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January 08, 2017, 04:51:10 PM
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Can we expect any significant rise in the price of Ethereum or not? There has been a lot of negative publicity and sometimes it seems that the coin is just slowly dying. Is that true?
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January 08, 2017, 05:32:59 PM
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Can we expect any significant rise in the price of Ethereum or not? There has been a lot of negative publicity and sometimes it seems that the coin is just slowly dying. Is that true?


It's impossible to know... by looking at the all time graph, you can see how the all time high is far now, since 2 years the coin has been stagnating. Then we recently saw the 0.008 bottom. Question is, is this really a bottom, or is this another fake pump and it will keep stagnating under 0.008? your guess.
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January 08, 2017, 06:19:17 PM
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maybe when they change the block reward, they said that miners are the reason for this dumping, if they lower the reward the price can recover, how much true this will be is yet to be seen, for me etheruem dead from the moment vitalik sold his coins, not because of the dumping but because of the move he did with his project, selling like this only mean for me "i dumped my early coin now i'm done i don't care what will happen"

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January 08, 2017, 07:12:49 PM
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Do you seriously think that you will get an answer to your question?
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January 08, 2017, 07:24:57 PM
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January 08, 2017, 08:20:53 PM
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Do you seriously think that you will get an answer to your question?
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Well, I was asking more about the reputability of the coin. I know that no-one can tell what value will Ethereum have in for example 2018, however, there are usually some signs. Like if the altcoin has some development problems or is overhyped. I'm new to altcoins, however, I heard about the DAOhack and some folks on this forum are saying that ETH is basically dead, so are those assumptions true?
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January 08, 2017, 11:03:17 PM
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Do you seriously think that you will get an answer to your question?
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Well, I was asking more about the reputability of the coin. I know that no-one can tell what value will Ethereum have in for example 2018, however, there are usually some signs. Like if the altcoin has some development problems or is overhyped. I'm new to altcoins, however, I heard about the DAOhack and some folks on this forum are saying that ETH is basically dead, so are those assumptions true?
As you can see, ETH is not dead at all. As long as it has hashpower, developer team and it's not delisted from exchanges, its alive.
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January 08, 2017, 11:39:21 PM
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It id difficult to tell whether the coin will has a significant rise, there are a lot of bad publicity of ETH, the hardfork that happened really significantly decreasing the numbers of investor, but even though like that, ETH still one of the alt coin with the highest transaction number, so it is really hard to predict what will happen with ETH, but I will think twice if somebody suggest me to invest in ETH


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January 08, 2017, 11:54:42 PM
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I was going to invest in trading some btc for some of this because I saw it listed to buy on many exchanges for a substantial value of them.
But now not anymore. Undecided

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January 09, 2017, 12:28:05 AM
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I have been tempted to buy some from coinbase. I just don't see what separates it from bitcoin.
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January 09, 2017, 12:58:12 AM
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January 09, 2017, 01:41:18 AM
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The more I listen to the comments about Ethereum and Vitalik from the known people of bitcoin like Peter Todd and others, the more I am pessimistic about its future. Last year no one would dare think that Vitalik is a scammer. Now some have been slowly thinking that he is a dreamer or a con artist. Take your pick.

There were many warning signs about Ethereum:

1. Original IPO in Canada was cancelled and they all fled to Switzerland (which always has been a place for shady things, regardless of its' high level of development) and registered an office in Uganda.  

2. Gavin Wood claimed to be a video game developer and yet his name showed up almost nowhere on the internet.  Video games always have credits.  PhD was in Philosophy and his last employer was a DJ-Audio company which went bankrupt like 2 weeks before he announced Ethereum.  Ethereum looks like something he just YOLO'ed to pay the rent.

3. Everyone was claiming Vitalik was some programming genius, when the only thing he ever did before was travel the world on his father's dime (Dmitry Buterin makes $50 million a year through his website Apricot) and edited a few Bitcoin articles.  

Also Vitalik says he was programming Ethereum but this was at a time when he was always traveling around the world attending conventions.  I think people were ghostwriting code in his name.

4. There were a bunch of ex. Goldman Sachs employees and, when you read their linkedin, looks like they hadn't had a real job in like 10 years.

5. Vitalik claiming he would create his own programming language, when previous programming languages usually took a good 10 years to get into working order, stomp out the bugs and train people to code in the language.


After launch, the Ethereum foundation was pretty much weeks away from running out of cash until Ethereum mooned up to $1 billion and Vitalik made a ton of money, and I'm sure this broke securities law, when he was able to speculate on ETC and BTC value (BTC value tanked and spiked because of the volume going into Ethereum at times) and likely insider trading with subsequent Ethereum activity and DAO. 


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January 09, 2017, 01:42:23 AM
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The more I listen to the comments about Ethereum and Vitalik from the known people of bitcoin like Peter Todd and others, the more I am pessimistic about its future. Last year no one would dare think that Vitalik is a scammer. Now some have been slowly thinking that he is a dreamer or a con artist. Take your pick.

The newest update about the ethereum foundation and UEA.... Does it give an optimism effect? But the fork was happening with the ethereum platform are being the critical hit for them.

Will PoS give back the trust? Just see it.   Cheesy

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January 09, 2017, 01:46:35 AM
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Lots of negativity here.

I'm cautiously bullish on Ethereum technology.

If they pull off proof-of-stake, that will be a huge boost.

That's why I'm investing a small amount (but not too much). The time to get in is now, not when PoS has been completed and pushed.
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January 09, 2017, 01:47:06 AM
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The more I listen to the comments about Ethereum and Vitalik from the known people of bitcoin like Peter Todd and others, the more I am pessimistic about its future. Last year no one would dare think that Vitalik is a scammer. Now some have been slowly thinking that he is a dreamer or a con artist. Take your pick.



