GOODBYE OBAMA !

[Sithara007]

We'll see in time. But I'm pretty sure wars will be more numerous, more important and more costly in 4 years than now.

I am not sure about it. Trump has stated that he is against unnecessary military interventions. But it needs to be seen whether he can silence the warmongers in his own party, such as John McCain and Lindsey Graham.

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[debtstack]

We'll see in time. But I'm pretty sure wars will be more numerous, more important and more costly in 4 years than now.

I am not sure about it. Trump has stated that he is against unnecessary military interventions. But it needs to be seen whether he can silence the warmongers in his own party, such as John McCain and Lindsey Graham.

The guy that said he likes war isn't the warmonger? Boy we live in interesting times. Full of unicorns and delusions.

[philggg]

Obama  tried during his tenure  after obtaining power from judge bush junior when the economy was is recession he was the one that put America back to it foot he tried

[Sakura_nakomoto]

We'll see in time. But I'm pretty sure wars will be more numerous, more important and more costly in 4 years than now.

I am not sure about it. Trump has stated that he is against unnecessary military interventions. But it needs to be seen whether he can silence the warmongers in his own party, such as John McCain and Lindsey Graham.

Amazing how Trump finds people who believe in all that nonsense that he is. He can't control it. Today he says one thing and tomorrow he says the opposite. The only thing he always says is that it will increase defence spending.

[BADecker]

We'll see in time. But I'm pretty sure wars will be more numerous, more important and more costly in 4 years than now.

I am not sure about it. Trump has stated that he is against unnecessary military interventions. But it needs to be seen whether he can silence the warmongers in his own party, such as John McCain and Lindsey Graham.

Amazing how Trump finds people who believe in all that nonsense that he is. He can't control it. Today he says one thing and tomorrow he says the opposite. The only thing he always says is that it will increase defence spending.

Saying one thing today and the opposite tomorrow is standard politics. Trump isn't trying to hide it at all. But Obama and Hillary said the same thing all the time. Yet they DID one thing yesterday and the opposite today.

What is more important? What you talk? Or what you do? We have yet to see what Trump will do, and that is what counts.

[ifightformerkel]

Iam also a little bit sad that Obama is going.

But it is a opportunity to some radical changes in the us and world history,
iam a little bit scared, but i have a hope for some good changes.

[BADecker]

I like where Spendulus reminded us that Obama, one of the most warmongering presidents of all, won the Nobel Peace Prize. What is even funnier is that people gloss right over it without ever realizing that it is there.

[BitcoinMarshal]

Iam also a little bit sad that Obama is going.

But it is a opportunity to some radical changes in the us and world history,
iam a little bit scared, but i have a hope for some good changes.

I also feel now time to change in America but as Trump saying he will increase spending in defense its not good idea he need to concentrate on local industries to create more jobs and bring back great image of this great country

[Spendulus]

We'll see in time. But I'm pretty sure wars will be more numerous, more important and more costly in 4 years than now.

I am not sure about it. Trump has stated that he is against unnecessary military interventions. But it needs to be seen whether he can silence the warmongers in his own party, such as John McCain and Lindsey Graham.

The guy that said he likes war isn't the warmonger? Boy we live in interesting times. Full of unicorns and delusions.

Trump is not a warmonger.  Factually. 
Does he have any background in war or war industries?
Nope.
Could that all change?  Sure.  People change.  Situations change.

[Sithara007]

We'll see in time. But I'm pretty sure wars will be more numerous, more important and more costly in 4 years than now.

I am not sure about it. Trump has stated that he is against unnecessary military interventions. But it needs to be seen whether he can silence the warmongers in his own party, such as John McCain and Lindsey Graham.

The guy that said he likes war isn't the warmonger? Boy we live in interesting times. Full of unicorns and delusions.

Do you have any proof that he actually said something like that? He is in favor of spending additional funds for the welfare of veterans. But he is against unnecessary military interventions, which is draining the American treasury.

[mainpmf]

Well, I would suggest a bit of caution. 

First I do not know how to quantify the problem.  More armed conflict?  The US in another ground war?  Number of US drone strikes?

And this fucking egocentric megalomaniac billionaire is not different than many other fucking egocentric megalomaniac billionaires, such as Obama's puppet master Soros.

The second reason I suggest caution is that even in ten days, both you and I will know much more than we do currently about Trump's behavior.  In 100 days, we will know much, much more. 

Many people commented that from their spoken words, Hillary seemed the warmonger.  I know that Trump has stated that as soon as he takes office, America's part in the Syria mess will stop.

Well that one is easy to quantify and I'm also ready to bet on that 

It's true that Hitlery would have probably been worse. But it doesn't mean Trump is good.

