Primedice.com fooled it's customers with 'Hufflepluff' story

[justnotgoodenough]

http://www.newsbtc.com/2015/06/30/primedice-bitcoin-gambling-site-hacked-for-1m/

https://www.hackread.com/gambling-site-hacked-bitcoin-stolen/

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/player-cheated-online-bitcoin-gaming-site-1-million-reward-offered-help/

http://www.flushdraw.net/news/bitcoin-gambling-site-explains-how-it-was-hacked-for-1-million/

https://coins.newbium.com/post/1335-site-gambling-bitcoin-primedice-hacked-us-1-m

Just to name a few from a quick google search about this incredible million dollar heist story that was never presented with actual proof of it really happening.

Was 2015 a rough year for PD financially ? Could be. But trying to gain public trust by advertising a false story should fall under scrutiny.
If you look at this "2037 BTC stolen by a very smart guy" story you will find nothing but txids(which can be faked by a 5 year old), youtube videos of the $8000 bets taking place( which also can be faked by Mr. Edwards cousin) and a story written so poorly that it never reaches the dramatic mood of gansterness that never reached to its full potential )

The owner of Primedice.com.(Mr. what you call him Edward who dont even have one single photo of himself on the internet . Oh i understand privacy but when you are making a fortune out of the publicity of your site on "internet" you ought to atleast show how good you look !)

The owner of PD should be publicly interviewed and be asked to present convincing proof of fake heist story with 'The Goodfellas' posters


Mr. what you call him Edward who dont even have one single photo of himself on the internet . Oh understand privacy but when you definitely are making fortune out of the publicity of your site you ought to atleast show how good you look !

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[sotirispngt]

Hmmm, how are you that sure about it?
You didn't state any proof, but only accusations.
PrimeDice is LEGIT.
I haven't seen any more kind, active and caring owners and staff on any other website.

[justnotgoodenough]

Hmmm, how are you that sure about it?
You didn't state any proof, but only accusations.
PrimeDice is LEGIT.
I haven't seen any more kind, active and caring owners and staff on any other website.

And you just made a statement with no proof as well

[RHavar]

I'm really not sure what more evidence you could possibly expect? They've provided a lot more evidence that it was a real heist than you provided it's fake (i.e. none) and posted a pretty detailed write-up of exactly what happened.

If you choose to believe it was a publicity stunt .. well then go for it. The truth is the only money was lost was their own, they really owe you nothing.


If you compare it to bitfinnex who lost a huge amount of other peoples money and has provided way less information (and not even said if they've found and fixed the issue) I think the PD team has handled it stunningly well.

[justnotgoodenough]

I'm really not sure what more evidence you could possibly expect? They've provided a lot more evidence that it was a real heist than you provided it's fake (i.e. none) and posted a pretty detailed write-up of exactly what happened.

If you choose to believe it was a publicity stunt .. well then go for it. The truth is the only money was lost was their own, they really owe you nothing.


If you compare it to bitfinnex who lost a huge amount of other peoples money and has provided way less information (and not even said if they've found and fixed the issue) I think the PD team has handled it stunningly well.

Your use of the word 'Stunningly' has reminded me of another word to replace it with ,'Cunningly'. I dont want to mix Bitfinex with PD story . Like i said txids are not evidence. Anyone could be owning multiple bitcoin address and just transferring back and forth to make it look like an evidence.

[RHavar]

Your use of the word 'Stunningly' has reminded me of another word to replace it with ,'Cunningly'.

Nah, it was just a play on "stunna"  

I dont want to mix Bitfinex with PD story . Like i said txids are not evidence. Anyone could be owning multiple bitcoin address and just transferring back and forth to make it look like an evidence.

Again, they don't owe you any evidence. And I'm not sure what exactly you think happens in a hack? A hack doesn't leave some cryptographically verifiable evidence of a hack.

If you choose to believe it was a publicity stunt, then fine. But if you're going to call someone out for lying with zero evidence of your own, you just look like a douche (which I guess explains why you're using a new account).

[HardBoy]

The owner of Primedice.com.(Mr. what you call him Edward who dont even have one single photo of himself on the internet . Oh i understand privacy but when you are making a fortune out of the publicity of your site on "internet" you ought to atleast show how good you look !)

Edward = Craig Steven Wright

Stunna = Ramona Watts

No. I'm NOT going to provide any proof for this. There are enough lying around. It is up to u to go deep down the rabbit hole.

[justnotgoodenough]

Your use of the word 'Stunningly' has reminded me of another word to replace it with ,'Cunningly'.

Nah, it was just a play on "stunna"  

I dont want to mix Bitfinex with PD story . Like i said txids are not evidence. Anyone could be owning multiple bitcoin address and just transferring back and forth to make it look like an evidence.

Again, they don't owe you any evidence. And I'm not sure what exactly you think happens in a hack? A hack doesn't leave some cryptographically verifiable evidence of a hack.

If you choose to believe it was a publicity stunt, then fine. But if you're going to call someone out for lying with zero evidence of your own, you just look like a douche (which I guess explains why you're using a new account).

