Bitcoin Forum
December 11, 2017, 01:13:53 AM *
News: Latest stable version of Bitcoin Core: 0.15.1  [Torrent].
 
   Home   Help Search Donate Login Register  
Pages: [1]
  Print  
Author Topic: Low fee Electrum 2.7.17  (Read 1488 times)
ArthurY
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 322


I love BTC


View Profile
January 16, 2017, 10:24:01 PM
 #1

I did some transactions, look attached picture. When I proceed first transaction I got notice what fees is too high. I updated without count well and sign two transactions with low fees. After it I did third transaction with normal fees when start read topics about low fees transactions. All my transactions just stop. So I did fourth transaction with high fees but all transactions is frozen. Anyone could help me?

I updated already wallet from old version to 2.77.17 after all transactions without remove old wallet... But installed new wallet in another folder

3 transactions gonna for this address

https://blockexplorer.com/address/3LqPWWcSWNp611ZxooCPiF3uoLpLAY6wgA

https://blockchain.info just relay one transaction

https://blockchain.info/tx/7031dc8996e755eea3d2e4dd157d4c6bcfdd707caf2223482f7577a260d0f860



Sophisticated Investor
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction. Advertise here.
1512954834
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1512954834

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1512954834
Reply with quote  #2

1512954834
Report to moderator
1512954834
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1512954834

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1512954834
Reply with quote  #2

1512954834
Report to moderator
1512954834
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1512954834

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1512954834
Reply with quote  #2

1512954834
Report to moderator
steven0021
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 630


Experientia docet


View Profile
January 16, 2017, 10:38:07 PM
 #2

Your first transaction doesn't meet blockchain.info's minimum relay fee which is 1.5 satoshi per byte. Your 3rd transaction have enough fee but it got be rejected by nodes that doesn't have the first transaction in their mempool because it is being used as input.

Edit:
It is also only using 0.0005/KB fee which is not that high. In fact it is lower than the recommended fee of 0.001/KB. Both transactions are also very big (13KB and 5KB). Your transactions will take a while to confirm or will never confirm and get dropped by the network.

                                                                       
    ▄▄███████▄▄                           ▄      ▄
   ██████████████▄                       ███    ███
  ███▀ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ▀████                     ███    ███
  █████████████▄ ▀███                    ███    ███   █▄ ▄▄
   ▀████▄  ▄▄███  ▀███                   ███    ███  ▄████
   ▄███████████   ▄███                  ███    ███  ▀▀███▀▀
   ███           ▄███         ▄▄▄▄      ███    ███     █    ▄▄  ▄▄▄▄
  ▄███     ▄▄▄▄█████        ▄█████▄    ▄██▀   ▄██▀    ███   █████████
  ███▄    ████████         ▄███▀▀███   ███    ███    ███▀   █████▀████
   ███     ▀▀█████▄      ▄█████▄ ███   ███    ███    ███    ████   ███
   ███         ▀███▄     ███▀███ ███  ███▀   ███▀    ███    ███▀   ███
   ███           ███▄    ███  ▀▀ ███  ███    ███    ███▀   ▄███    ███
   ▀██▄           ███    ███▄  ▄███   ███    ███    ███    ███    ███▀
    ███           ▀███▄   ████████    ███    ███    ███    ███    ███
    ▀██            ▀████   ▀████▀      ██     ██    ▀██    ▀█▀    ▀█▀


.
.
.
        ▄▄▀                ▀▄▄
     ▄ ▀▀                    ▀▀ ▄
   ▄ ▀▀▀                      ▀▀▀ ▄
  ▄▀▀▀                          ▀▀▀▄
 ▀█▄▄                            ▄▄█▀
▄█  ▄                            ▄  █▄
▀█ █▀                            ▀█ █▀
█▄  ▄                            ▄  ▄█
▀█ █                              █ █▀
█▄   █                          █   ▄█
 ██▄█▀                          ▀█▄██
  ▀▀  ▄█                      █▄  ▀▀
  ▀██▄ ▀  █▄              ▄█  ▀ ▄██▀
    ▀▀▀   ██  █▄      ▄█  ██   ▀▀▀
     ▀███▄▄▀  ███    ███  ▀▄▄███▀
        ▀▀▀▀▄▄▄▄▀    ▀▄▄▄▄▀▀▀▀
          ▀▀█████▀▀▀▀█████▀▀
.
.
Free Bitcoins
Chat Lottery & Games
Level Up System with Rewards
▄████████▄  ▄████████▄
██      ██  ██      ██
██      ██  ██      ██
██      ██  ██      ██
██      ██  ██      ██
 ████████    ████████
██      ██  ██      ██
██      ██  ██      ██
██      ██  ██      ██
██      ██  ██      ██
▀████████▀  ▀████████▀
.
ArthurY
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 322