We'll see in time. But I'm pretty sure wars will be more numerous, more important and more costly in 4 years than now.

Well that could be true for other reasons, such as batshit crazy Islamics, reasons that would have nothing to do with the USA.  I know Hillary had specific ideas about positive effects from war and military force that I strongly disagree with.  I know that she has a record of major bungling using force (or not using it, as was the case in Bengazi)

Yeah, USA clearly intervened in other countries only after Islamic terrorism.
I mean it's not like USA financed and trained Islamic terrorists when they didn't even exist 
And it's clearly not the way USA do things that to attack random coutries and destabilize their government while they have done nothing! Noooooooooooooooooo xD

Trump is harder to read so from where comes your certainty, if I may ask?

4 things:
1/USA is a fucking warmongering country. Never have been in peace, never will. Usa people are all about bringing peace and democracy to the world, about how soldiers should be proud... You just love war, it's a cultural activity for you.
2/USA never needed a good reason to go to war. Thinking about it give me one war in whitch they were involved with a good reason except WW? (And even WW you can discuss their involvment motivations).
3/Trump is a fucking billionaire, seems like the only things he loves more than power is money. And war is the most lucrative business in USA
4/ Even if by miracle Trump was in fact not the ugly asshole he seems to be, weapon industry will never let him bring peace. Even if he was a good guy, if he tried too hard to bring soldiers back you can be sure he would be "removed" by a way or another.

USA has been proven not being a democracy. Why would it be different here?

[PonzyManCrazyLiar]

great job and goodbye obama
and welcome donald trump, and new job, new work, and success to same obama

[Spendulus]

.....
4 things:
1/USA is a fucking warmongering country. Never have been in peace, never will. Usa people are all about bringing peace and democracy to the world, about how soldiers should be proud... You just love war, it's a cultural activity for you.
2/USA never needed a good reason to go to war. Thinking about it give me one war in whitch they were involved with a good reason except WW? (And even WW you can discuss their involvment motivations).
3/Trump is a fucking billionaire, seems like the only things he loves more than power is money. And war is the most lucrative business in USA
4/ Even if by miracle Trump was in fact not the ugly asshole he seems to be, weapon industry will never let him bring peace. Even if he was a good guy, if he tried too hard to bring soldiers back you can be sure he would be "removed" by a way or another.

USA has been proven not being a democracy. Why would it be different here?

Sounds like your complaint is with the country, not the man elected as the New President.

[BADecker]

Artist's Impression Of Obama's Farewell Address

"King of the world..."

Read more at http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-13/artists-impression-obamas-farewell-address.

[mainpmf]

.....
4 things:
1/USA is a fucking warmongering country. Never have been in peace, never will. Usa people are all about bringing peace and democracy to the world, about how soldiers should be proud... You just love war, it's a cultural activity for you.
2/USA never needed a good reason to go to war. Thinking about it give me one war in whitch they were involved with a good reason except WW? (And even WW you can discuss their involvment motivations).
3/Trump is a fucking billionaire, seems like the only things he loves more than power is money. And war is the most lucrative business in USA
4/ Even if by miracle Trump was in fact not the ugly asshole he seems to be, weapon industry will never let him bring peace. Even if he was a good guy, if he tried too hard to bring soldiers back you can be sure he would be "removed" by a way or another.

USA has been proven not being a democracy. Why would it be different here?

Sounds like your complaint is with the country, not the man elected as the New President.

Oh perfectly! I'm just saying that Trump is not different and that even if he was he couldn't do shit!

I never accused him of being specifically responsible for future wars, he's not even president yet it would be ridiculous xD
I'm just saying I have 0 hopes of him being a man of peace that's all.

[Spendulus]

.....
4 things:
1/USA is a fucking warmongering country. Never have been in peace, never will. Usa people are all about bringing peace and democracy to the world, about how soldiers should be proud... You just love war, it's a cultural activity for you.
2/USA never needed a good reason to go to war. Thinking about it give me one war in whitch they were involved with a good reason except WW? (And even WW you can discuss their involvment motivations).
3/Trump is a fucking billionaire, seems like the only things he loves more than power is money. And war is the most lucrative business in USA
4/ Even if by miracle Trump was in fact not the ugly asshole he seems to be, weapon industry will never let him bring peace. Even if he was a good guy, if he tried too hard to bring soldiers back you can be sure he would be "removed" by a way or another.

USA has been proven not being a democracy. Why would it be different here?

Sounds like your complaint is with the country, not the man elected as the New President.

Oh perfectly! I'm just saying that Trump is not different and that even if he was he couldn't do shit!

