence).
You changed your password on November 15, 2016, 11:08:02 PM.
You started filling your posts with long sentences on November 18, 2016.
You decided to stake an address on November 22, 2016.
You edited a post that contains your address on 20 November: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1602397.msg16589200#msg16589200.

I understand how awesome the signature campaign can be so I decide to make a few change in my post quality. I changed my password because I think it would make my account more secure. I am using facebook and I always change my password every two months and I find it is useful to me. Since Bitcointalk does not have phone verification for every login, I think changing password and making a stake address will prevent hackers from stealing my account.

As ranochigo said, all this is just for the debate, nobody is accusing you of anything saying all those informations are concrete evidences.
Fact is that it's possible that you actually did all that for very good reason. And no one is banning you or whatever like this.
But you're asking for a loan, which means that someone would have to engage his money on how much he trusts you... And the problem here is that all what you did might be for excellent reasons but it's not really building trust. There would also be a serious possibility of you trying to get a loan and default it as a way of selling your account.
It's like when you go to the bank for a loan, you can go in bicycle without any wages records and with holes in your jeans. Or you can go in a suit with 2 years of solid references. One of the two will get a loan, the other will only get a refusal.
Same thing here. Doesn't matter how right you are, what matters is how strong we can believe you're right.
And same thing for Lauda by the way, he's put a neg trust on you not because he wants to accuse you of scamming or something like that. Just because he doesn't believe you can be trusted enough to get a loan. And fact is that Lauda's opinion weights here (especially as a DT member).

But if you close your loan thread and politely ask Lauda he might think about removing his trust rating and you might continue to enjoy the forum as a normal user (see how I bold the "might" ^^)
If that's what you want of course.

[knightkon]

This account is not valid collateral for the loan you are requesting.  Unless you can put up another form of collateral, please lock this thread and move on.  Just to confirm, valid collateral is something that can be sold for 120% of the value of the loan you are requesting.