I refuse to agree with 'they dont owe us any evidence'. They mentioned in their article not only once, multiple times that them giving out this higher payouts are living proof of how dedicated they are towards their integrity. I believe this whole article are a way of attracting High rollers who are already playing on other sites or prospective high rollers who, after reading this story will be convinced enough to bet higher.

And ..I have never had a bitcointalk account. I have always been an unregistered reader

[MICRO]

Your use of the word 'Stunningly' has reminded me of another word to replace it with ,'Cunningly'.

Nah, it was just a play on "stunna" 

I dont want to mix Bitfinex with PD story . Like i said txids are not evidence. Anyone could be owning multiple bitcoin address and just transferring back and forth to make it look like an evidence.

Again, they don't owe you any evidence. And I'm not sure what exactly you think happens in a hack? A hack doesn't leave some cryptographically verifiable evidence of a hack.

If you choose to believe it was a publicity stunt, then fine. But if you're going to call someone out for lying with zero evidence of your own, you just look like a douche (which I guess explains why you're using a new account).

I refuse to agree with 'they dont owe us any evidence'. They mentioned in their article not only once, multiple times that them giving out this higher payouts are living proof of how dedicated they are towards their integrity. I believe this whole article are a way of attracting High rollers who are already playing on other sites or prospective high rollers who, after reading this story will be convinced enough to bet higher.

And ..I have never had a bitcointalk account. I have always been an unregistered reader

Haha... Well take my word for it. Stunna and Edward would very very very much like you are correct and that they are hufflepuff they would have 2000+ btc more now .

Unfortunately that is not the case.

Hufflepuff was very real and he or she or them took huge chunk of bitcoins.

It was very expensive lesson for the Primedice team.

[Jubiar2]

[img]http://I fuck primedice. they are stole my 1.60 btc. I just want to back my money or not I will die. I can't believe it. Past few days when increase my bet then Always I lost my bet. It's not trusted sites. https://s29.postimg.org/5a09wvp0n/gghhhhh.png

[sotirispngt]

[img]http://I fuck primedice. they are stole my 1.60 btc. I just want to back my money or not I will die. I can't believe it. Past few days when increase my bet then Always I lost my bet. It's not trusted sites. https://s29.postimg.org/5a09wvp0n/gghhhhh.png

It's called luck brother! I'm sorry for your loss. PrimeDice has a provably fair system, it's not "scam".

[mOgliE]

http://www.newsbtc.com/2015/06/30/primedice-bitcoin-gambling-site-hacked-for-1m/

https://www.hackread.com/gambling-site-hacked-bitcoin-stolen/

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/player-cheated-online-bitcoin-gaming-site-1-million-reward-offered-help/

http://www.flushdraw.net/news/bitcoin-gambling-site-explains-how-it-was-hacked-for-1-million/

https://coins.newbium.com/post/1335-site-gambling-bitcoin-primedice-hacked-us-1-m

Just to name a few from a quick google search about this incredible million dollar heist story that was never presented with actual proof of it really happening.

Was 2015 a rough year for PD financially ? Could be. But trying to gain public trust by advertising a false story should fall under scrutiny.
If you look at this "2037 BTC stolen by a very smart guy" story you will find nothing but txids(which can be faked by a 5 year old), youtube videos of the $8000 bets taking place( which also can be faked by Mr. Edwards cousin) and a story written so poorly that it never reaches the dramatic mood of gansterness that never reached to its full potential )

The owner of Primedice.com.(Mr. what you call him Edward who dont even have one single photo of himself on the internet . Oh i understand privacy but when you are making a fortune out of the publicity of your site on "internet" you ought to atleast show how good you look !)

The owner of PD should be publicly interviewed and be asked to present convincing proof of fake heist story with 'The Goodfellas' posters


Mr. what you call him Edward who dont even have one single photo of himself on the internet . Oh understand privacy but when you definitely are making fortune out of the publicity of your site you ought to atleast show how good you look !

There is something I don't understand...

Primedice didn't take any money from the players did they?
They stated that PD lost this amount of money, but they never robbed any players, they were all able to withdraw their funds no?
Then...
Correct me if I'm wrong of course, But what you're saying makes no sense no? All they could have done even by faking everything would be to make a bit of advertisement. And a clever one. But that's all, otherwise they just took 2000 of their btc in a wallet to place it in another wallet without ever impacting it on the players.
How is that a bad thing?

[torry28]

[img]http://I fuck primedice. they are stole my 1.60 btc. I just want to back my money or not I will die. I can't believe it. Past few days when increase my bet then Always I lost my bet. It's not trusted sites. https://s29.postimg.org/5a09wvp0n/gghhhhh.png

They didn't stole anything and never will do that i believe, based from your picture, i just see total of your loss is 0.227 btc, where is the other 1.3 btc you lose?
You are off topic on here, this thread is discussing about what hufflepuff made (he cheated) to primedice back then

[Stunna]

https://medium.com/@Stunna/breaking-the-house-63f1021a3e6d#.17ka35t80  Have you read this? I don't think anyone has ever disputed this. I wish you were right

Honestly I'm curious what type of "proof" you'd want beyond what was provided.