3. Everyone was claiming Vitalik was some programming genius, when the only thing he ever did before was travel the world on his father's dime (Dmitry Buterin makes $50 million a year through his website Apricot) and edited a few Bitcoin articles.  
Also Vitalik says he was programming Ethereum but this was at a time when he was always traveling around the world attending conventions.  I think people were ghostwriting code in his name.
5. Vitalik claiming he would create his own programming language, when previous programming languages usually took a good 10 years to get into working order, stomp out the bugs and train people to code in the language.



In the name of god, I was feeling doubtfully with it.

As I was opening my tweeter the Vitalik Butter has to update his photos in the various places. It seems like he is a traveller and not a programmer.  Cheesy Cheesy

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January 09, 2017, 01:49:33 AM
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Can we expect any significant rise in the price of Ethereum or not? There has been a lot of negative publicity and sometimes it seems that the coin is just slowly dying. Is that true?


It's impossible to know... by looking at the all time graph, you can see how the all time high is far now, since 2 years the coin has been stagnating. Then we recently saw the 0.008 bottom. Question is, is this really a bottom, or is this another fake pump and it will keep stagnating under 0.008? your guess.
Mm, I doubt it has much of a future.  Last time I checked the price, it was above 0.008, and if it's dumped since then, that's definitely not a good sign.  Why should it even have a future?  It has an extremely checkered past, with the hack and the hype and everything else.  There are so many other altcoins on the exchanges that if you need to buy anything besides bitcoin, you'll have a hard time just browsing through what's out there.  So yeah, I think it's dying a slow death.  And deservedly so.
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Last edit: January 09, 2017, 02:05:39 AM by TaunSew
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The more I listen to the comments about Ethereum and Vitalik from the known people of bitcoin like Peter Todd and others, the more I am pessimistic about its future. Last year no one would dare think that Vitalik is a scammer. Now some have been slowly thinking that he is a dreamer or a con artist. Take your pick.



3. Everyone was claiming Vitalik was some programming genius, when the only thing he ever did before was travel the world on his father's dime (Dmitry Buterin makes $50 million a year through his website Apricot) and edited a few Bitcoin articles.  
Also Vitalik says he was programming Ethereum but this was at a time when he was always traveling around the world attending conventions.  I think people were ghostwriting code in his name.
5. Vitalik claiming he would create his own programming language, when previous programming languages usually took a good 10 years to get into working order, stomp out the bugs and train people to code in the language.



In the name of god, I was feeling doubtfully with it.

As I was opening my tweeter the Vitalik Butter has to update his photos in the various places. It seems like he is a traveller and not a programmer.  Cheesy Cheesy

I forget where he's sharing his travel photos but he has been uploading them somewhere.  Some of them are pretty cringe worthy.  There was a photo of some Ukrainian women in national outfit at the airport who were just cringing and didn't want to be near him.  There was also the one where he was hanging out in Malaysia, near a public-transit line and looking like a slob with a hunched-over head, and people were photo shopping it.

I've talked to many people who showed up to conventions, met Vitalik Buterin and they notice in a few seconds just how weird that guy is.

Some think he might be a gifted autistic but more likely he's just an idiot savant with weird mannerism, who can do techie talk, but his big advantage was being forward and his father's money allowing him to travel / network nonstop.

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January 09, 2017, 02:03:17 AM
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The more I listen to the comments about Ethereum and Vitalik from the known people of bitcoin like Peter Todd and others, the more I am pessimistic about its future. Last year no one would dare think that Vitalik is a scammer. Now some have been slowly thinking that he is a dreamer or a con artist. Take your pick.



3. Everyone was claiming Vitalik was some programming genius, when the only thing he ever did before was travel the world on his father's dime (Dmitry Buterin makes $50 million a year through his website Apricot) and edited a few Bitcoin articles.  
Also Vitalik says he was programming Ethereum but this was at a time when he was always traveling around the world attending conventions.  I think people were ghostwriting code in his name.
5. Vitalik claiming he would create his own programming language, when previous programming languages usually took a good 10 years to get into working order, stomp out the bugs and train people to code in the language.



In the name of god, I was feeling doubtfully with it.

As I was opening my tweeter the Vitalik Butter has to update his photos in the various places. It seems like he is a traveller and not a programmer.  Cheesy Cheesy

I forget where he's sharing his travel photos but he has been uploading them somewhere.  Some of them are pretty cringe worthy.  There was a photo of some Ukrainian women in national outfit at the airport who were just cringing and didn't want to be near him.  There was also the one where he was hanging out in Malaysia, near a public-transit line and looking like a slob with a hunched-over head, and people were photo shopping it.

I've talked to many people who showed up to conventions, met Vitalik Buterin and they notice in a few seconds just how weird that guy is.

Some think he might be a gifted autistic but more likely he's just an idiot savant with weird mannerism, who can do techie talk, but his big advantage was being forward and his father's money allowing him to travel / network nonstop.


This is an example

https://twitter.com/BlockchainStorm

it's why the people were saying he was a strange guy.  Cheesy

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January 09, 2017, 02:05:09 AM
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Only Eth Classic has a chance. Eth hardfork  is affected by corruption from Vitalii Buterin and his companions
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January 09, 2017, 02:13:27 AM
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Only Eth Classic has a chance. Eth hardfork  is affected by corruption from Vitalii Buterin and his companions

Classic needs a fork. But its hands are tied and it can't.

I am quietly optimistic for the Ethereum project. It's dangerous to ignore and assume it's a dying project.
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