I love BTC


View Profile
January 16, 2017, 10:50:48 PM
 #3

Your first transaction[1] doesn't meet blockchain.info's minimum relay fee which is 1.5 satoshi per byte. Your 3rd transaction[2] have enough fee but it got be rejected by nodes that doesn't have the first transaction in their mempool because it is being used as input.

Edit:
It is also only using 0.0005/KB fee which is not that high. In fact it is lower than the recommended fee of 0.001/KB. Both transactions are also very big (13KB and 5KB). Your transactions will take a while to confirm or will never confirm and get dropped by the network.

Thank you!
When I will be able to continue use my wallet? Or how I can solve this problem? I am looking to back use my wallet to proceed transactions... Have any solutions? I am not able to proceed child to parent payment. But if possible make double spent via Electrum?


Sophisticated Investor
steven0021
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 630


Experientia docet


View Profile
January 16, 2017, 11:16:20 PM
 #4

Thank you!
When I will be able to continue use my wallet? Or how I can solve this problem? I am looking to back use my wallet to proceed transactions... Have any solutions? I am not able to proceed child to parent payment. But if possible make double spent via Electrum?

Try switching server. With luck you'll find a server that doesn't have your transaction. You'll be able to create and broadcast another transaction then. Try again after 24 hours if you can't find a server that doesn't have your transaction.

BTW I just realized I was looking at the wrong transaction. The 0.0005/KB transaction isn't using the other as input and it got confirmed just now > https://blockchain.info/tx/0fe7a2c4993e49d598b16b0499045557425bfe33dcc8aa807f53af9769a1302f . Not sure now why blockchain.info wasn't showing it.

                                                                       
    ▄▄███████▄▄                           ▄      ▄
   ██████████████▄                       ███    ███
  ███▀ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ▀████                     ███    ███
  █████████████▄ ▀███                    ███    ███   █▄ ▄▄
   ▀████▄  ▄▄███  ▀███                   ███    ███  ▄████
   ▄███████████   ▄███                  ███    ███  ▀▀███▀▀
   ███           ▄███         ▄▄▄▄      ███    ███     █    ▄▄  ▄▄▄▄
  ▄███     ▄▄▄▄█████        ▄█████▄    ▄██▀   ▄██▀    ███   █████████
  ███▄    ████████         ▄███▀▀███   ███    ███    ███▀   █████▀████
   ███     ▀▀█████▄      ▄█████▄ ███   ███    ███    ███    ████   ███
   ███         ▀███▄     ███▀███ ███  ███▀   ███▀    ███    ███▀   ███
   ███           ███▄    ███  ▀▀ ███  ███    ███    ███▀   ▄███    ███
   ▀██▄           ███    ███▄  ▄███   ███    ███    ███    ███    ███▀
    ███           ▀███▄   ████████    ███    ███    ███    ███    ███
    ▀██            ▀████   ▀████▀      ██     ██    ▀██    ▀█▀    ▀█▀


.
.
.
        ▄▄▀                ▀▄▄
     ▄ ▀▀                    ▀▀ ▄
   ▄ ▀▀▀                      ▀▀▀ ▄
  ▄▀▀▀                          ▀▀▀▄
 ▀█▄▄                            ▄▄█▀
▄█  ▄                            ▄  █▄
▀█ █▀                            ▀█ █▀
█▄  ▄                            ▄  ▄█
▀█ █                              █ █▀
█▄   █                          █   ▄█
 ██▄█▀                          ▀█▄██
  ▀▀  ▄█                      █▄  ▀▀
  ▀██▄ ▀  █▄              ▄█  ▀ ▄██▀
    ▀▀▀   ██  █▄      ▄█  ██   ▀▀▀
     ▀███▄▄▀  ███    ███  ▀▄▄███▀
        ▀▀▀▀▄▄▄▄▀    ▀▄▄▄▄▀▀▀▀
          ▀▀█████▀▀▀▀█████▀▀
.
.
Free Bitcoins
Chat Lottery & Games
Level Up System with Rewards
▄████████▄  ▄████████▄
██      ██  ██      ██
██      ██  ██      ██
██      ██  ██      ██
██      ██  ██      ██
 ████████    ████████
██      ██  ██      ██
██      ██  ██      ██
██      ██  ██      ██
██      ██  ██      ██
▀████████▀  ▀████████▀
.
ArthurY
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 322


