RealBitcoin (OP)
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January 09, 2017, 05:08:13 PM |
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It is very simple to make Bitcoin mainstream, and it can be done with just a few months of work, from dedicated groups of people advertising it globally. I cant believe people didnt thought of this before,but let me give you the big one: 1) Get together a donation fund held in multisig escrow , of different trusted people, and then ask people to donate, probably 100 BTC will be enough. 2) Hire a master marketer, who can put together a simple photo ad, a facebook community page/group, for bitcoin. The image ad should tell some basic description about bitcoin,show an url to Bitcoin.org, and to a youtube video (like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc2en3nHxA4), and a link to the facebook group, where people can join. 3) Distribute the funds to different pockets of people around the globe, who will use it to buy a lot of ink and paper. 4) Create tens of thousands of pamphlets, and distribute them all over the world, these dedicated people will spend all their time giving it out to people on the street. 5) Target 20-40 year old people, especially guys, and if they ask questions, tell them about bitcoin. 6) Profit, now bitcoin will have many more millions of users!
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January 09, 2017, 05:24:12 PM |
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A 100 bitcoins will not take you to a million new users or are you planning to pay them a few Satoshi's for their effort? How are you going to
get trustworthy people that would take the money to print the pamphlets? What prevents the people who will be receiving these pamphlets to
distribute to just dump the pamphlets and then require payment for distributing it? We tried this before and found stashes of pamphlets
dumped in a waste bin. This will require a lot of trust, from a lot of people. { I would rather distribute it at Bitcoin meetups for people who are
dedicated to the cause. }
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RealBitcoin (OP)
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January 09, 2017, 05:41:06 PM |
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A 100 bitcoins will not take you to a million new users or are you planning to pay them a few Satoshi's for their effort? How are you going to
get trustworthy people that would take the money to print the pamphlets? What prevents the people who will be receiving these pamphlets to
distribute to just dump the pamphlets and then require payment for distributing it? We tried this before and found stashes of pamphlets
dumped in a waste bin. This will require a lot of trust, from a lot of people. { I would rather distribute it at Bitcoin meetups for people who are
dedicated to the cause. }
That is the organizers job to do it. They could wear a camera filming while giving out pamphlets to prove that they are working on it. I just gave you the idea. Now it;s other peoples job to do it. Trust me, pamphlets are the most efficient way to advertise, if done properly, without cheating.
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January 09, 2017, 06:46:20 PM |
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You support core small blocks.
So, those millions of new users fit their transactions into already full blocks where exactly? Adoption doesn't need pamphlets, adoption needs block space.
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RealBitcoin (OP)
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January 09, 2017, 07:02:36 PM |
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You support core small blocks.
So, those millions of new users fit their transactions into already full blocks where exactly? Adoption doesn't need pamphlets, adoption needs block space.
Let's just say i have changed my mind on that. I support segwit for now. But if after segwit gets activated, if the community agrees, then we could have a 2mb block size. But lets just not get into a block debate here, this thread is about another topic.
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January 09, 2017, 07:06:03 PM |
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Mate i get that you want to push the technology forward but i just think it is a non starter, a 100 bitcoin for a start is a drop in the ocean. $80,000 for a global pr campaign more like $80,000,000 is needed. sorry to be negative but i think its true. this thing either makes it or it dosnt. ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif)
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RealBitcoin (OP)
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January 09, 2017, 07:09:59 PM |
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Mate i get that you want to push the technology forward but i just think it is a non starter, a 100 bitcoin for a start is a drop in the ocean. $80,000 for a global pr campaign more like $80,000,000 is needed. sorry to be negative but i think its true. this thing either makes it or it dosnt. ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) No, it will get pushed by the network effect. Or maybe for concentration lets just pick 1 city. Like a Amsterdam for example, Bitcoin is very known in the Netherlands so its a good city to start with. Then you setup a Dutch BTC facebook group, and get all young people in there from Amsterdam. Then you have tens of thousands of people joining BTC, who will start to pitch BTC to their friends and family ,and in a short amount of time Netherlands will fully adopt BTC. And then other countries will join. As simple as that.
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January 09, 2017, 07:17:57 PM |
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1) SOLVE THE BLOCK SIZE ISSUE.
