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I am looking for the best GPU to earn me mining profits that I can sell after 1 year and maybe 3 months after.
Current situation is 2 semesters left to utilize the covered electric in a university dorm room. This spring coming up and the following fall. After next fall I would keep the GPU and mine with it in this extra computer for the rest of the winter while it is still cold but once everything warms up the electric grid for my room wouldn't handle my main computer, this extra computer, and an AC. Not to mention the electric is not cheap by me compared to many on here at 0.20 k/w and at the moment an R9 390 for example would be a net loss mining from home. Combine the heat and extra AC use and it is useless over the summer time at home.
Looking at used prices for previous generation GPU's and considering the power draw to hash rates, it looks like my options are to only get an R9 380 or R9 390 if the deal is very cheap and just not utilize them over the summer unless XMR or ETH profitability really jumps up big time. From there I can hope that people will be interested in a 2 generation old power guzzler down the road for resale.
The better option as it appears right now is to get a GTX 1060 3gb or an RX470. The GTX 1060 would be a good option for the summer if it functions just like the 1070 in my main computer where I can set the power target to 50% and when it is cold over the winter I can just crank it up and reduce the need for the electric heater. I do not know if the RX 470 functions the same like that. I would need some RX users to explain the card to me a little.
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coinscrow
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January 13, 2017, 11:49:57 PM |
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new amd polaris cards.  rx 470 / 480. NVIDIA is good if you can buy a little bit cheaper. |
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Golku
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January 14, 2017, 12:46:42 AM |
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Both cards are at the same range if you want to resell it.
You can get 2x RX 480 for the price of 1 GTX 1070
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PovertyByte (OP)
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January 14, 2017, 01:04:24 AM |
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How about the power draw. With the 1070 for example when I used to mine ETH I could set the power limit to 50 since the GPU clock had little importance and run the memory high so that would be efficient for the summer when I want to cut down electric and heat. Does AMD work similar for ETH? How about XMR?
ZEC does fair on NVidia
I know these new cards will be fine. It's the R9 300 series cards I question the resale value on and the GTX 900 series resale value one year from now. If the next series steps up as much as this current one has I feel like those past series will be so severely obsolete and crippled in resale value.
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January 14, 2017, 08:00:43 AM |
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Both cards are at the same range if you want to resell it.
You can get 2x RX 480 for the price of 1 GTX 1070
it hash also far less than one 1070, 260 sol against 440 plus double the consumption, plus you need more rig, which mean more components that add to the price which reduce the "2x480 = 1x1070" |
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January 14, 2017, 08:37:35 AM |
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For resale value RX480 or used 280/380 series cards from ebay probably
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PovertyByte (OP)
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January 14, 2017, 08:07:48 PM
Last edit: January 14, 2017, 08:45:38 PM by PovertyByte |
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Both cards are at the same range if you want to resell it.
You can get 2x RX 480 for the price of 1 GTX 1070
it hash also far less than one 1070, 260 sol against 440 plus double the consumption, plus you need more rig, which mean more components that add to the price which reduce the "2x480 = 1x1070" To be fair, the RX cards are better for ETH and XMR right now I am only getting a single card at the moment anyway there wont be any doubling on 470's, 480's, or 1060's It appears that the 1060 (3gb) gets 250 Sol/s where a 1070 gets 450 Sol/s. Meanwhile the price for the components right now divide pretty equally for an ROI. It comes down to which of those 2 cards will resell easier after or me simply getting the most hashes I can because I want to mine and trade to more BTC before it takes its actually for real moonshot For resale value RX480 or used 280/380 series cards from ebay probably
What makes you think the RX 480 will hold its value the best after 1 year, and what makes you think the R9 cards will hold their value after a another year? |
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January 14, 2017, 08:47:40 PM |
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Honestly, in terms of resale value within I year, I think nVidia is better. Why? There are more gamers than miners, GTX 1070/1080 are sort of the holly grail (not talking about the Titan...). I have only AMD cards on my miners, but I'd love to get a 1070/1080 for my gaming rig.
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January 14, 2017, 08:55:31 PM |
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Best reseller will be most expensive card today.
AMD traditionally can be sold very good on Ebay. Right now you can easily sell RX 480 8Gb for $200. Which is about 75% of what I paid in late August.
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January 14, 2017, 09:14:10 PM |
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One suggestion is to look for a parts dealer that you can:
1. Buy a used/new GPU from.
2. Can agree to take your GPU as a trade-in for a new or another used GPU.
While initial price for Step 1 might be a bit more than if you scout yourself, you can offset your 2nd GPU buy with a trade-in.
This way you always stay a step ahead with GPU upgrades, with marginal costs outlay for every new buy. Both you and dealer also know you're buying/selling same GPU so it's in dealer's interest and yours to be upfront about the state of the used item.
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January 14, 2017, 09:17:11 PM |
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Both cards are at the same range if you want to resell it.