I love BTC


View Profile
January 16, 2017, 11:55:43 PM
 #5

Quote
Yeah, I was wonder about it too...
There are is high transaction fee Fees 0.00268394 BTC
But I was hoping they will take this transaction and will proceed others

Is there are ways to make double spending via Electrum?


Sophisticated Investor
steven0021
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 630


Experientia docet


View Profile
January 17, 2017, 12:40:21 AM
 #6

Quote
Yeah, I was wonder about it too...
There are is high transaction fee Fees 0.00268394 BTC
But I was hoping they will take this transaction and will proceed others

Is there are ways to make double spending via Electrum?

The first half of my post above is actually about how to double spend.

If you know your way around the wallet file, you can also try this, create&sign the transaction offline and copy the raw transaction (use the preview button), and push it to https://blockchain.info/pushtx .

                                                                       
    ▄▄███████▄▄                           ▄      ▄
   ██████████████▄                       ███    ███
  ███▀ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ▀████                     ███    ███
  █████████████▄ ▀███                    ███    ███   █▄ ▄▄
   ▀████▄  ▄▄███  ▀███                   ███    ███  ▄████
   ▄███████████   ▄███                  ███    ███  ▀▀███▀▀
   ███           ▄███         ▄▄▄▄      ███    ███     █    ▄▄  ▄▄▄▄
  ▄███     ▄▄▄▄█████        ▄█████▄    ▄██▀   ▄██▀    ███   █████████
  ███▄    ████████         ▄███▀▀███   ███    ███    ███▀   █████▀████
   ███     ▀▀█████▄      ▄█████▄ ███   ███    ███    ███    ████   ███
   ███         ▀███▄     ███▀███ ███  ███▀   ███▀    ███    ███▀   ███
   ███           ███▄    ███  ▀▀ ███  ███    ███    ███▀   ▄███    ███
   ▀██▄           ███    ███▄  ▄███   ███    ███    ███    ███    ███▀
    ███           ▀███▄   ████████    ███    ███    ███    ███    ███
    ▀██            ▀████   ▀████▀      ██     ██    ▀██    ▀█▀    ▀█▀


.
.
.
        ▄▄▀                ▀▄▄
     ▄ ▀▀                    ▀▀ ▄
   ▄ ▀▀▀                      ▀▀▀ ▄
  ▄▀▀▀                          ▀▀▀▄
 ▀█▄▄                            ▄▄█▀
▄█  ▄                            ▄  █▄
▀█ █▀                            ▀█ █▀
█▄  ▄                            ▄  ▄█
▀█ █                              █ █▀
█▄   █                          █   ▄█
 ██▄█▀                          ▀█▄██
  ▀▀  ▄█                      █▄  ▀▀
  ▀██▄ ▀  █▄              ▄█  ▀ ▄██▀
    ▀▀▀   ██  █▄      ▄█  ██   ▀▀▀
     ▀███▄▄▀  ███    ███  ▀▄▄███▀
        ▀▀▀▀▄▄▄▄▀    ▀▄▄▄▄▀▀▀▀
          ▀▀█████▀▀▀▀█████▀▀
.
.
Free Bitcoins
Chat Lottery & Games
Level Up System with Rewards
▄████████▄  ▄████████▄
██      ██  ██      ██
██      ██  ██      ██
██      ██  ██      ██
██      ██  ██      ██
 ████████    ████████
██      ██  ██      ██
██      ██  ██      ██
██      ██  ██      ██
██      ██  ██      ██
▀████████▀  ▀████████▀
.
ArthurY
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 322


I love BTC


View Profile
January 17, 2017, 09:55:11 AM
 #7

Thanks for help. They accepted my transactions without any cheats. I become respect Bitcoin network even more!! I think it will be useful thread for future members!


Sophisticated Investor
Pages: [1]
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Sponsored by , a Bitcoin-accepting VPN.
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!