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January 09, 2017, 07:19:03 PM |
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Before we attempt to bring massive amounts of people into bitcoin we should add segwit + LN. I don't think the average joe is going to want to use bitcoin the way it is now (is mostly a better gold) because the average joe is clueless and doesn't even has a notion on storing money anywhere but their bank accounts.
Bitcoin will not reach mainstream usage status without segwit+LN, until then bitcoin will stay what it is today (an improved gold that also can be used as a currency, but for the optimal currency usage part we need segwit+LN and there are no other way around this fact).
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January 09, 2017, 07:25:49 PM |
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I think you under estimate the amount of money that goes into marketing and promotion. 100BTC cannot achieve anything in most countries talkless of the whole globe. Good that someone is thinking about making Bitcoin go Mainstream
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RealBitcoin (OP)
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January 09, 2017, 07:27:57 PM |
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Before we attempt to bring massive amounts of people into bitcoin we should add segwit + LN. I don't think the average joe is going to want to use bitcoin the way it is now (is mostly a better gold) because the average joe is clueless and doesn't even has a notion on storing money anywhere but their bank accounts.
Bitcoin will not reach mainstream usage status without segwit+LN, until then bitcoin will stay what it is today (an improved gold that also can be used as a currency, but for the optimal currency usage part we need segwit+LN and there are no other way around this fact).
Fuck that, I have been hearing that lame excuse for 1 year now. I have proposed an advertisement campaign about 1 year ago, and I got the same bullshit answer about " we cant get enough people we need to solve the block size". Well guess what 1 year has passed, and we still didnt solved the block problem. So how much are we going to wait here?? I say let's roll out Bitcoin now, full power, and worry about the TX problem later. It will at least put pressure on the network, to be more decisive. I am tired of waiting.
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January 09, 2017, 07:36:22 PM |
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OP.. sorry but no
if the plan is just to get random people to buy bitcoin and the only reason is to push the price up for profit.. i have to say Hell no. what should be done. can be done and does not require people paying a middleman(escrow) to be a markting fund manager is this:
get local people to set up their own local meetups. find out by then having their own 'think tanks' / brainstorm groups ask / think / discuss what their local community may want and need.
EG developing countries wont use bitcoin due to the tx fee alone costing as much as a chicken breast/3 lettuces.. instead they will want remittance access via face to face btc<->fiat swaps.
EG silicon valley and developed countries will look at daily use and making btc payments more user friendly (NFC smartwatch/wristband hardware wallets)
EG tourist area's will want merchant/exchanges (bureau de change)
where each area should concentrate on developing the infrastructure of bitcoin. and then.. and only then start advertising the SERVICES and UTILITY of bitcoin in their area.. not just the 'speculative profits' of investing on the hopes of continual deflations as just a reserve currency
best quote their is.. the movie field of dreams "if you build it they will come"
there is no point asking people to come into bitcoin if there is not much utility to see in their local area. the trick is to make bitcoin functional in the area then people will naturally come towards it.
if all you care about is an end goal of a larger fiat price. then you are not a bitcoiner but a fiat speculator
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RealBitcoin (OP)
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January 09, 2017, 08:06:00 PM |
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OP.. sorry but no
if the plan is just to get random people to buy bitcoin and the only reason is to push the price up for profit.. i have to say Hell no. what should be done. can be done and does not require people paying a middleman(escrow) to be a markting fund manager is this:
get local people to set up their own local meetups. find out by then having their own 'think tanks' / brainstorm groups ask / think / discuss what their local community may want and need.
EG developing countries wont use bitcoin due to the tx fee alone costing as much as a chicken breast/3 lettuces.. instead they will want remittance access via face to face btc<->fiat swaps.
EG silicon valley and developed countries will look at daily use and making btc payments more user friendly (NFC smartwatch/wristband hardware wallets)
EG tourist area's will want merchant/exchanges (bureau de change)
Interesting proposal, so you propose a more local/decentralized approach. Yes I could agree, each locality knows better what they need Bitcoin to use for and what are the penetration poins where Bitcoin can be inserted. Well yes I agree with that, but we can still setup a donation fund and distribute them to these local communities. I hardly doubt people in africa have enough money to spend on ads, but other people could help them, to organize bitcoin there and have a big stronghold in africa for example. best quote their is.. the movie field of dreams "if you build it they will come"
I completely agree. However the problem is the funding. There are many talented entrepreneurs and programmers out there who would build stuff, but dont have the funding for it. That should be done first. Like some soft of crowd funding website (which has been attempted before) but with strong verification requirements to eliminate 99% of the scams.