You can get 2x RX 480 for the price of 1 GTX 1070
it hash also far less than one 1070, 260 sol against 440 plus double the consumption, plus you need more rig, which mean more components that add to the price which reduce the "2x480 = 1x1070" To be fair, the RX cards are better for ETH and XMR right now I am only getting a single card at the moment anyway there wont be any doubling on 470's, 480's, or 1060's It appears that the 1060 (3gb) gets 250 Sol/s where a 1070 gets 450 Sol/s. Meanwhile the price for the components right now divide pretty equally for an ROI. It comes down to which of those 2 cards will resell easier after or me simply getting the most hashes I can because I want to mine and trade to more BTC before it takes its actually for real moonshot For resale value RX480 or used 280/380 series cards from ebay probably
What makes you think the RX 480 will hold its value the best after 1 year, and what makes you think the R9 cards will hold their value after a another year? ethereum is trash at the moment, lbry and zcash are far better and nvidia is better there, also a 1070 with 8gb has a better resale value to gamers than a 480 to miners, unless you buy the 8gb version, but this will kill the price difference in favor of amd |
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ps_jb
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January 14, 2017, 09:27:14 PM |
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ethereum is trash at the moment, lbry and zcash are far better and nvidia is better there, also a 1070 with 8gb has a better resale value to gamers than a 480 to miners, unless you buy the 8gb version, but this will kill the price difference in favor of amd
Right now you can resell RX 480 8Gb for 75% of initial price. Ebay sold prices checked right now Actually never checked on NVidia - what are you numbers there? |
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January 14, 2017, 09:53:12 PM |
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RX 480 and GTX 1070, both would be have somewhat same resale value ratio in my opinion. However, if I think of resale value, I'd definitely go with the 8 GB version of both of these. Think about gamers, they need real room in memory.
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January 14, 2017, 11:21:00 PM |
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For sure AMD RX 470 & RX 480/GTX 1060 & 1070, because they're most newest video cards. In my country after 1 year you can sell it for 50$ bucks less  Buying another videocards like r9 280x or something sounds not nice, because they're old technology. Who like to buy old stuff? |
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PovertyByte (OP)
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January 14, 2017, 11:47:17 PM |
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I was considering the memory aspect when it came to this. The memory is the big concern I have the with GTX 1060 3gb version when it comes to resale. The card outperforms a GTX 970 meanwhile 970 users are already hitting 3gb+ of memory usage on their games.
I do see the 4gb limit being a deal breaker on the RX 480 models for gaming. RX 470 maybe not a problem at 4gb. I would speculate that the RX470 might be the best reseller out of the lower memory options and I see post saying that's the best XMR miner anyway. I'd have to be concerned with bios flashing and how that affects the resale value if I went AMD
This memory stuff does push me to play it safe with getting a GTX 1070 and keep it simple. The bios flashing and warranty coverage makes NVidia seem simpler right now also
People here who have been mining and flipping hardware can answer this better than me. Is it common for the used GPU market to be flooded with mining cards all the time?
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January 15, 2017, 12:22:15 AM |
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Rx 470/480 will give you more options on mining.
gtx 1070 is basically restricted to zcash for profits.
So with gtx 1070 you pay twice as much but can earn double on zcash while run at lower watts. With rx 470/480 you can mine anything, the big 3 eth/monero/zcash and earn 1/2 that gtx 1070 will on zcash but have more options so if zcash goes belly up then you won't be fucked.
Amd cards have good resale also, just sold a 7950 a few weeks ago for $100 and I payed $85 for it. The rx series will be no exception for a stong resale value for the next 2 years. Remember there are gamers that are fans of amd and nvidia, also people have all kinds of budgets regarding gpus. Do not believe anyone who tells you a 4gb card will never be able to resale...that is bullshit.
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January 15, 2017, 07:39:45 AM |
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Rx 470/480 will give you more options on mining.
gtx 1070 is basically restricted to zcash for profits.
So with gtx 1070 you pay twice as much but can earn double on zcash while run at lower watts. With rx 470/480 you can mine anything, the big 3 eth/monero/zcash and earn 1/2 that gtx 1070 will on zcash but have more options so if zcash goes belly up then you won't be fucked.
Amd cards have good resale also, just sold a 7950 a few weeks ago for $100 and I payed $85 for it. The rx series will be no exception for a stong resale value for the next 2 years. Remember there are gamers that are fans of amd and nvidia, also people have all kinds of budgets regarding gpus. Do not believe anyone who tells you a 4gb card will never be able to resale...that is bullshit.
Zclassic, Lbry, and other alternative algo, that mine alot faster on nvidia cards, and have exploding prices atm. gtx 1070 also 31.5MHS Ethereum & forks. 1060 is also doing good, and is @ 480 level even above on alot of algos for the same buying price, weaker in ETH though but ETH is kinda.... shacky atm. Plenty of options, initial investment higher for 1070 but pay off over the year with less money for electricity, cooling, better resale value too. 1060 3GB is also very well place in term of price & mining prowess. Also pascal cards barely begun to be optimized, all AMD's card are pretty much maxed out (maybe 10/15% coming with the eve of ASM optimization for some models) but that's nearly the end. Both solution have merits, but i bet on nvidia atm. Waiting for vega architecture to expand farm with some amds too, good to have versatility & options around  |
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January 15, 2017, 07:52:01 AM |
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Best reseller will be most expensive card today.
AMD traditionally can be sold very good on Ebay. Right now you can easily sell RX 480 8Gb for $200. Which is about 75% of what I paid in late August.
Except Titan and 1080 which will lose value very fast. 1070 probably also |
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January 15, 2017, 08:13:21 AM |
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ethereum is trash at the moment, lbry and zcash are far better and nvidia is better there, also a 1070 with 8gb has a better resale value to gamers than a 480 to miners, unless you buy the 8gb version, but this will kill the price difference in favor of amd
Right now you can resell RX 480 8Gb for 75% of initial price. Ebay sold prices checked right now Actually never checked on NVidia - what are you numbers there? zcash you can do 450, but i'm doing 416 with lowest consumption, on lbry you can do 300 but i'm doing 266 with lowest consumption i would push it at maximum if i had a better energy cost the 480 8gb cost more than $200, and it's not half of the 1070 price anymore |
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January 15, 2017, 01:35:40 PM |
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1070 for the current environment. May change once Vega hits as its price/impact right now is unknown and its impact on 1070 prices. The biggest factor is how LBRY price trends, and ZEC / ZCL price trending. AMD cards as highlighted, have a wider spread / adaptability compared to Nvidia in relation to mineable coins.
Hope that helps!
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