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May 03, 2017, 11:17:40 AM
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I am sure there are all kind of fanatics on the world, but i think that the most of fanatics are in religion sector. And the largest fanatics groups are in Muslim religion. Why is that, I really do not know. I mean, i do not know there religion that well, but i do not think that there religion teach to kill people. Like in every religion its Human factor that its bad. But it can not be denied that Muslim fanatics are problem that must be dealt with.
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And then when the country's all Muslim, they start killing each other. Christians has been through this but at a time when WMDs are not available yet and Christian sects have all eventually reformed.

There are a few 100% Muslim countries around the world, such as Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Sudan.etc. All these countries are currently affected by civil war, perhaps with the exception of Saudi Arabia.

Saudi don't yet have a civil war because they are the ones spreading radicalism. They donate a mosque to your area and you know what's coming next.  They've had a few attacks though but those are mostly targeted against the Shia minority there.

This has happened in my area as well. The Muslims in my country were quite normal people a few decades back. They were well integrated to the general population. But everything changed once the Saudi money started flowing.

Seems to be happening in Indonesia right now. What I'm seeing in the news don't seem to be a bad sign. I'm also seeing storm clouds in my country. Would probably fall once they've surpassed our numbers.

And then when the country's all Muslim, they start killing each other. Christians has been through this but at a time when WMDs are not available yet and Christian sects have all eventually reformed.

There are a few 100% Muslim countries around the world, such as Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Sudan.etc. All these countries are currently affected by civil war, perhaps with the exception of Saudi Arabia.

Saudi don't yet have a civil war because they are the ones spreading radicalism. They donate a mosque to your area and you know what's coming next.  They've had a few attacks though but those are mostly targeted against the Shia minority there.

Like many gulf states, they were also quite good at stuffing their people's mouths with oil money to placate them. If that fails, then you go to jail, it's not like anyone or the international community would do anything. Everyone, even America, just turn a blind eye.
All turn a blind eye only because they depend on oil. Now go to the global trends that demand for oil will fall and the price of black gold will decline accordingly. The Americans have caught these trends, and probably is linked to the decision by Trump to sell us oil. Then maybe the conversation will be different.

Sigh, our scientists better hurry to find an oil alternative so the world can shift as soon as possible. Unfortunately it seems that the research are also being funded by oil companies, knowing what they're peddling is non-renewable. Might happen that we'll switch but they're still the ones making money.

In the mean time... I hope Venezuela get its act together. I wouldn't mind buying oil from them even if it'll be a bit more expensive because of transportation cost.

And then when the country's all Muslim, they start killing each other. Christians has been through this but at a time when WMDs are not available yet and Christian sects have all eventually reformed.

There are a few 100% Muslim countries around the world, such as Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Sudan.etc. All these countries are currently affected by civil war, perhaps with the exception of Saudi Arabia.

Saudi don't yet have a civil war because they are the ones spreading radicalism.
They donate a mosque to your area and you know what's coming next.  They've had a few attacks though but those are mostly targeted against the Shia minority there.

Like many gulf states, they were also quite good at stuffing their people's mouths with oil money to placate them. If that fails, then you go to jail, it's not like anyone or the international community would do anything. Everyone, even America, just turn a blind eye.
All turn a blind eye only because they depend on oil. Now go to the global trends that demand for oil will fall and the price of black gold will decline accordingly. The Americans have caught these trends, and probably is linked to the decision by Trump to sell us oil. Then maybe the conversation will be different.

Thank the American Frackers.

I'd correct the above to add Iraq as a major exporter of radical Islamic terrorism.

I was wondering if Iran is as active as KSA in this field. I mean, if not for the nukes, maybe they'd be a better friend than KSA.
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May 03, 2017, 04:41:26 PM
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And then when the country's all Muslim, they start killing each other. Christians has been through this but at a time when WMDs are not available yet and Christian sects have all eventually reformed.

There are a few 100% Muslim countries around the world, such as Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Sudan.etc. All these countries are currently affected by civil war, perhaps with the exception of Saudi Arabia.

Saudi don't yet have a civil war because they are the ones spreading radicalism. They donate a mosque to your area and you know what's coming next.  They've had a few attacks though but those are mostly targeted against the Shia minority there.

This has happened in my area as well. The Muslims in my country were quite normal people a few decades back. They were well integrated to the general population. But everything changed once the Saudi money started flowing.

Seems to be happening in Indonesia right now. What I'm seeing in the news don't seem to be a bad sign. I'm also seeing storm clouds in my country. Would probably fall once they've surpassed our numbers.

And then when the country's all Muslim, they start killing each other. Christians has been through this but at a time when WMDs are not available yet and Christian sects have all eventually reformed.

There are a few 100% Muslim countries around the world, such as Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Sudan.etc. All these countries are currently affected by civil war, perhaps with the exception of Saudi Arabia.