Feel free to contact him here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=376427

[Lexiatel]

Ooh, a Harry Potter fan? Well, you should know that Hufflepuffs would never claim to be honest just to get trusted (the majority don't care if they are). They just are what they are. You are confusing them with Slytherins. "Oh, you can trust me, I would never scam you!"

As for Primedice, well, I wouldn't put it past any site to do it; you can very easily say you have been scammed, but you can very easily be hacked too. it's just a matter of who you choose to trust. Essentially, you should not deposit to a site what you can't afford to lose, because these things have been known to happen.

[justnotgoodenough]

Your use of the word 'Stunningly' has reminded me of another word to replace it with ,'Cunningly'.

Nah, it was just a play on "stunna" 

I dont want to mix Bitfinex with PD story . Like i said txids are not evidence. Anyone could be owning multiple bitcoin address and just transferring back and forth to make it look like an evidence.

Again, they don't owe you any evidence. And I'm not sure what exactly you think happens in a hack? A hack doesn't leave some cryptographically verifiable evidence of a hack.

If you choose to believe it was a publicity stunt, then fine. But if you're going to call someone out for lying with zero evidence of your own, you just look like a douche (which I guess explains why you're using a new account).

I refuse to agree with 'they dont owe us any evidence'. They mentioned in their article not only once, multiple times that them giving out this higher payouts are living proof of how dedicated they are towards their integrity. I believe this whole article are a way of attracting High rollers who are already playing on other sites or prospective high rollers who, after reading this story will be convinced enough to bet higher.

And ..I have never had a bitcointalk account. I have always been an unregistered reader

Haha... Well take my word for it. Stunna and Edward would very very very much like you are correct and that they are hufflepuff they would have 2000+ btc more now .

Unfortunately that is not the case.

Hufflepuff was very real and he or she or them took huge chunk of bitcoins.

It was very expensive lesson for the Primedice team.

I find your words just ...so cheap and unconvincing.

[justnotgoodenough]

Your use of the word 'Stunningly' has reminded me of another word to replace it with ,'Cunningly'.

Nah, it was just a play on "stunna" 

I dont want to mix Bitfinex with PD story . Like i said txids are not evidence. Anyone could be owning multiple bitcoin address and just transferring back and forth to make it look like an evidence.

Again, they don't owe you any evidence. And I'm not sure what exactly you think happens in a hack? A hack doesn't leave some cryptographically verifiable evidence of a hack.

If you choose to believe it was a publicity stunt, then fine. But if you're going to call someone out for lying with zero evidence of your own, you just look like a douche (which I guess explains why you're using a new account).

I refuse to agree with 'they dont owe us any evidence'. They mentioned in their article not only once, multiple times that them giving out this higher payouts are living proof of how dedicated they are towards their integrity. I believe this whole article are a way of attracting High rollers who are already playing on other sites or prospective high rollers who, after reading this story will be convinced enough to bet higher.

And ..I have never had a bitcointalk account. I have always been an unregistered reader

Haha... Well take my word for it. Stunna and Edward would very very very much like you are correct and that they are hufflepuff they would have 2000+ btc more now .

Unfortunately that is not the case.

Hufflepuff was very real and he or she or them took huge chunk of bitcoins.

It was very expensive lesson for the Primedice team.

You are missing the point. I am not claiming that PD published this story in order to seize customers fund. Of course their business went well as usual even after this incident. However what they successfully accomplished is 'public trust' resulting more deposits and higher bets...

I understand all the affiliates and 'lucky player' who have made good money out of PD jumping on my shoulder for false accusation but people are just .. not so smart you know . So i dont really care.

[justnotgoodenough]

https://medium.com/@Stunna/breaking-the-house-63f1021a3e6d#.17ka35t80  Have you read this? I don't think anyone has ever disputed this. I wish you were right

Honestly I'm curious what type of "proof" you'd want beyond what was provided.



Feel free to contact him here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=376427

Of course i have read the story.. First of all Medium.com is not really The New York Times..

Secondly, the story is just so well written with so much details and sources and i find it very ironic that a casino who has lost a million dollar would care to put so much work into writing a story like this. (If a bank gets robbed we dont really see the bank publishing articles about the specific details of how the robber exploited their security)

Adding more to this.. i actually find the story partially praising the hacker's talent as so you call it, encouraging other hackers to keep doing the same

And yeah what particular proof can you exactly give to authenticate this story ? Blockchain is just too vague for that. But please dont tell me txids are your proof.

I believe the amount of publicity, wager and profit PD seems to claim the have achieved throughout the years, they should go public with their detailed earnings & proof of legal ownership of the site.
Additionally all the admins, developer and staffs who work for PD should be publicly verified and not hide under cheesy usernames like Micro & Stunna.

Hufflepluff story is just an example of how vague Primedice.com is behind a fancy article