I never accused him of being specifically responsible for future wars, he's not even president yet it would be ridiculous xD
I'm just saying I have 0 hopes of him being a man of peace that's all.

Okay, seems fair.

I have to comment that I've seen the way Hillary's bungling started, prolonged or intensified conflict.  We shouldn't have anything like that coming down.  But yeah I guess you could argue it COULD be just as bad.  This would be sort of like arguing if you invested in the stock market and tried to lose, you could still win.  Or if you tried to win, you could still lose. 

[mainpmf]

.....
4 things:
1/USA is a fucking warmongering country. Never have been in peace, never will. Usa people are all about bringing peace and democracy to the world, about how soldiers should be proud... You just love war, it's a cultural activity for you.
2/USA never needed a good reason to go to war. Thinking about it give me one war in whitch they were involved with a good reason except WW? (And even WW you can discuss their involvment motivations).
3/Trump is a fucking billionaire, seems like the only things he loves more than power is money. And war is the most lucrative business in USA
4/ Even if by miracle Trump was in fact not the ugly asshole he seems to be, weapon industry will never let him bring peace. Even if he was a good guy, if he tried too hard to bring soldiers back you can be sure he would be "removed" by a way or another.

USA has been proven not being a democracy. Why would it be different here?

Sounds like your complaint is with the country, not the man elected as the New President.

Oh perfectly! I'm just saying that Trump is not different and that even if he was he couldn't do shit!

I never accused him of being specifically responsible for future wars, he's not even president yet it would be ridiculous xD
I'm just saying I have 0 hopes of him being a man of peace that's all.

Okay, seems fair.

I have to comment that I've seen the way Hillary's bungling started, prolonged or intensified conflict.  We shouldn't have anything like that coming down.  But yeah I guess you could argue it COULD be just as bad.  This would be sort of like arguing if you invested in the stock market and tried to lose, you could still win.  Or if you tried to win, you could still lose. 

Not sure I understand the end of your sentence...
Too complicated metaphor for my little brain it seems
Anyway, if I try to continue your metaphor, it's a bit like investing in stock market after the assassination of 5 different European presidents. You can say whatever you want, have the best preparation, the best arguments, the Euro is still gonna crash.
And whatever you want to do, USA is a country of war.
Americans don't even know what peace means, that would terrify them xD

[Spendulus]

.....
4 things:
1/USA is a fucking warmongering country. Never have been in peace, never will. Usa people are all about bringing peace and democracy to the world, about how soldiers should be proud... You just love war, it's a cultural activity for you.
2/USA never needed a good reason to go to war. Thinking about it give me one war in whitch they were involved with a good reason except WW? (And even WW you can discuss their involvment motivations).
3/Trump is a fucking billionaire, seems like the only things he loves more than power is money. And war is the most lucrative business in USA
4/ Even if by miracle Trump was in fact not the ugly asshole he seems to be, weapon industry will never let him bring peace. Even if he was a good guy, if he tried too hard to bring soldiers back you can be sure he would be "removed" by a way or another.

USA has been proven not being a democracy. Why would it be different here?

Sounds like your complaint is with the country, not the man elected as the New President.

Oh perfectly! I'm just saying that Trump is not different and that even if he was he couldn't do shit!

I never accused him of being specifically responsible for future wars, he's not even president yet it would be ridiculous xD
I'm just saying I have 0 hopes of him being a man of peace that's all.

Okay, seems fair.

I have to comment that I've seen the way Hillary's bungling started, prolonged or intensified conflict.  We shouldn't have anything like that coming down.  But yeah I guess you could argue it COULD be just as bad.  This would be sort of like arguing if you invested in the stock market and tried to lose, you could still win.  Or if you tried to win, you could still lose. 

Not sure I understand the end of your sentence...
Too complicated metaphor for my little brain it seems
Anyway, if I try to continue your metaphor, it's a bit like investing in stock market after the assassination of 5 different European presidents. You can say whatever you want, have the best preparation, the best arguments, the Euro is still gonna crash.
And whatever you want to do, USA is a country of war.
Americans don't even know what peace means, that would terrify them xD

I do understand what you are saying. 

Rather than engage in near term guess work, why should we just revisit this question during the first 100 days?

[andrei56]

What good policies did he have?, what good has he done?

He had good intentions but that is not enough, he indebted the country like no other president and the Americans did not seem to have a lot to show for it. 

[Spendulus]

What good policies did he have?, what good has he done?

He had good intentions but that is not enough, he indebted the country like no other president and the Americans did not seem to have a lot to show for it. 

Right we have nothing to show for it.  But maybe partly because people realized what a disaster this was the people elected Trump.  I was surprised they did this.  Had no idea so many people thought the same way I did.