Saudi don't yet have a civil war because they are the ones spreading radicalism. They donate a mosque to your area and you know what's coming next.  They've had a few attacks though but those are mostly targeted against the Shia minority there.

Like many gulf states, they were also quite good at stuffing their people's mouths with oil money to placate them. If that fails, then you go to jail, it's not like anyone or the international community would do anything. Everyone, even America, just turn a blind eye.
All turn a blind eye only because they depend on oil. Now go to the global trends that demand for oil will fall and the price of black gold will decline accordingly. The Americans have caught these trends, and probably is linked to the decision by Trump to sell us oil. Then maybe the conversation will be different.

Sigh, our scientists better hurry to find an oil alternative so the world can shift as soon as possible. Unfortunately it seems that the research are also being funded by oil companies, knowing what they're peddling is non-renewable. Might happen that we'll switch but they're still the ones making money.

In the mean time... I hope Venezuela get its act together. I wouldn't mind buying oil from them even if it'll be a bit more expensive because of transportation cost.

And then when the country's all Muslim, they start killing each other. Christians has been through this but at a time when WMDs are not available yet and Christian sects have all eventually reformed.

There are a few 100% Muslim countries around the world, such as Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Sudan.etc. All these countries are currently affected by civil war, perhaps with the exception of Saudi Arabia.

Saudi don't yet have a civil war because they are the ones spreading radicalism.
They donate a mosque to your area and you know what's coming next.  They've had a few attacks though but those are mostly targeted against the Shia minority there.

Like many gulf states, they were also quite good at stuffing their people's mouths with oil money to placate them. If that fails, then you go to jail, it's not like anyone or the international community would do anything. Everyone, even America, just turn a blind eye.
All turn a blind eye only because they depend on oil. Now go to the global trends that demand for oil will fall and the price of black gold will decline accordingly. The Americans have caught these trends, and probably is linked to the decision by Trump to sell us oil. Then maybe the conversation will be different.

Thank the American Frackers.

I'd correct the above to add Iraq as a major exporter of radical Islamic terrorism.

I was wondering if Iran is as active as KSA in this field. I mean, if not for the nukes, maybe they'd be a better friend than KSA.
Sorry, I meant to say Iran.
But as others have mentioned, it seems to be related to the percentage of Muslims in the population.
When most of the country is Muslim, the country seems to behave very badly, exports and fund terrorism, has atrocious policies towards women, gays and others, including Christians.

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May 03, 2017, 10:54:23 PM
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Is there a country with more than 70% of the population of Islam without terrorist groups?

Forget 70%. There is not a single country where Muslims are more than 30% of the population, which is not having Islamic terror groups. Even in Thailand and Myanmar, where the Muslim population is only around 5%, we have Islamic terror groups.

I really dont know why  they always act like that? Is that maybe because they were also being abuse by the other religions they were being put on the lowest part always when we talk about religions or maybe because they just used to it.
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May 04, 2017, 12:41:50 AM
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Is there a country with more than 70% of the population of Islam without terrorist groups?

Forget 70%. There is not a single country where Muslims are more than 30% of the population, which is not having Islamic terror groups. Even in Thailand and Myanmar, where the Muslim population is only around 5%, we have Islamic terror groups.

I really dont know why  they always act like that? Is that maybe because they were also being abuse by the other religions they were being put on the lowest part always when we talk about religions or maybe because they just used to it.
What's there to understand? The bulk of Islamic States is an underdeveloped country, where the population is very poor. The only way to make it war or terrorism. It all depends on who and what they will order.
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May 04, 2017, 05:02:37 AM
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What's there to understand? The bulk of Islamic States is an underdeveloped country, where the population is very poor. The only way to make it war or terrorism. It all depends on who and what they will order.

Look at countries such as Qatar, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. They are among the richest in the world. There are other rich Muslim nations as well, such as Brunei, Maldives, Turkey, and Malaysia. But their behavior is the same everywhere.

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May 04, 2017, 02:01:58 PM
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What's there to understand? The bulk of Islamic States is an underdeveloped country, where the population is very poor. The only way to make it war or terrorism. It all depends on who and what they will order.

Look at countries such as Qatar, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. They are among the richest in the world. There are other rich Muslim nations as well, such as Brunei, Maldives, Turkey, and Malaysia. But their behavior is the same everywhere.
How much do you see of suicide perpetrators from these countries? Yes they sponsor terrorism, organize, but do not participate in a terrorist attack. They always have a chance to survive. It seems to me that they are all mediators between those who order the attacks and the terrorists.
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A big big no! You were fooled by news and all media reports out there.
Fooled? Are you suggesting all these bombings, shootings and lorry rampages have been fabricated by the media?



The media only spread the news of bombings and shootings that occurred in Muslim-majority countries. The world was immediately react, the world immediately shook. Like when shooting in Paris, direct support emerged from around the world. But what about the bombings, massacres that occurred in Islamic countries like Palestine, Syria, the media did not spread, did not preach as much as their news about the shooting in Paris
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