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January 09, 2017, 08:23:37 PM |
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1) SOLVE THE BLOCK SIZE ISSUE.
I tend to agree. What good is mass adoption if we can not handle it? If you want to start the rocket, then pull out the breaks first. To many users with no clue at once could be dangerous.
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January 09, 2017, 08:26:14 PM |
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First take a look at every single bitcoin's alternatives and their marketcaps, already a successful and multi billion economy. Some services need to provide their unique products only accepting bitcoin. Make it so when someone selling stuff online accepting bitcoin doesn't wake up in the morning and finds out due to price drop he/she not only didn't profit but lost from pocket as well, this could be achieved by automation trades and exchanges like no matter the price you will always pay equal to fiat amount in bitcoin and the seller will get the fiat equivalent to current btc price in matter of minutes in their bank accounts.
Advertising in different sites with the most traffic and daily visitors is one of the best options anyone could think of, because if I don't know and not aware of something even exists then how can I use, follow and contribute at all?
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January 09, 2017, 08:32:56 PM |
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im sorry to say this again.. but
stop drilling for a money grab.. remember bitcoin foundation.. it didnt work
also befor getting obsessed about a money grab. you need to have some basics of WHAT people are donating towards.. not some flimsy story of 'helping expand bitcoin' but some actual structure, data, statistics, idea's knowledge.
it does not cost anything for people to go to meetup.com or set up an 'event' on facebook and tell their local community about it. EG "BITCOIN MEETUP, local cafe, anyone interested to get involved is welcome to come"
setting up a slack or IRC with a bot that has a chatlog is not a big thing either so that people can discuss their findings more centrally.. infact they can even use the local sections of this very forum to formalise plans.
then they can discuss kickstarters for their projects by outlaying a plan of action and naming who is involved and how it will work.
things like this dont take larg capital to setup nor months.. it can be done for free/dirt cheap and in hours/days..
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January 09, 2017, 08:37:00 PM |
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Why the hell would 100BTC need to be put in escrow or donated by people? Here's a better idea, everyone reading this take 10 sheets of paper and print out a big bitcoin symbol on it. Scatter them , put them up on sign posts, whatever. People who keep seeing bitcoin everywhere will be interested.
Going for groceries? Ask if they accept bitcoins.
Booking a flight? Ask if they take bitcoins.
Filling up the car? Bitcoins accepted here mate?
Tweet about bitcoins.
Tell all your friends about bitcoins.
Wear bitcoin goggles and a leopard print thong and run down the street yelling I love bitcoins!
These would all result in everyone around you knowing about bitcoins.
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RealBitcoin (OP)
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January 09, 2017, 08:58:25 PM |
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im sorry to say this again.. but
stop drilling for a money grab.. remember bitcoin foundation.. it didnt work
You are saying that as if I were begging for money there? No I want others to do it, I just revived this idea. The bitcoin foundaion was reportedly corrupt, and it was badly done. It can be done much better with a transparent multisig escrow fund. Going for groceries? Ask if they accept bitcoins.
Booking a flight? Ask if they take bitcoins.
Filling up the car? Bitcoins accepted here mate?
They are all corporations that decide these issues at the top level. It's not like you walk into a supermarket and you can convince them to accept bitcoins. I know the manager of a local corporate supermarket, and his hands are very tied. All orders come from above, his job is basically just paperwork and interacting with workers. But all the business policy decisions come from the CEO.
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January 09, 2017, 09:28:42 PM |
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At least this guy is thinking. How more suggestions and less criticism.
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January 09, 2017, 09:40:51 PM |
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At least this guy is thinking. How more suggestions and less criticism.
Cause we know it's much easier to criticize then to actuality do something. I support this like I like to to support all good and quality ideas, check how this guy do that: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1744821.0There is people who actually so something about promotion, and what OP said is good but require some investment. I can't afford all that, I need to work for lousy paycheck, and I don't earn thousands with bitcoins. This is for people who had most benefit from btc and for people who earn a lot every month.
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